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AuntieSocia1 · 19/06/2020 17:39

I hope this unimaginative thread title doesn't put off all the amazing posters from this group!

As we transition into this new phase things could get interesting....

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Egghead68 · 30/08/2020 08:41

Flexisaver is a 4-hour slot for £3 in my area. You don’t have to sign up for it. The priority slots are 6 hours and more expensive (£5.50) which seems unfair to me. Normal 1-hour slots are £5.50.

Egghead68 · 30/08/2020 08:41

P.s. I know this is a first-world problem!

Outnumberedwoman · 01/09/2020 03:51

Hi everyone. Sorry I havent been on recently. Mental health not been good. Thanks for thinking of me @MarieVanGoethem . I found out last week that dc2 has been given a placement in the special school that we wanted for him. We are very pleased and ot is a huge weight off our minds. Was a mad dash to go and get uniform sorted then though (and expensive!!) as he starts this week.

DC1 started back to school last monday and has his first week over him. He was so excited to see his friends but wasnt happy about the bubble system as he can't see his friends in the other class. Also staying at his own desk the whole time and no toys was not well received. Lunch and break are all eaten in the classroom so the kids are in the one room the whole day which I would hate I have to admit.

Unfortunately after just 5 days DC1 has today started displaying symptoms. His temp is rocketing, he has a headache and a runny nose, is coughing and chesty and inhalers arent helping. And he has developed a rash. Phoned doctor who just advised to manage the temperature and book a test. Test is at lunch time tomorrow / today. I havent slept i am so worried. And to be honest i am so bloody angry. He has been back 5 days and here we are. Dc2 now cant start at special school, dc1 was just getting used to being back and was starting to settle and its all been for nothing as we will have to start again and help get him over his worries and i am terrified covid is in the house and im going to get it.

Teaistheanswer · 01/09/2020 07:11

Oh @Outnumberedwomanim I am so sorry to hear that DC1 is showing symptoms. I hope once the test is done you get the results back quickly and that they show it's not covid.

Outnumberedwoman · 01/09/2020 17:03

@Teaistheanswer thank you for your kind words. Had the test and now its just a waiting game for the results. Called both the kids schools this morning. Dc1 school were lovely and said not to rush him back even if test is negative. They had several phone calls this morning. Dc2 school who he hasnt even officially started with yet were fab. Teacher was so kind. Apparently after 1 week back they had lots of phonecalls this morning from staff and parents so it seems the opening of schools has triggered a spike as I feared it would. So despite all the social distancing and constant hand washing rhe kids and staff are still getting sick. Even if its not covid this time it just proves that bugs will spread no matter what. It doesnt bode well if covid does get into the school.

Have just had family in the phone and when they asked how I was feeling i told the truth. Im extremely anxious and just really angry. Their reply was well the children need to get back into school. Its been all over the news today. I am not debating the benefits of schooling. I just want it done safely. Throwing them all in a classroom together and hoping for the best is not going to work and I am more convinced of that than ever now.

Egghead68 · 01/09/2020 17:42

I’m so sorry about your son @Outnumberedwoman. I really hope it’s not Covid. Even if it isn’t it shows that the school’s hygiene measures aren’t working to stop infections.

WhatamessIgotinto · 01/09/2020 17:49

@Outnumberedwoman My neice has a high temp/cough - been back at school since 22nd August. Her result was negative thank goodness and there are loads of kids off now with sore throats and colds which I suppose is to be expected after having so little exposure to bugs etc for so many months.

I've been shielding since March and back to work on Thursday (teacher). I can't deny I'm apprehensive.

Outnumberedwoman · 01/09/2020 18:06

@Egghead68 thanks. The school have been pretty good actually. They know I was shielding so my child had his own separate risk assessment from the others. The school have each class going in separate entrances. Temps are checked as they go in. Hands are sanitized all through the day. They stay at their own desk all day even eating lunch there. In the playground each class has a zone marked out so they dont burst their bubbles. Touch points including desks are wiped down all through the day.

