Another Radford

[triedandtestedteacher]

Is it me or are the Radfords a bit selfish? Loads of people congratulating them on social media about the new baby. I'm crippled with morning sickness at the moment and I know I'm not giving my dd 100 percent on this homeschooling as a result. How are they all getting homeschooled? How can they possibly attend to all the emotional, mental, physical and educational needs of those children? I caught one episode of their programme that showed her in hospital unable to attend her own son's birthday party because she was having yet another child. I know they say they're self sufficient with the bakery etc but they still use NHS and education resources. Her having that baby at this time is adding to the strain of the NHS. I just don't get how people can congratulate them

All those children must be missing out on so much. I think the parents are reprehensible.

While children don’t need useless stuff they do need proximity to their parents. Not all children necessarily come out with what’s bothering them upfront, it can happen after you’ve eaten together, discussed homework, read to them etc and they’re being tucked in.

I don’t know how many children are left at home, but let’s say 5 have gone. If all children are home by 4 and most of them are in bed by 9 that leaves 5 hours to feed and clean 17 children, assuming that laundry and other chores are done during the day. All of that time could be conceivably be taken up with a newborn and a few toddlers, but let’s say everyone is fed and clean in 2 1/2 hours. Not reading to her children and not supervising homework will mean there’s more “free” time but at best, there’d be 150 minutes/day for Sue to be with her children. Which is under 8 minutes each. Seriously, if they had learning problems, were being bullied, were struggling with anxiety - would she even notice?

@nolongersurprised agreed there is no way in the world she has enough time. My Dd takes a minimum of 40 minutes on a normal school day by the and we've done say 20 mins reading, go through her spellings or times tables for school, have a cuddle and chat about her day. I feel guilty if we miss that for any reason.

The pie shop can’t make that much, it’s hardly Greggs! They will make money from Youtube, from tv shows and interviews and then they will be sent freebies in exchange for posting about companies on Instagram or Facebook, some companies might even offer payment alongside the freebies, I know that is the case with other influencers.

They attack anyone who dares to disagree with them, if it’s on their social media channels I presume they delete and block but I have -also seen the older daughters attack people in the Facebook comments on articles and I don’t mean really nasty comments just people who don’t buy the rubbish about the pie shop and perfect family life. What they don’t seem to grasp is that they invite peoples opinion by openly sharing their lives online/on tv/giving interviews.

they must earn less than 50k from the pie shop to still claim CB

He’ll have it so that all the kids that work there are salaried and possibly sue you as his bookkeeper/admin or something so that his profit is as low as possible.

I thought about YouTube and media income but they had 15 kids before they started all that so he must of been supporting them all on his pie wage. It just seems bizarre. They made a big song and dance about not claiming anything other than child benefit.
Maybe I should own a pie shop if it's so lucrative

Sue has issues. She will be pregnant again but September

They sell the pies online. I wonder if a proportion of the people that follow them on social media also buy the pies. Like pp suggested I imagine he has it so a lot is tax deductible. Lots of 'influencers' are writing off all kinds of things

I thought about YouTube and media income but they had 15 kids before they started all that so he must of been supporting them all on his pie wage. It just seems bizarre. They made a big song and dance about not claiming anything other than child benefit.

The CTC system was a lot more generous in the past and it wasn't a 'benefit' until the Tories got in. I think what they said in the past was that they had never claimed anything they weren't entitled to.

They have always been portrayed as this wonderful family that the tax payer isn't paying for, and they have never really set the record straight.

It is strange though how they became media sweethearts, yet another family in pretty much the same situation were portrayed as the family to hate.

Sue needs therapy to help her work through her OCD to be pregnant. No sooner as one is born, rather than focus on her existing family she is driven towards another baby. She is anxious of not being pregnant, wonder how she'll be after the menopause or if she'll live through her DCs pregnancies.

