Thread 3 shielding chat

[AuntieSocia1]

I hope this unimaginative thread title doesn't put off all the amazing posters from this group!

As we transition into this new phase things could get interesting....

Waves to lurkers

That's true @pepple21uk I am just finishing my PGCE so this is a new job I am going to in September. I feel bad for messing them around but not a lot can be done I guess. It's a bit daunting isn't it? I am glad they have done the stepped approach and realised the affect it will have had on people's mental health.

Fingers crossed for August then I guess! I have a hospital appt in August too so will be talking to my consultant as well.

I'm in Scotland so this doesnt apply, but it sounds like things will be safer. I mean, let's be honest, we're still screwed if we catch it. But at least we are less likely to get it now.

Pebble21, yes, we’ve done exactly the same re Autumn 1. Working in a school is very very different to a COVID secure office or whatever. We will have to wait and see and risk assess it ourselves with advice from my GP and consultant.

This forming a support bubble with one other household from 6th July... is that allowed inside their/your house (as for those single people shielding now) or still has to be outside?
I realise the 6 people thing is only outside.

No it’s inside. She said they could stay overnight.

Thanks rugbymummy - well that certainly helps me with my quandry about seeing shielding parents which I wrote about earlier today!

This meeting 6 people thing - will that be at 2m or at 1m if it’s announced tomorrow?
I’ve already had ‘yay you can come out for drinks’ messages. That’s going to be a whole other issue.

I have had enough. I started off resigned to shielding until there was a vaccine but my terror level has reduced massively and my cabin fever is taking over.
I have different conditions so not sure which triggered the shielding letter. I was on cancer antibody treatment but that's finished. I'm on Sulphasalazine for RA which on it's own isn't bad enough and I have a lung condition.
I plan to see my GP as soon as the next lot of advice comes out.
I am already taking small steps "out".

rugbymummy Jennie Harries just said they could have said ‘jump back into work tomorrow’ based on the science?? WTF?? People may be fearful but they need to push themselves a bit??? What’s she on??

Totally agree! The implication is those shielding are just over cautious wimps who need to 'man up' and get back to work, instead of following what has been until now the Government guidance, which is based on the advice of experts, including her!

So it's fine to return to work if it's covid safe, what do you do if you work in lab testing covid samples?
I may have to ask for risk assessments from occupational health or be deployed in another department... Today's briefing has left me with another set of questions

@Idroppedthescrewinthetuna
I think you are right the wording is clearer than the briefing
“ From 6 July, in line with the wider guidance for single people in the general population, those shielding may form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. This means single adults or single parents who are shielding can create a ‘support bubble’ with any household, and households with a shielded person in it can also form a ‘support bubble’ with any single person (or single adult with children).”
However as primary carer the choice is yours, if it was my dd I would not send her before August.

So if you work in an environment were you are unable to social distance, does that mean you can still be furloughed?

He wasn't very clear on what 'financial support' will still be in place.

I think they are giving us a few month pass before we are back in for the winter!

I missed the briefing (I was digging up potatoes ).

I'm not sure I'm going to be taking up the support bubble option of having someone indoors - the only friend who lives near me I could bubble up with isn't great with distancing etc and I don't really think I'd feel safe.

I'm worried about going back to customer facing job. It won't be possible to have screens up

That's it really isn't it...the six degrees of separation thing.

You can bubble with a single person but how can you be sure they haven't been living it up (or even hanging around the shops)? You can't. You can only control your own actions and I still feel as though I need a bit more control.

@finished31

So if you work in an environment were you are unable to social distance, does that mean you can still be furloughed?

He wasn't very clear on what 'financial support' will still be in place.

I think they are giving us a few month pass before we are back in for the winter!

You can still be furloughed by the sounds of it, but SSP will end.

Hi everyone. I was just on the main Facebook shielding group reacting to this, but you chaps are more my tribe really

My question is - what about those of us on the shielding list with school-age children? If my kids go back to school in September, aren't they still more likely to bring it home to me?

I'm really glad they addressed the issue of shielded children but my children are not clinically vulnerable, yet are having to act as though they are. I know it tells you to stay away from family members, but try telling my 9yo that she can't hug me.

I'm still processing, and am partly pleased, but I still have a lot of questions.

Good interview in sky news now.

*on

We are in the same position, I’m really not sure what will happen in September and that’s quite scary.

I am pleased but it's tinged with slight nervousness about safety. Seeing up to 6 people is wonderful. Not sure I'm waiting til 6th july for that, seems a bit arbitrary - anyone else?

Bit worried about the 'pausing' language...

Welsh Government have already released a statement stressing that the changes only apply in England and that shielding will continue as outlined in the CMO's last letter for us until mid August.

I went for a lovely walk with my DC this afternoon, on a near deserted beach. I really miss them now.

Shops reopened here today, even though cases have been on the rise for a couple of weeks (double the number of cases so far in June so far as there were in the whole of May). I'm not sure how much longer I'll feel safe going out for a walk tbh.

@ToothFairyNemesis I agree, I have made the decision. She is staying here until August. Lots of tears from DD at the moment as I have explained to her my reasons. She agrees but is sad as although he is an idiot (there are far more stronger words I would like to use) he is her dad and she does love him.

Good news, don't think I can wait until July 6th to form my bubble tho !
Very nervous abut going to shops, will try small shops first and keep my priority delivery slot.
Very small cautious steps to begin with, I really have very little self confidence now.

Maybe the delay in dates is to allow time to see the effects of the last set of opening up on R. However I don’t think it accounts for human nature as it just seems arbitrary.