It's murder surely? (**Trigger upsetting content**)

[Nymeriastark1]

The video of the man who was killed in America by the police officer's has just come up on my Facebook news feed. I couldn't watch all of it and had to hide it as it was just so upsetting to watch. Fucking disturbing actually. You can see the officer putting pressure on his neck while looking right down at him as he is literally suffocating to death. It's murder surely?! It was almost as if he was enjoying it. Please tell me charges are going to be pressed against these police officer's. I keep thinking about it getting upset that these men are going to get away with it.

I'm glad to see that there is a lot of backlash against this incident. On every social media platform. Hopefully this will push for something to be done. I hope George Floyd gets justice for what happened to him.

There is racism here in the UK without a doubt but I'm sorry, no way is it as bad as the USA. On a whole Europe and the UK are more egalitarian.

I watch a lot of reality shows based in America on stations like Dave. What always strikes me is how segregated certain areas are, that you can have a long running program where there are no black or POC on the show EVER. Then there's ignorant programs like maury where you see 90% black poor people. The ignorance on display is appalling.

They also have schools that are almost completely black or filled with minorites whilst another school can be almost completely white. Yet both are in the same area.

The middle classes in America tend to quote god to justify their privilege. I have no problem with being religious, but there's a certain hypocrisy tied into it all that I do not find in the MC here. As snotty as they can be.

I always say being poor and black is awful, but I'd rather be poor and black in the UK or Europe over the USA any day of the week.

Even when Barack Obama reached the highest office possible in America, his citizenship was contested.
Then there's the guns.

This is why I find the thought of even closer alliance with the USA via a trade deal frankly quite disturbing.

@catherine black people are not KILLED to the same extent in the UK.

But is it okay to say "we are racist but we are better than the USA". I do not think soz

What are we doing in the UK to fight against racism. Nothing.

White privilege and superiority is everywhere in the UK.

My black friend from London told me how she went around to a shared house. And a person in that house said "get that fucking ni&^er out of my house".

So I dont think that we can pour scorn on the USA when we are doing absolutlely nothing in the UK

This is a modern day lynching. I see the police officer as no different from the smiling white men caught on camera watching black men hanging from trees

@JoeExoticsEyebrowRing I don’t know if you saw my precious post but rest assured the officers WILL be charged. It’s just not something that happens literally overnight. The state’s attorney will need to do a preliminary investigation to even decide which charges are applicable and likely to stick. Does this work differently in the UK? Even though I live in England I don’t know much about its criminal law.

@Annamaria14 you have seen extreme racism in every state in the USA?? Do you mind sharing what led you to spend enough time in each place that you witnessed such abhorrent behavior? Perhaps you serve on some kind of international investigatory body? It sounds fascinated.

I grew up in America, mostly the east coast and Texas, plus four years at university in California. I think I’ve spent more than a passing length of time in about 20 states, not nearly as many as you have. I’ve also been a “trailing spouse” for many years in different parts of Europe and the Middle East. Still I am only one person, with only one person’s experiences, and I would never feel qualified to generalize about even a smaller European country, let alone a nation of fifty states. I admire your confidence!

Previous, not precious!

Annamaria14 I am black born in the UK. I am not saying racism does not exist. I am saying it is not as bad as the USA. That is all.

Racism exists in every white majority country. Doesn't make any of it acceptable, but the bleak reality is, it's how much you can live with.

But truthfully where I live in London the reality FOR ME and my Sons is the biggest threat is some of the children on our street that have been involved in knife crime. I chose a school for my son that meant he took the train rather than walking or the bus. My sister is wortied sick about when my nephew has to change schools. That's the reality. Racism is not the N0.1 threat (right now at any rate) for us.

Please don't try and tell me what it's like a black person living in the UK. Threats are everywhere, and I can tell you incidents of often 'subtle' racism all day long, but it is different from the USA. I would feel much less safe there than here.

@WhatExit are you saying that the USA does not have multiple racism issues, worse than other countries?

