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Why is being an early bird seen as somehow morally preferable?

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Wrongdissection · 19/05/2020 08:37

DH is an early bird, he’s up by 6am latest every single morning, exercising and pottering about before work, catching up on tv, sticking washing in and just general DOING early doors. He regularly falls asleep on the sofa by 8.30pm. Making it to 10pm is an achievement we comment on (unless special occasion and we’re out and about!).

I am not an early bird. I set my alarm for 15 minutes before I’m due to start work (homeworker before all this anyway) and struggle when I have to do it earlier. I do my pottering and exercising after work, I catch up on tv and am usually ready to go to bed between 10 and midnight.

So why does everyone seem to say things like ‘if you went to bed earlier you’d be able to get up earlier’ or ‘you’re tired because you stay up late’ and yet no one ever suggests to DH that he’d be able to stay up later if he stayed in bed longer in the morning? Why is getting up early somehow morally superior and to be aspired to?! We’re awake for pretty much the same amount of hours per day so why is one better than the other?

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theThreeofWeevils · 21/05/2020 00:06

He was subsequently murdered for political reasons

Well you would say that, wouldn't you Grin yep, I'm probably going to hell too.

Owls should marry larks. That way, they have a reasonable chance of getting morning tea brought them.

DPotter · 21/05/2020 03:34

This owl is not brought tea by her lark DP, as he would make it at 6-6.30am and I'm not awake until much later!

didmyhousethismornin · 21/05/2020 03:39

My DSF was an early bird and thought he was much more superior than DM and I who would get up later. He would fall asleep on the sofa at about 6, after he got home from a 9-5 job. We never spoke to him. If he had woke up later we would’ve (he’d get up at 5 when he could get up at 8 and still have plenty of time to get ready and commute).

DamnYankee · 21/05/2020 03:57

Because those are working hours?
Before WFH, they used to be.
My DS converted from EB to NO when he hit adolescence. He's always been a good sleeper (after newborn hell), but back to needing 12 hours of sleep!
I mostly get annoyed because we have appointments that need to happen during the day and/or I'm not going to stay awake supervising him.
He's taking melatonin and getting lot of exercise during the day now, which seems to be helping.
Not sure what we'll do when school starts again. "Well Child" visit early August. May require a finger prick for iron...

DameHannahRelf · 21/05/2020 04:45

I find it as weird as the people that are morally superior about not wearing pj's during the day, even if they aren't going anywhere, (yet oddly these people also seem more likely to be sahp's to older kids, who don't work, but think they contribute more to society by wearing "proper" clothes to clean the house etc, than a shop worker or whatever who lives in their pj's and house coat on their days off Confused).

My gran was a bit like this, even on a Sunday you had to be up and dressed by a certain time, even if it was pissing down with rain, and you spent the day glued to the telly watching cartoons. Thankfully my parents were happy enough for me to have lie ins when I could (I'm also a natural night owl and am at my worst early in the mornings).

thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 21/05/2020 04:52

I'm an early bird. Hence being up now and about to go for a jog. I have been like this my whole life, even as a teenager. I enjoy these first few hours of the day as I have them to myself and it feels like "extra time".

However I am rubbish in the evening and am not remotely a party animal. Getting up early does not make you a fun person and sometimes I do wish I was more wild and crazy rather than in my pjs by 9pm every day.

Porridgeoat · 21/05/2020 06:10

I adore the quietness first thing, even if I just read with a coffee for an hour with the birds tweeting in the trees outside my window, it feels delicious and indulgent.

SnowsInWater · 21/05/2020 06:12

I am very grateful that my sister is a night owl and I'm an early bird - it means we can still have long phone calls despite the 9-11 hours time difference between us 😊

OrangeGinLemonFanta · 21/05/2020 06:15

Quietness! The birds woke me up at 5.20am this morning, they are SO LOUD.

I am neither an owl nor a lark, I just love lying in bed. I hate getting up no matter when I wake up and love lying in bed awake for as much as an hour before I get up.

Imabadmummy · 21/05/2020 10:13

Naturally I am a night owl, so is DH.
Since having kids I had to become a morning person....still not the most pleasant morning person.
Kids now 7& 8 and still insist on getting up by 7/7.30 - everyday, though recent got them to go down & watch TV and leave us in bed a bit which is amazing!

I get up for work at 5.45 & go the gym on my way in (or did before lockdown) but now I'm not getting up until after 8....no idea how I'm gonna get back to work routine as I used to start at 8!

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 21/05/2020 12:56

I'm definitely not a morning person. I've tried. I still partly wish I could do it... if only cus I could finish work at 4 and fo to the beach. Instead I grab every single possible extra minute in bed after alarm....

flipperdoda · 21/05/2020 13:27

For all the people saying morning people don't get judged in the same way - I do genuinely think you have a point and you're right in terms of the moral superiority thing, BUT we morning people totally do get judged too. See earlier comments about being boring. I got a lot of stick at university with nights out because I just didn't want to stay out til 3/4am, it was miserable for me! 1am was okay, the night I was back in bed by midnight was the best.

There are strengths and weaknesses to both. If everyone is understanding and flexes a bit it generally works (although the more extreme examples - just don't marry someone the opposite of you I suppose)

Thebearsbunny · 21/05/2020 13:49

My ex fil was similar. He used to invite us for Sunday lunch at 11am. Given that we never got up before 10 at the weekend we were effectively eating a full roast dinner for breakfast.

ToDoListAddict · 21/05/2020 14:06

I have comments made to me all the time because I'm a night owl but the rest of my colleagues are early birds.
It's just funny because they make out I'm lazy for starting work later, but when they start work an hour earlier than me, they're not working! They're just chatting and having coffee etc
And if the US office contact us, the early birds have all left for the day and I have to help with all the queries.
So I can't see how I'm lazy if they're the ones that have engineered their day to do minimum work Hmm

peaceanddove · 21/05/2020 14:09

I've been wondering this recently. Usually I'm up for 7.30am on the days I work but at weekends and my off days I love a lie in until about 9.30am. Yesterday I slept in until 10am but still got plenty done. Did some laundry, tidied around and popped to the shop, then enjoyed an afternoon in the garden with my best friend. Last night I did some jigsaw and reading until about midnight.

But my SIL implies that I'm lazy (she's up at 6am whether working or not)!!!

DPotter · 23/05/2020 14:55

DamnYankee
Your adolescent is being a normal teenager - lots of science showing the teenage brain is still developing and does flip towards the more nocturnal. He's not ill, but going through a normal develop phase. I would respectfully suggest he doesn't need melatonin and probably does need or want your supervision as he develops into an independent young adult. He will probably be mortified at being taken to a "Well Child" clinic.

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