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So there will be chlorinated chicken in the Uk then ...

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Hermanhessescat · 04/06/2020 18:23

According to the Independent the government is ready to open british markets to previously prohibited US products to ensure a US trade deal. They are seemingly considering allowing products like chlorinated chicken and hormone fed beef to be imported but applying tarrifs initially 'to protect uk based farmers from competition.' The tarrifs however may be only temporary and could be reduced to zero over 10 years once uk farmers have adapted to the new 'normal.' So basically the US will be able to import foodstuffs which don't comply with the same high production methods used in the uk despite michael gove and theresa villiers promising otherwise. They are already folding under the pressure of US negociators which doesn't bode well for discussions involving nhs contracts. So yet again ordinary people are sold down the river unlike boris who undoubtedly will never be served it at number 10. And even if you don't object to the concept of chlorinated chicken surely this proves yet again that this government is quite prepared just to lie.

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Fosler · 05/06/2020 09:52

But you are happy to eat meat which has been illegally religiously slaughtered? Genuine question.

Hermanhessescat · 05/06/2020 09:57

'just don't buy it ' says someone who doesn't understand the ramifications of the issue.

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Notejode · 05/06/2020 10:04

The independent, The Guardian. Do not move just yet 🙄

pointythings · 05/06/2020 10:07

Notejode so are you suggesting that the vote didn't actually happen?

JacobReesMogadishu · 05/06/2020 10:11

Hopefully it would be easy enough to avoid when buying actual chicken in the supermarket.

But if the imported meat is cheaper whats to stop the likes of Birds Eye or KFC buying it. Suddenly it's in every ready meal, every chicken nugget, every Happy Meal?

I'm 90% vegetarian diet and I think this may just tip me to 100%

ITonyah · 05/06/2020 11:11

@TwelveLeggedWalk

I would actually argue that going vegetarian/vegan is not the solution to this - buying much less, but higher welfare/organic/locally grown eggs, milk/dairy and meat is more effective. Giving a massive supermarket your £ by filling your trolley with Plant Based ranges doesn't help UK farmers here. Appreciate there are lots of other reasons people choose to go meat free, but to avoid low standards meat isn't one.
I agree.
MittensTheSerpent · 05/06/2020 11:13

All meat is disgusting/unethical whether it's pumped full of chlorine or not. Dead flesh. Just stop buying it altogether.

ITonyah · 05/06/2020 11:30

Dead flesh may be disgusting but it isn't necessarily unethical. It depends on your ethics.

ListeningQuietly · 05/06/2020 11:52

American meat is produced with prophylactic antibiotics - illegal in the EU
American milk and dairy is produced with prophylactic antibiotics - illegal in the EU
American meat is still bulked with polyphosphates - illegal in the EU

American meat and dairy is MUCH cheaper than UK and EU
If there is a US trade deal, the USA will demand an end to provenance labelling
and will undercut all UK farmers and put them out of business.

THIS WAS KNOWN IN 2016
IT IS NOT NEWS
BREXIT WILL DESTROY BRITISH AGRICULTURE

(Patrick Minford, one of the proponents admitted such in 2015)

Hermanhessescat · 05/06/2020 12:19

And other industries too.
But people aren’t interested until it hits them personally very much like covid. What’s sad is that the Brexit debate engaged many people who previously weren’t politically aware or active. Now they think it’s done they’re back to their old inertia and the government can basically do what it wants, which it cannily suspected would happen.

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SimonJT · 05/06/2020 17:13

Its very frustrating.

Yes, people will a local butcher can avoid standards lower than ours (which are still low, look at chickens and pigs), but for a great deal of people it would be far far too expensive. If you’re on the minimum wage, a bit of UC and you have children you’re priced out of butchers.

It isn’t just meat and milk though, crops are grown with pesticides that are banned throughout the EU, processed goods rely heavily on high fructose corn syrup etc.

I’m lucky, I have the luxury of being able to afford organic fruit/vet at local independent greengrocers. Lots of people simply don’t have that luxury and won’t be able to just say “I’m not buying it”.

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