AD's off to Confession

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Started a new one.

Need to adhere to guidelines this time though.

@ISaySteadyOn

Really? Seems like there are 'fun police' . Perhaps they should all be issued hats with buckles on (puritans)

Definitely fun police. Wankers!

mrsfrumble so the knock-on effect is all those mums with toddlers having one less resource to aid their sanity, disadvantaged children not getting a bit of extra support with reading - and you may as well put in a pinny and chain yourself to the kitchen sink.

trapped 🤮 I had to do the M4 one day when Glastonbury finished. Stinking crusties everywhere at the service stations.

I’m planning to take the kids wild camping this summer and already worrying about poo facilities.

I'm not too sure which confession to go to.

My dad's family are Anglican and it isn't a big thing so far as I can tell unless you are a particularity niche Anglican.

My mum's family are Orthodox and confession is interestingly different to say the Roman Catholic one. Orthodox do it to Christ with a witness (who may be a priest) while RC do it with the priest who is 'in persona Christi'. Got that? If you have we'll be on Filioque next.

My other option is calling my mum. She's pretty good at hearing confession and I know we are done when she says 'get over yourself Lizzy'. She does it twice, the second time slowly and with emphasis.

@trappedsincesundaymorn 💐Lovely that you remember your mum fondly. Totally agree with scrapping the no hugging nonsense today.

Though on a personal level I'm really happy with no more hugging 😃 Partner and DCs excepted. My son tells me to greet people with finger guns, but I point out I'm a fifty year old woman.

@trappedsincesundaymorn

Thanks all.

I must admit the beach thread made me chuckle in an evil Bond villain type of way. If they think all that anti-social behaviour on 1 day is bad, then they ought to try living near Glastonbury....we get that every fucking year for 4 days. Not this year though, we've sent all the idiots to Bournemouth instead. We'll just enjoy our weekend of peace, litter free, traffic free and no garden shitters. I doubt any one from Bournemouth will give a fat rat's crack next year when we have it all back again.

Funny how people only seem bothered about antisocial behaviour of summer crowds this year isn’t it? A bit like how no one ever cared about staying at home to protect the vulnerable from flu or other seasonal nasties before and no one cared about strangers sadly dying before.

so the knock-on effect is all those mums with toddlers having one less resource to aid their sanity, disadvantaged children not getting a bit of extra support with reading - and you may as well put in a pinny and chain yourself to the kitchen sink

Yes. The only thing that kept me sane at home with a toddler was the couple of groups we went to, seeing friends, the few hours my dad provided childcare while I helped out at school, did a couple of hours freelance work or went to the gym. Now I can’t do any of that. And am no longer sane!

@IfYouCantSeeMyMirrors I'm already part of usforthem.

Why does it feel that people in wales aren't bothered about schools in the way Scottish parents were?

I'm working today but intend to do some serious emailing this weekend. Apparently Cherie Blair is very anti school closure as us Sarah vine (Michael goves wife)

Morning all. I’ve woken up with plantar fasciitis on the same side as I sprained my ankle on Monday, so my slight sulk has been upgraded to a mega-death sulk spiral. I was planning to run tomorrow...! Now sitting rolling a tennis ball under my foot and feeling thoroughly hacked off.

I thinker better to have kids running about on sand and splashing in the sea than cooped up indoors. Much better for them. and I agree the beach from above looked OK.

(with sun cream though mine got a bit pink last time)

Talking about TAATs, there was a comment on this beach threads ling the lines of "This evening there is a thread running condoning all of those beach goers'

Latest on schools- the gov has the clever idea of 'making all children face the front'

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/face-the-front-and-pay-attention-minister-orders-nation-s-children-mpq792shs

Funny how people only seem bothered about antisocial behaviour of summer crowds this year isn’t it? A bit like how no one ever cared about staying at home to protect the vulnerable from flu or other seasonal nasties before and no one cared about strangers sadly dying before.

Ever since the major pandemic that is social media, everything’s has become so fucking performative.

Bournemouth is like that every time sun shines on a Bank Holiday.

There’s probably nowhere safer from viruses than a beach on the day with highest UV levels that year.

That is unbelievable about schools in Wales.

I have to say living in Scotland I don’t follow Welsh politics but that guy who is FM seems to be an absolute fucking idiot.

Morning all.

 for you @trappedsincesundaymorn

Had good news for our holiday - villa company plan to go ahead with bookings as normal as long as air bridges are in place. And as Greece looks like one of the places that is up for it, I'm feeling a bit more optimistic that we might get away in August. Just need them to open the airports in Crete now...

Okay found you all again.

I knew councils were fucked with money.

Ours already was making sweaping cuts prior to this and they were hard to find and they already pay very little compared to rest of UK per pupil here.

I don't believe the two years with Wales and schools.

It would be hard to justify if rest of UK is back and the infection rate drops and number of seriously ill drop. I also don't think the college was planning that way either.

