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Asking for borrowed car back - family feud

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WishIWasSomewhereElse · 09/07/2020 09:05

Bit complicated, this is about mainly about my brother's big car, my emotions are raw- my sister has made huge mistakes with cars (who doesn't ?), my brother used to buy good cars, dad sorted everything out for sis. I don't drive, but my husband does (and dad has never been involved in any car buying decisions

Sister (nearly 50) had a couple of cars, both needed work doing, so she had dad's car. She was supposed to buy it from him, she hasn't yet.

Brother was unable to drive since he went into hospital a year ago - but I remember driving his very nice, big car (deliberately not naming cars here, as it's not important), to see dad in hospital, shopping for presents for family, and general other stuff - god, I have really STRONG memories of my brother driving me in this car, it was his pride and joy.

When my brother went into hospital is about when mum & dad gave my sister their car. They sometimes used my brother's pride and joy (called 'nice' car) as my dad has arthritis as well as having had a kidney removed, so it was easier for him to get into and out of.

It is also automatic - this is VERY important.

My sister needed to collect something and asked to borrow my brother's nice car (her car is the same make, but slightly smaller).

Mum and dad agreed, and lent it to her to collect the items.

Then brother went into hospital, so she and her partner (since lockdown), said they'd keep the car to take the car so they could take mum and dad to hospital (my sister's car was perfectly big enough for 5 people, let alone 4).

Yesterday my dad collected me in his other car, as he needed me to run some errands for him. It is low and manual. He has difficulty getting in and out of it. He crunched the gears several times, and stalled it a couple of times. He said he'd got used to automatics and was thinking of getting another?????

When I got back to their house, I had a quiet word with mum. She said she'd expected my brother's car back by now, and is worried it isn't going to be returned.

As my other thread shows, my brother died on Tuesday. He wouldn't have wanted my sister to have his car, he would have wanted dad to have it (he refused sister to borrow it when she asked him in the past). Even less, some new man he's never met using it. Especially when they have a perfectly serviceable car, and dad's other car is temperamental

I don't know how to broach this though. Mum confided in me that she fears that my sister (or maybe more likely her boyfriend) have no intention of returning it (after using for one specific reason, although I concede fate intervened in a cruel way.

Dad loved driving that car, it is not just that it's steeped in my brother, but it's easy for him to get in and out of (he needs hip replacements but cannot have them), and is automatic, so is easy to drive.

To give an idea of how my sister's boyfriend has taken ownership - last weekend - it was difficult for me to see my brother. In the end everyone agreed that my dh would drive me, dd, mum & dad to the hospital. However, our car is small, and we wouldn't fit in. So I Whatsapped my sister saying we'd need my brother's car. All hell broke loose. My sister phoned my dad shouting at him. She refused to speak to me.

In the end she said she drove us (dh & dd stayed at home), and told me I'd caused an argument with her boyfriend and he didn't want me in the car....I showed my mum the car. I wasn't abusive, accusatory or anything. I just asked for the car to accommodate us all. I met him for the first time and apologised for causing an argument between them, and he said he hoped I sorted my head out.

So I'm not sure what I'm asking here. My brother would want my dad (who he adored, I sat crying reading our texts about dad, I thought he'd be here, with me, looking after dad), he'd WANT dad, no EXPECT dad to have his car.

He would be FURIOUS that my sister's boyfriend had his pride and joy, whilst my sister had my dad's better car, whilst dad struggled with a low, manual car.

I should also add that my sister and her boyfriend have talked and both decided that dad shouldn't be driving.... dad's doctor is fine with him driving, but how convenient, maybe?

OP posts:
giantangryrooster · 09/07/2020 20:12

Op, I'm sorry for your loss. I saw your original thread, you already had problems with your sister at that point.

I don't know your family dynamics, is this how your family works normally? If not, I think you are angry instead of sad. We often exchange feeling sad for being angry.

As I see it you have these obtions

You wait a couple of months before addressing your issues with her, so everything is not as raw.

Or
You leave your parents and sister to solve (or not solve) the issue.

Or
You ask your dad, if he thinks it is fair to you that he allows your sister to get away with everything.

Even though you say you love your sister, I sense that a long break from her will do you good. She is more pro-active/domineering/outspoken than you, perhaps you should find your inner strength/bitch and speak your mind when things come up. Could be quite liberating Smile.

Hope this isn't too harsh, I hope you resolve things Thanks.

Belowwreck · 10/07/2020 11:52

So retax the crap car and exempt the good car?

OP you can't do this for your dad. If he refuses you're just going to have to accept he won't rock the boat.

loutypips · 10/07/2020 12:03

I'm so sorry for your loss. If your brother didn't leave a Will and if he wasn't married or had children then his belongings would go to your parents.
I'm afraid that the only way to get the car back is probably to report it as stolen, and tell your sister that you're going to do so.
Do you know if she has any paperwork for the car? If so she could register the car in her name

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WishIWasSomewhereElse · 10/07/2020 12:58

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StopGo · 10/07/2020 13:07

Is your DB's car on finance and/or a motability vehicle?
When my DSF died I had to contact motability and they collected the car as per the contract.
When DH died I contacted the finance company and surrendered the vehicle. Again they collected it.

FourDecades · 10/07/2020 13:08

If he's wanted by the police, why haven't you tipped them off?

FourDecades · 10/07/2020 13:12

Your parents were wrong to lend a car out that didn't belong to them. If they're not willing to sort it out then there is nothing you can do.

Concentrate on the thing's you can do... like telling the police where the boyfriend is and informing the relevant organisations about car tax and insurance

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