Is There Anyone Else That Wont Be Celebrating Tonight?

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There is a lockdown party over the road ... think loud music , whoops , cheering etc . People obviously very happy and i don't begrudge them that at all.

Sadly we have little to celebrate as lockdown has been very traumatic for us , with my mum becoming hospitalised with pneumonia. She then contracted Covid in hospital which was terrifying ( 2 months in hospital) and now she needs cancer treatment which is being delayed because of Covid . Again extremely frightening and my mind is preoccupied with this every minute of the day .

We have also , and will continue to suffer financially.

Is there anyone else that doesn't feel part of the excitement tonight ?

People are fucking stupid. Sure, you might intend for it to be "socially distanced" (or pretend that's what you intend), but two or three glasses of beer/wine/whatever apiece and that's all out the window.

Agreed. And some of us still can't see members of our family. But hey,that's ok, I can go to the pub and stand a metre away from people who forget all about social distancing.

@Bl3ss3dm0m yes woeful and inadequate support for those who cannot work due to illness is a travesty, but if the economy doesn't get moving again, where do you think at least some of the cuts will come from? I'll give a clue, they've had their eye on PIP for a while. Yes family is hard, we have all been suffering, but there's the ideal scenarios and then the reality.

Well a very excited friend rang to say she had booked eye checks, dentist and a nail bar ( thought that was not included in openings). She is going on buses and takes the relaxation of rules as signifying that it is all over. Now so far her regular visits are in the garden but now the two house bubbles will mean she could come into the house. She is a lot younger than me and a widow. We are elderly and vulnerable so I am taking everything really cautiously. The way I see it, no matter what precautions we take visitors who happily don’t provide a weak link in any precautions we take. Of course life and the economy must go on and if younger and at work I would continue to carry on as near normal as possible but we can’t and don’t have to do it.

@Dollywilde Wed 24-Jun-20 07:20:52

If you don’t want to go back to the pub, don’t go back to the pub. Personally I’ve no skin in this game, as I’m 8 months pregnant so a) I’m not drinking in any event and b) for me, the risk isn’t worth it and I’ll be staying home. But don’t assume that all the people who are going back are selfish idiots. They’re making their own risk-based decisions, just like you are, it’s just that their risk profile is different and as a result the conclusion they’ve come to is different.

Well said. That is such an articulate and reasoned response. Although partying is OTT the risk to any young healthy individual at the moment is minimal.

As things were many people were risk assessing and making their own mind up. Others were just making their own mind up. Both sets getting on with their lives and other people choosing to follow the rules were fucked and wouldn't even visit vulnerable relatives and friends.

If I was elderly (and I'm not that far off) I would much rather see family and friends and have a bit of a life however short than be locked up like Rapunzel and live another 10 years.
I am a retired nurse and know plenty of nurses on the front line, none of whom believe the lockdown carrying on is doing any good. Many have also little to do as their hospitals have less people in ITU than normal as they are not getting the post op patients.

@Bluesheep8 totally agree.

Sick of hearing about pubs . Many people are suffering as the result of covid ... I couldn't care less about pubs.

@Dollywilde another one !!

I have not said anywhere that i wanted lockdown to continue .
The opening post is asking if there is anyone else that does not feel they have anything to celebrate as the lockdown is relaxed . Not a debate on whether it should have continued.

@Inkpaperstars you are so kind thankyou

@MintyCedric @PMTRex @PopsicleHustler people that understand the thread ... thankyou .

@Tillygetsit Thankyou

@MintyCedric hugs for you lovely. Youre not on your own .

I agree withFlobut are we only allowed to post on the thread if we want to share negativity? Also think that from a lot of threads and things I've read on social media, a LOT of people are desperate for more deaths and infection to increase to prove 'they were right'.

No one is desperate for more deaths and infection. This has got to be THE most ridiculous statement I've read in a long time.

Trying to police a thread is ridiculous.

We all go through stages where other people’s happiness makes it difficult for us. The difference with COVID is that we’ve all been in the same position, but in normal circumstances someone might go through serious illness and the family may experience difficulty and other people would still be going about their normal lives. Would people expect them not to because they had nothing to be happy about?

The common denominator here is COVID. Take that away and nothing changes for the people who are going through it.

I won’t be going anywhere any time soon as am at risk but other people are entitled to feel happy that we are coming out of this lockdown, even if it’s a cautious thing.

It amazes me how irritated people are by this whole lockdown situation when actually, they don’t have to change their ways if they don’t want to. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you go to the pub.

No one's 'policing' anything. The thread title is "is there anyone else who won't be celebrating tonight?"

The thread is not about what you think of the relaxing of the lockdown.. but asking for those who dont feel they have anything to celebrate because the measures have been lifted.

It is ok for people's actions to be policed
by the government for safety during a pandemic, and people should stick to the rules.

What I have found disturbing and frankly offensive during the pandemic have been the constant attempts to police people's feelings.

So you are allowed not to feel like celebrating, OP, and it's quite understandable in your situation. But people are also allowed to feel celebratory about whatever they like. They are allowed to be happy about pubs, schools (partially) or shops being open. They are allowed to enjoy themselves during lockdown. As long as they abide by the rules, it's not up to anyone else to say what people should or shouldn't allowed to be happy about.

@lazylinguist did you actually read my opening post ???

I said i dont begrudge anyone at all .

Some people on here just seem desperate to pounce on others when they haven't taken the time to comprehend what the thread is about.

It amazes me how irritated people are by this whole lockdown situation when actually, they don’t have to change their ways if they don’t want to. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you go to the pub.
This.

I’m baffled why people would ‘celebrate’ in any other way than turning to their partner/child/whoever and saying “well that’s good then”. So no, I didn’t celebrate

Personally I’m going to continue to isolate as much as possible. But then we aren’t that social anyway.

@lazylinguist did you actually read my opening post ???

Yes. You keep asking people that. You seem to have failed to understand that threads develop into a discussion. Not every post has to directly and solely answer to the original post.

Your posts have expressed and invited opinions about whether people feel there's anything to celebrate. My post was pointing out that there is a lot of judgment at the moment about how people should feel about the virus, about lockdown, about the relaxing of lockdown, about the lockdown behaviour of their friends and neighbours and the public in general. I therefore think my post was relevant to the discussion going on in this thread. You can disagree with that if you like, but you can't choose what people post on a thread. Hth.

There is a lockdown party over the road ... think loud music , whoops , cheering etc . People obviously very happy and i don't begrudge them that at all. Clearly that's not true.

I thought it was important for people to catch it, so we gained herd immunity.
I've seen lots of groups of mummies with their children picnicking in the park, I came back, no social distancing at all, let alone one metre. If they are daft enough they can be the guinea pigs, just hope their kids are ok.
So it's good, the more people catch it the better for us who aren't taking risks.
Crack on, I say.

I am shielding and will continue to be very careful. I won't be going to pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc or shopping (not that I am a fan anyway) in person. I get lockdown has to end sometime but I don't trust this government at all.

People of course are welcome to make their own risk assessments, but I also won't be mixing with people who do all of the above. Luckily my DH feels the same way as he has seen how unwell I get with the mildest things since I started immune suppressants. My family feel the same way and his live too far away for us to be visiting on public transport any time soon.

Herd immunity isn't guaranteed with corona virus', normally only lasts for a short amount of time

I’ll be there for the doors opening on the 4th. Can’t wait.

I'm uncomfortable with it. I think it is too soon.