If it does go on two years then frankly we'd be looking at on-line schools and finding the money somehow or moving to England unless on-line provision started getting serious. I think we'd have to as DS would be starting GCSE in 12 months time and I've been seriously unimpressed with DD1 Y10 treatment and DD1 would be starting A-levels though as she'd be at a different educational establishment so may be better on-line experience I suppose.

The Welsh schools thing quite simply wont happen. Secondary schools not getting back to normal for 2 years, are they tripping?

@NothingIsWrong

twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1276385852512505856

This is the kind of thing we need to hear and focus on.

It is only a "could". But right now I will take that.

Today, I am being positive. I have to sit in a shitty long meeting today, but it does mean an hour of quiet time in an airconditioned car each way. I'll take that right now.

I don’t understand the obsession with antibodies either. It’s been clear for a very long time that they are not the whole story in terms of who has actually had the virus. Plus mathematical modelling by a number of different groups has been backing up the idea of a resistant part of the population for months.

I put up the UK schools link on fb also private messaged it to a lot of mums. Not one comment back I just realised. Gilead rules here

Why does it feel that people in wales aren't bothered about schools in the way Scottish parents were?

I think the education minster in Wales seemed at one point keen to get the kids back into school.

Plus the kids are getting back next week so there may well be an element of waiting to see how that goes.

Is this coming from the Welsh Government? - have I missed it I know they weren't sure about full time in September but they also weren't saying it wouldn't happen last time I saw Welsh educational minister talking.

Though there does seem to be a lot of emphasis on welsh medium schools where in many areas in South parents don't speak Welsh. Our are in English Medium school - most school here are that and there seems less poltical concern about those schools.

There's also a sizable minoirty that don't seem to care about education - tends to be in more deprived area of which Wales has many.

@BarkandCheese

Closing beaches is counterproductive, the reason people are going to the beaches in huge numbers is precisely because so many other things are closed. What they should be doing is putting out information for alternative beaches with parking so the crowds are disbursed over a wider area.

Such a gem of sensible thought in a world of sheer bonkers.

Living as far from a beach as is possible, I haven't been because of the potential for this. It's not the virus, that remains pretty low. It's the congestion and volume of people and I just don't have the localised knowledge of sonewhere quite that I can turn up to and park senisibly at.
When we went to a beauty spot as the restrictions eased, we went on our usual quiet time slot and warned the DCs that we would turn around if necessary. There were two cars in the car park. More awkward being 2-3 hours away.

I think the opening of pubs etc in a couple of weeks will go a long way in shifting the spread of people seeking leisure. It hadn't occured to me about the timing of the weather and Glastonbury, so there will be a lot of avaliable people who had their eyes upon that zone of the world anyway.

Ironically DM spent her war childhood by a closed-up, landmined beach. We went down a couple of years ago for her uncle's memorial and by the pier she told me about the strawberry basket. Someone dropped it above the high tide line, and she spent her childhood regularly seeing the basket disintegrate as no one could go and remove it.

Re the beach situation - Bournemouth yesterday looked like a vision of hell but it’s always like that on a Bank holiday heat wave which is effectively what this is - people can’t work, children banned from school, everything else shut. It was incredibly badly managed by the LA - honestly why didn’t they expect it?

I’m starting to get more worried about violence now - if they keep threatening to close up again it’s going to explode.

You couldn’t have paid me to go the the beach & Bournemouth always attracts an odd/rough element (we’ve had some brilliant days there but only midweek in term time ... even the we’ve seen ‘trouble’ fights etc) ... again not because of the virus transmission. Even WHO aren’t concerned about outdoor transmission (especially in blazing sun!)

“Dr David Nabarro said he was not "really concerned" by images of crowds on beaches, but feared what was going on "out of sight".

He told the Today programme: "I don't personally get really concerned when I see people outside in the open, because as you have just said, transmission is less likely to occur there.”

The risk is from all the groups hanging around/getting drunk/fighting plus the risk to people working in that environment. I’d still be more worried about standing on broken glass/getting mugged/the shit lying around etc 🤮

People NEED to be working - we have so much more of this to come and it will dangerous when the job losses really bite.

@BarkandCheese exactly ... people need to calm the fuck now & start dealing with this sensibly. “They” created this situation by locking up everyone - going hyper-authoritarian now would be insane & dangerous.

Good article here about joblessness and the costs of lockdown being ignored by some

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/millions-are-jobless-but-where-are-the-protests-lkppqnvx5

I listed to the councillor from Bournemouth being interviewed - they did have the toilets open but long queues menat soem people were going elsewhere.

It also seem to be a different crowd with poorer behvaior than they usually get.

Having said that I do wonder if it's people going loopy with freedom.

Five years we've lived here never had a neighbour issue or noise issue.

Yesterday party started few doors down - heard their nearer neigbours asking them to turn music down and not play songs with loud swearing as they had young kids - it was turned up and up and they were drunk - it was eventually turned down - I think threats were made to call police - but we had loud drunks in garden till late.

We were far enough away that indoor with windows closed couldn't hear - but never had anything like that before.