I think the bottom line is full time school is not going to work. Part time with remote learning would have been much better to maintain better social distancing. Cramming 32 bodies into a classroom isnt going to work. They have tried it. Now they need to try something else. If bugs are still spreading despite all the above measures then something needs to change. When I said this before I was shouted down and told not to be so dramatic and stop scaremongering. I am sick of being told that i need to lighten up.

Teaistheanswer · 01/09/2020 18:09

@whatamessigotinto what age group are you with? I'm back in class with infants on Friday. Transition day with half morning/afternoon then whole 30 from Monday. Trying really hard not to get anxious Confused

WhatamessIgotinto · 01/09/2020 19:06

I'm in a middle school 9 - 13 year olds so I'm hoping that because they're not tiny they have a bit of an understanding of the situation. V hard with the little ones.

Egghead68 · 01/09/2020 20:15

If bugs are still spreading despite all the above measures then something needs to change

I agree

Outnumberedwoman · 01/09/2020 21:06

On our local news tonight the education minister admitted they expect kids to get sick. There will be spikes and large numbers of children will get sick. This is the same minister who for the last month has been bleating to anyone who will listen (and even those who dont want to) that schools are perfectly safe. That we have no need to fear about sending them back in because you know the science says it is safe.

Thats some u turn!

Egghead68 · 01/09/2020 21:12

No mention of what shielding parents are supposed to do if their child gets Covid, I bet Sad

Outnumberedwoman · 01/09/2020 22:18

No @Egghead68 no mention of shielding but didnt you know now that shielding has paused we are not at risk anymore.. we don't need to worry. The politicians keep saying this so it must be true. Basically the last 6 months have been forgotten.

I promise im not bitter Hmm

Babysharkdoodoodood · 01/09/2020 22:43

Well yesterday after my trip to the chemist, I woke up with a streaming cold and cough. Still got a sore throat and all bunged up. From 5 minutes with a mask on. One other customer in there buying covonia for a cough. Sigh.

Shows how little masks help.

Outnumberedwoman · 01/09/2020 23:30

@Babysharkdoodoodood I'm sorry to hear you are struggling again. That's the last thing you needed..

Unfortunately this is going to become more and more common i fear. Especially as the weather turns colder and people are more indoors. My biggest fear is that shielding isnt paused but abandoned. They cant have lots of people shielding and not have kids home learning and people working from home. And as far as I can see its all about the economy and making sure we are all out spending money at the minute. At this rate even if we have to go back to lockdown they would probably close the supermarkets before schools just to shut up the shouters and so they can save face by keeping plying the line that schools are safe.

Still no results here. Now DH has lost his sense of taste and is feeling miserable with a fever and I have developed a very annoying cough. Not looking good. Just waiting for the asthma to kick up a notch now. Will be brilliant fun!