I couldn’t understand why someone would want that many kids, I came from a large family but I couldn’t tell you what it’s like to live with more than 5 siblings at once because my grandparents took us oldest four (paternal grandparents who wanted custody of my younger siblings as well but they have a different dad)

The only other family I can think of that size are American and have a YouTube channel called ‘crazy middles’ I think they have 22 kids, all of which apart from 2 are adopted so I have more respect for them because they clearly love children of all ages and aren’t putting as much of a strain on the country. I do question how the emotionally support all of their children through.

I’m pretty sure the pie shop is still open online as a lot of their Facebook followers are saying they have received and can’t wait to try them.

Think sue is on the books too as she’s on their website as a staff member, so she probably claims maternity allowance for each pregnancy.

I don't understand why she has none with special needs , the odds are very much stacked against her! Especially now she is older !

It's pretty likely that they do, but the parents wouldn't either notice or be interested. Also it's not something they would publicise.

I have never watched anything about these people apart from reading the posts on here. How much does it cost taxpayers when someone has a baby? £5,000 or more? 22 at £5,000 each is £110,000 at a guess, with a small business I doubt he has ever paid any tax.

I can sort of understand the compulsion to have more following the loss of Alfie - there is a gap in the family that needs to be filled but it never will be because the gap is Alfie shaped. My eldest died at birth and I could have gone on having children forever to try and make the family complete because there always feels like there's a part missing. That can be incredibly difficult to come to terms with for some people. I went on to have 4 more children in very quick succession and that is more than enough but I still feel that urge sometimes and mine are all in double digits. The thought of having had a baby every 15 months or so for the last 10 years is insane.

I don't believe that the magic pie shop pays for them all, I think they get an awful lot of tax credits and child benefit and they get a lot of stuff #gifted even if they don't declare it on insta or youtube.

She had her last baby Bonnie around the same time I had my DS. He’s 17 months old, still breastfed and still definitely a baby who requires most of my attention. She has a newborn now so Bonnie will inevitably be forgotten, this seems to happen every time she has a newborn. She seems to stop bothering with them when they turn one because they’re not a tiny defenceless newborn anymore. She needs therapy.

I know they say they're self sufficient with the bakery etc

I think that just means they aren't claiming unemployment benefits. They still claim a huge amount in child benefit and tax credits.

But I agree that in general the entire family dynamic is totally fucked up and at the centre of it you have two parents who had very dysfunctional childhoods themselves, and who have never really dealt with all of that. The obsession with babies is not normal, not healthy and they can't see the impact on their other children.

Just awful.

All that money they’re clAiming through child benefit. Are they costing any less that a single parent on income support

Are they costing any less that a single parent on income support

Yes, they will be receiving almost 14k a year in child benefit alone. They undoubtedly also receive tax credits however much they claim they don’t. Plus each birth costs the NHS 10k, plus the cost of another human using the NHS in general. They definitely cost more than a single parent of, say, two or three children on universal credit.

The Magic Pie shop hasn’t updated its website in 5 years.

Are they costing any less that a single parent on income support

Income support is about £73 a week so....

Also, why a single parent? Is that the worst kind of benefit scrounged a person can be measured against? There’s no comparison IMO. The vast majority of single parents don’t A) choose to be single parents and B) have 22 children. Why don’t you compare them to other families with massive families?

No I mean it in the way that they’re fawned over and adored as hailed as heroes because they “don’t claim anything”. Good God It wasn’t a pop at single parents. I was a single parent myself.

But loads of people claim benefits, not just single parents. So why pick them as the comparison?

Don't forget they have been claiming child benefit for 30 years now. They must have had a fortune.

Also they definitely did receive tax credits even if they don't now as they said they did. That too must be a substantial amount.

As another poster said, each birth costs around £10,000 and that's if there are no problems. Plus other medical costs. dental costs, the cost of education.

But loads of people claim benefits, not just single parents. So why pick them as the comparison?

Yes but if you are a single Mom of even 1 or 2 and claiming benefits then the DM thinks you are absolute scum, whilst printing about how wonderful the Radfords are.

@JonHammIsMyJamm when was faradays closed? That's not true!