@Annamaria14 As I said, there is a major problem in the United States with police treatment of people of color. And yes I do agree there is a lot of racism among the citizenry as well.

Do I deem myself qualified to determine which country’s race/class divisions are worse than another’s? Of course not. I’m just one person who reads a lot of stuff. If I’ve learned one thing through all of my travels it’s that my experience does not mean my opinions apply to everyone.

I remain very intrigued about your experiences though. Care to share what led you to be in all American states to such an extent that you observed extreme racism in all of them? Was there any difference in the quality and expression of the racism from state to state or was it exactly the same everywhere? What about within different regions of individual states? I can’t imagine what your background could be but it sounds fascinating!

This will end in riots and more deaths. Like back in America in ‘92.
Violence begets violence.

I'm in the US, watching CNN . A police station in Minneapolis has been surrounded and set on fire, along with several other buildings. ( Apparently the police have fled the precinct building. ) They think that a gas line near the station may have been ruptured.

There have been disturbances in at least half a dozen other cities in the US tonight.

The rage here has reached astronomical levels. The horrible truth is that Black people are still looked upon as a subhuman species by many in this country. How much more can they be expected to endure ?

surprise surprise

FBI are looking for more evidence. What is wrong with what they have?

And have I got this right? Trump is calling those protesting against this murder, thugs???? Wtf

He's not calling people protesting thugs, he's saying that about people looting, setting fires and being violent.

Which sadly often happens because some people inclined to that behaviour piggy back on legitimate protests.

Trump's tweet has been hidden by Twitter for 'glorifying violence' but you can still read it - it says 'when the looting starts, the shooting starts'. This is from The President of the USA.

Wuuuuuuuhhhhh?!

FBI are looking for more evidence. What is wrong with what they have?

The article says they're asking for more eyewitnesses ... surely that should help?
If they're going to charge this policeman (and I hope they do) they might as well get as much evidence as they can to make it stick

I cannot believe Trump had just said

"When the looting starts, the shooting starts".

Twitter has put a warning on what he said, for promoting violence.

The "historical context" is a reference to the late 1960s, when the phrase "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" was coined by Miami Police Chief Walter Headley, in reference to his aggressive policing policies in black neighbourhoods.

Doll where are the four police officers that committed the crime? I read somewhere that they and their families have had to flee their homes is that right?

I watched this the other day . An American police officer was a chief in the KKK, there have also been numerous police officers that have been fired ( thank god) for applying to join.

www.ted.com/talks/daryl_davis_why_i_as_a_black_man_attend_kkk_rallies/up-next

The four police officers need to be arrested and charged. If they're not, it's a clear message from the authorities that this man's life doesn't matter.

Yes op it's deeply deeply disturbing.
Everything about it.
It's just so awful and hideous and dreadful.
No one can remain unmoved by it.
Short term this man with the knee is clearly enjoying it. His full body weight is on this man. It remains there after he has passed out.
He should never ever walk free again. And the taunting of Floyd, asking him to get in the car!

The larger problem... I don't know. I guess its just money.
I'm sure once I read that all the companies whose Wealth was built on the back of slaves had to either pay back ancestors or plunge money into deprived communities, better schools, chances, education etc?

Because these communities are starting from not the back foot, but way down in the pit.

Re the prosecution apparently the death in new York from neck restraint, the cops got off because it was rushed.

They have to follow the law to do it right and get convictions.
It's a litmus paper though... America will be raging and trumps comments will make it worse.

He has condemned the police man... Asked for expedited justice. He needs to be extremely diplomatic now.

What exit

That's really interesting.

Would his pledge to up hold a b and c come into play with those two instances, pre meditated or intent?

Surely police get even basic first aid training and would know you don't crush someone's airway, so he can't plead ignorance on that?

Again pre mediated, how long can anyone sustain full body weight on their neck?

Then when he goes limp the knee is still there.

The poor standers by.
You just want to run at the cop and push him off. Thank god people noticed and filmed it!!