MarieVanGoethem · 02/09/2020 02:30

Oh @Outnumberedwoman I really wish I could give you a hug. I’m not one for going about randomly hugging people, but it’s just so fecking unfair you’ve got through all this & your DC2 got his space at the right school for him (am honestly so pleased for all of you) & now you’ve a poorly wee one despite the school trying so hard AND your DH not well. If you’d like it or just not mind it I’ll remember all of you in my prayers (I think it’s a bit rude to go around praying for people specifically when they might not like it Blush ) - I really REALLY hope all of you come through this ok. Your DC1 isn’t likely to worry himself about “I’ve made mammy* ill” if it ends up being Covid is he? Ach. It’s just all so unnecessary. We’ve all worried about this & just been told that it’ll be grand & basically there’s no need to fuss - & of course exactly what we’ve foreseen has happened & we none of us wanted to be right about this stuff but yet again people in the extremely high risk category are being treated as if it’s totally acceptable their lives be collateral damage. And Weirdy Ones who for whatever mad reason WANT to be extremely high risk instead of “just” high risk are swanning about the place bleating on about how they’re being put at terrible risk by other people while they go & get on with doing whatever (making up ridiculous rules about how they’re totally still shielding though) & hearing your news makes me even angrier about their stupid selfish nonsense because you’re facing something so scary after ACTUALLY coming out of shielding & making the hard choice to send your DC to school because you’re constantly (like so many posters on here) thinking about what’s best for your children & how to achieve that. I was cross enough reading it when it was just contrasted with me still being stuck going nowhere but the hospital (& ofc when the pause started I got to start going out to the bins as long as I wear a mask; distance properly should I see anyone while I’m outside; & wash thoroughly when I get back inside) but now I’m DANCING (sadly not in the fun & good-for-me way...) Angry
Trying to regain my composure, if it helps at all, schools for children with special needs seem to be doing better with managing things safely - they’ve smaller class sizes to start with & because lots cater to children with physical disabilities they’ve staff used to wearing PPE etc... would your DC2 be expected to be on a reduced timetable? My niece’s school plans to continue with that for the foreseeable future as the children they teach are so vulnerable (but mostly can’t be placed in the extremely vulnerable category even where they’ve conditions so rare no one knows what Covid will mean, but any illness is very serious for them & their parents have been told they’d not be placed on a ventilator if they caught it & one we’re clinically necessary [& yes, yes I am incredibly angry about that; & I hate that I’m so far from my wee sister - I’m never keen on the distance, but this year has been particularly awful]).
I will hope for you all that somehow SOMEHOW it isn’t Covid but just a Random Lurgy. Have you people close by who can help if you & your DH are both ill? Or even just people who can check in with you to see if you’re needing to go to hospital? (Again, wishing I could give you a hug. Though just now a virtual one is the safest so.) Please take good care of yourself. Flowers

@WhatamessIgotinto & @Teaistheanswer - I really hope that going back to work goes well for both of you. Have you good support from your respective SLTs? Have your Unions been any use with this? UCU have been pretty active warning that going back to in-person teaching at unis is Not A Plan but I wasn’t sure if any of the teachers’ unions had been providing support for shielders. Have to admit I’m hoping that between the practical issues, UCU’s stance, & St Andrew’s having just done a complete volte face & announced they’ll be doing everything (bar labs) online this semester the institution where my brother works will abandon their current plans for face to face teaching & put everything online.

@Babysharkdoodoodood
Oh pet. I don’t think it’s just the insomnia & pain driving my apparent sudden hugging free-for-all. I’m so sorry. You really have been 2020-ed, haven’t you? I hope you’re better soon.

@Egghead68
Tesco are exceptionally naughty non-goldfish. And should be ashamed of themselves for wringing every last penny they can out of people who’ve no choice but to shop with them the greedy dungbeetles that they are. Attitude of them on Twitter, if you’ve seen it, is very much that people shielding should be GRATEFUL to Tesco for said supermarket having so nobly not let them starve to death; & hiking the price is totally reasonable, because that’s totally what it costs to pick, pack & deliver a single shop. Lying greedy swine happily wringing money out of people with no choice of where to shop just now - & while I know lots of shielders are working, lots of us scrabble by on disability benefits. Which, naturally, were not raised when the others were early in the pandemic. Because of that well-known thing where being disabled means things cost less. Waft my Freedom Pass at people & I get discounts in all the big shops. Or sadly not; & as other people may have noticed, basics ranges became conspicuous by their absence from online supermarkets as well as EVERYTHING going up in price. Even own-brand stuff became much harder to get. And my budget is such that I compare the cost of loo roll per sheet to ensure I get the best deal. Boo Tesco, frankly. Boo, boo, & thrice boo.

