How much sick pay do you get?

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How much sick pay do you get?

Trying to work out how much to offer a new employee.

Thanks in advance.

6 days per year then ssp after that

@ReincarnatedDodo I've been there a long time and the company has changed hands etc so all sorts of different contracts exist now, so I think all people now joining will get the same terms as one another. Giving 52 weeks paid sick is madness so I can understand why it was changed...

2 months full and 2 months half but that can be extended at their discretion.

I used to work for a multinational and you got 8 weeks full and 8 weeks half, but for about £0.35 a month you could insure yourself through the payroll at 75% pay for up to 5 years in case of illness I think. It was absurd and I spent a lot of time reminding people to sign up for it.

8 weeks full pay and then SSP. One year I used all my self certification sick leave followed by having been signed off due to taking longer than expected to recover from surgery. I work for a small charity.

@LilyMarshall www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/sicknessabsencefallstothelowestratein24years/2018-07-30

Hmm so it is less than one percent difference in private and public sector. And health care workers are the highest Sickness rate, which makes perfect sense.

Indeed, I fear it's less to do with public sector workers taking the piss, rather that people at places with poor sickness pay feel forced to go in when they shouldn't.

Even though I work in the public sector I went back to work after a serious injury, before I should have, because I was about to hit a threshold for disciplinary action. A friend had their pay cut because they had cancer and the treatment meant that they were considered to have too many days off.

OP most companies who offer.large packages eg 6 month full and 6 half have insurance policies to cover. Also sick pay is to assist in people coming back to work. It isn't 6 month then 6 month then back to work.

Four weeks a year full pay. After that ssp.

My friend gets nothing for the first day ( presumably to stop people taking hangover days) and then ssp after that.

1st day unpaid, then 2 weeks full pay, anything after that SSP

6 months full/6 months half but it's a case by case basis and in the right circumstances I could have a phased return of years, where I only went in for a day for example.

Railway.

4 months full pay. Work in pharma. We use the Bradford formula and the effect it has on me is that I'm less likely to return to work quickly because taking Tues and Wed off work is less bad (only 1 incident) than taking Tues and Thurs (2 incidents, even if same bug).

6 months full pay, private sector, large multinational.

In a small business you wont be able to compete with that. I would put in place a policy that you can afford taking into account you could have an employee off several times a year, so maybe cap as so many days in 12 month rolling period.

I’ve just lost my job but I got 4 weeks full pay

Oh I forgot to say, if you don't have a sick day in six months you get an extra day's annual leave. So its another version of not paying you for your first day off sick - an incentive not to take a sick day.

Large corporate

Six months full pay, thereafter 60% salary funded by the pension pot.

I see that you are a small business, so I mention this incase the pension company can do something. Also to encourage you to think about what you can do for your staff, rather than think how little you can get away with. Good luck in your business.

Ps in the public sector where I am although you get six months full and then six months half pay, it’s a rolling year and they go back four rolling years to count it. You do the first week of illness self certified but need a GP line after that.

Plus the salary isn’t the best and there are no free car parking spaces, discounts for anything etc. like some larger organisations have.

Can you get insurance to cover staff absences (or a discount rate on bupa or anything that could treat staff illness and get them working again ASAP) as it may be an affordable monthly cost but could mean you have your costs covered if the staff are off for any reason?

OP - if you're still looking for advice... if you're a small company and it's a new employee, just offer statutory as part of contracted terms.

You can always pay full pay at your discretion.

Wow some people get loads!

At my company its 5 days sick pay in a rolling 12 months period and beyond that is SSP/at their discretion.

I have a colleague that was off sick and got 6 months full pay and then more months (cant remember exactly how many) after that at 50% pay but they were very extenuating circumstances that have had a life changing impact for them.

Huge national business - nothing.