So there will be chlorinated chicken in the Uk then ...

[Hermanhessescat]

According to the Independent the government is ready to open british markets to previously prohibited US products to ensure a US trade deal. They are seemingly considering allowing products like chlorinated chicken and hormone fed beef to be imported but applying tarrifs initially 'to protect uk based farmers from competition.' The tarrifs however may be only temporary and could be reduced to zero over 10 years once uk farmers have adapted to the new 'normal.' So basically the US will be able to import foodstuffs which don't comply with the same high production methods used in the uk despite michael gove and theresa villiers promising otherwise. They are already folding under the pressure of US negociators which doesn't bode well for discussions involving nhs contracts. So yet again ordinary people are sold down the river unlike boris who undoubtedly will never be served it at number 10. And even if you don't object to the concept of chlorinated chicken surely this proves yet again that this government is quite prepared just to lie.

Well, all this was 'the will of the people'.

No sympathy for anyone moaning about this if they voted Tory or Leave. This was what you wanted. You were told. You yelled 'Project Fear'. Suck it up.

Country of origin is still mandatory for meat and meat products.

Why Tory? Brexit was done and dusted by the GE.

Plastic, we're long last the point of 'I don't think this will go through'. And as to 'MPs eat meat too', what to say to that?
To do a trade deal with the US they have made it abundantly clear, no COO on packaging, minimal content info. It's no-negotiable. The U.K. does not have the bargaining power to resist. The EU, yes, the UK, no. The EU highly values consumer and environmental protection. The US doesn't. Choices have consequences. This is one of them.

To do a trade deal with the US they have made it abundantly clear, no COO on packaging, minimal content info. It's no-negotiable. The U.K. does not have the bargaining power to resist

But we are negotiating?

ITonyah because by voting Tory, people gave the Tories the majority to drive through this drop in food standards. Can't believe that isn't obvious.No Labour, SNP, Green or Lib Dem MP voted for this, just Tories and the DUP.

Brexit was done and dusted by the GE, but this bill was not - Tory voters gave the government the power to get it through and should accept responsibility for that.

I'm sorry I thought you meant "Project Fear". That was a Brexiteers tactic in the referendum.

ITonyah it was indeed. But warnings about chlorinated chicken were part of that and they were pooh-poohed by the Brexiteers. And now here we are.

Yes I agree the idea of lowering food standards is awful. Hopefully it won't happen, if it does I'll just use the local butcher more than I already do.

Think this has given me the push to go fully vegetarian 😷 . Only been eating chicken and fish for 2 years now, but this sounds awful, and yes, welfare standards for the animals has been a huge concern for a long time, sounds like things are only going to get worse.

I'm so fucking annoyed at this.

I didn't vote for any of this shit and even the people who did vote seem to think it's a bad idea but oh well, they can afford to swan off down the butchers for pricier chicken.

Will Scotland be going along with this or can they reject it? Seriously considering moving back there.

Thank goodness I'm vegetarian!!
People are very naive if they think they are not going to be consuming this!
What about things like chicken burgers & nuggets, ready meals, chicken dishes in restaurants etc? The cheap chicken in nursery and school dinners....
Unless you only eat British, 'compassionately' reared chicken, you are 100% going to be consuming chlorinated chicken

Not just a consumer issue either, will have huge implications for British farming and by extension our countryside and conservation.

www.campaigns.nfuonline.com/page/56262/petition/1?en_chan=tw&locale=en-GB&ea.tracking.id=sharelinktwitter&en_ref=183793744

The only thing we can do right now is vote with our £ - buy local if you can, high welfare if you can afford it, and red tractor labelled whenever possible.

Enjoy your blue passports.....

The thing is butchers may well be forced to sell this meat. Small scale producers may be put out of business because they can't compete with US megaproducers. Prices on the whole are expected to increase with brexit and in particular a no deal one, substantial job losses are also anticipated so the average consumer will simply not be able to afford it.

I would actually argue that going vegetarian/vegan is not the solution to this - buying much less, but higher welfare/organic/locally grown eggs, milk/dairy and meat is more effective. Giving a massive supermarket your £ by filling your trolley with Plant Based ranges doesn't help UK farmers here. Appreciate there are lots of other reasons people choose to go meat free, but to avoid low standards meat isn't one.

Country of origin is still mandatory for meat and meat products.
Until the US trade deal makes it illegal

THis has been part of the Brexit argument for 4 years.
Why is it news to anybody now?

I guess because sadly lots of people believed the 'joking' about chlorinated chicken being Project Fear that would never happen...

Also would have liked to hear confirmed brexiteers argue the positives of this if they agree with it. Otoh if they don't agree how do they feel about the government's mendacity.

Jacob Rees Mogg made a statement during Brexit that if India's food standards were goo enough for their citizens then they are good enough for the UK.

... the issue is wider than food standards being so willing handed over on a plate to lay the way for a deal with the US.

If the govt can do this so easily, workers rights and protections will be the next target as well as H&S.

newshoundsnewsround.wordpress.com/2019/05/09/britain-could-slash-environmental-and-safety-standards-after-brexit/

On the gov website it says things will still be labelled etc and it tells you what will happen if no deal etc ,plus if our manufacturers supply the Eu they will have to label as required still
There is no proof that we will suddenly just stop labelling correctly and put just chicken on it, if people don't buy it then it won't take off

'why is it news to anyone now ?' The more publicity these developments get, the more joe public might actually start to realise that brexit isn't the panacea they were led to believe it would be...

My mp is very proud she voted for chlorinated chicken.

If you need to chlorinate you meat to kill off the bugs you have in it due to the practices you use in rearing it, then there is a real problem.

Apparently the US are also pushing that part of the deal is that it can't be labelled for country of origin.

@strugglingwithdeciding the trouble is the US objects to country of origin labelling so essentially we will be buying blind. Funnily enough the US also objects to some of the geographic protections we might like to preserve so expect minnesota melton mowbury pork pies.

So just don’t buy it.