As for me, I’m in a wee bit of a sorry state just now (even my glorious Gryffindor bed linen on clean tonight in celebration of the new year at Hogwarts cannot, for some reason, magically fix this Hmm ) & think it’s probably a good thing I’ve a cardiology appointment (albeit a phone one) next week (or possibly the week after... soon, anyway!) as things seem to be misbehaving a wee bit. Which could be down to all sorts of things, but I’d quite like the symptoms I’m having to stop. Am still stuck frantically chasing a range of things which really isn’t helping any either. Gah. So yes, feeling grotty (not going to expand whinge on that as is v dull & self-indulgent) & fear it is making me grumpsome. Luckily my cats care not; & have upped the snuggling ante - on Sunday my black cat snuggled with me for about 10 hours straight, only taking a break when my ginger cat came to take over. And he did just take a loo (well, litter tray!) break & have a wee drink of water before coming back to resnuggle. It’s a job he takes Very Seriously. (Though - apologies to whinge again - not wanting to leave my side at all is usually a sign I’m Really Very Extra Not Well. My cats are serious snuggleupapusses, but when they’ll not let me out of their sight at all... mmmph...)

  • Apologies if you’re mummy or indeed anything else - my family are about a 50/50 split on the choice of vowel so I went with alphabetical order as I couldn’t remember you having mentioned anywhere what your DC call you.
SistemaAddict · 02/09/2020 06:22

Thanks for all. I'm just up to get ready to take ds to school and I'm very anxious. Like I might turn round half way and head home anxious. If people are coughing or looking peaky at the school gate then I'm not going to want to send him in. I'm trying to be brave for him but I'm really scared. I don't think those who haven't been shielded have any idea what it's been like for us. Normal lives for them for a long time now but for us it's been less than a month of being out and about more and now my dc are suddenly going to be mixing with 700 people between them. I feel sick.

MarieVanGoethem · 02/09/2020 07:41

Oh @Bercows Flowers

Good luck, I hope it all goes ok. Have you been able to get any extra support from the school? Do you think they’d be any use?

Will cross my fingers & hold my thumbs that it all goes smoothly.

(Sorry, I’ve not slept, I’m not up to making any kind of sense, but I didn’t want not to reply when you’re sounding so worried.)

SistemaAddict · 02/09/2020 09:57

Thank you. The distancing was interesting as you could distance going in as long as you were on of the first there but on the way out you have to pass the queue of people on the steps. The path up to school is very narrow too so it wasn't possible there either. Ds was quite happy to be back but I found it very stressful.

MarieVanGoethem · 02/09/2020 10:24

I’m glad that you were able to get your DS in safely: that’s a huge achievement & great for both of you.

Given the circumstances, do you think the school might let you drop your DS off early so you’re not having to get a bit cosy with half the school & their parents? Or failing that (if you’re able/have time, obviously!) let you be first in; wait somewhere away from everyone else while the masses stream in; & then be last out to spare you trying to dance distantly past people on a narrow path? Or is your DS old/sensible enough to do just that last bit of the walk by himself? (Sorry, still had no sleep, apologies if missing Blindingly Obvious things you’ve said seventy times on thread.)

SistemaAddict · 02/09/2020 11:16

I've told both schools that my gp has said to be strict on distancing at school so I hope they will come up with something.

Egghead68 · 02/09/2020 18:14

Flowers @MarieVanGoethem @Bercows and @Babysharkdoodoodood.

SistemaAddict · 02/09/2020 18:36

Thank you. No distancing possible so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. They both had a great day which is good but I don't feel reassured at all.

Teaistheanswer · 03/09/2020 10:02

Morning all Smile
It's my last day before returning to school so trying to keep busy and stop my mind racing.
Any results yet @outnumberredwoman?
Thanks @marievangoethem, I will be honest I was expecting at least a phonecall from my headteacher and an individual risk assessment before returning but nothing so far Hmm
A general question for anyone who knows the answer...if we get symptoms do we still call NHS 111 like it said on our shielding letters or do we just follow the same procedures as everyone else? I am trying to be prepared for all eventualities as it makes me feel more in control. I've found out my local testing drive-through centre and I've located my priority post box!
Hope everyone is finding ways to adjust to their new 'normals'.

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