Why can't we do this next week?

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3 families.....all live in same street.......all been self isolating for almost 14 days......all adults wfh , all kids playing/schooling from home......

Can we share childcare next week so some of us can complete our work without staying up all night?

Obviously everyone is asymptomatic!

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Because isolating is the only way to beat this thing. Any member of one of the families could have been infected but not showing symptoms. It is not unusual especially for younger people to not show any symptoms if infected. But they remain infectious. Seriously, please trust the scientists and keep the isolation going.

No you cant. keep all households separate

I've seen it in a diagram. But basically imagine person 1 has a cough. Contagious for 7 days. 7 days later person 2 gets it but is asymptomatic, then 7 days later person 3 gets it, then 7 days later person 4. It's a good month if you allow for being asymptomatic

I do understand what you mean OP. If you've all been properly isolating for 14 days then you should all be virus free.

I think the main reason not to is social rather than medical. People see this sort of thing happening and decide the rules don't apply and the whole concept of lockdown starts breaking down.

@@VadenuRewetje does that mean that our kids will be carriers indefinitely then?!

Every human not in your own household should be regarded as a carrier until a vaccine is produced. We will be advised that it is OK to dial back on the social distancing not "at a point when we won't get infected" but instead "at a point when scientists calculate that the number of people who will get seriously ill is going to be manageable by the hospitals". Once the restrictions on movement & activities have been in place for enough time that each isolating household is probably either virus-free or had-it-and-recovered, then we will gradually be advised what the safest way to take a modest step towards dialing back the restrictions would be. Once that happens there will be an upwards curve in infections again, but hopefully at a rate that is low enough to not actually overwhelm the NHS.

Please stay at home until actual scientific advice is that it is OK.

It’s just not worth risking it is it?

Have you really all genuinely genuinely been isolating? Haven't had to do any shopping or come into contact with any surface way from your home?

The answer is no anyway, but I just can't understand how anyone is managing to isolate so thoroughly?

I’m with you OP. Logic, with a basic understanding of the science too, suggests it would do no actual harm as you are all now 99.9% likely to be virus free. I’m sure everyone will advise against though.

No the government have told you not to meet up with anyone that’s not from your household- what bit of you are struggling to understand?

Do you want this over as quickly as possible? If yes, then no don't mix households now

Socially distance from anyone outside your household.

Not rocket science

The logic is that when people starts thinking ,,,...oh it's ok for me to do x, the chances are a large proportion will make a bad call , and that proportion will go up as people see others bending the rules

And then we get harder restrictions and a longer problem and more unnecessarily dead people

If all have been isolating for 14 days- nobody in or out- no going to shops etc- then I don't see the problem. But realistically someones been to the shops haven't they?

logically, you probably can.

socially, you can't because the new social norm is 'stay home'. and if some people start breaking that, then others (who have not done a strong self-isolation) will break it too and the social contract that currently keeps us all at home & well behaved will start to break.

Yes, it is very tough, but it is not for ever and your employers should be forgiving of the fact that it is very hard to work with kids at home.

Why have you been isolating? Because someone in your household has symptoms? So what if one of you becomes infectious without symptoms on day 12? Still infectious on day 14 when you want to get all these families in contact with each other and spread it around? Presumably at least one person from one family will need to go to the supermarket at some point and can pick it up there then spread it about amongst you all? Are you actually grasping how this works? Do you actually realise what you’ve been asked to do and the reasons for it? Over 500 died yesterday from this INFECTIOUS disease and you think you are all immortal, ffs really?

I’m not sure when the penny will actually drop amongst the public tbh. This is a public health emergency, this is a highly contagious disease that kills people of all ages and we have been advised by experts not to mix with others outside of our household and people are still carrying on as normal or questioning the rules to maleness life easier for themselves

Where are they have going to have got it from though twinny if they chose to self isolate without symptoms and have not been to the shops etc? Have none of all the families been out anywhere at all op? And are you seriously all able to maintain not going anywhere for another week?

So not one of you has stepped outside your home? Not even to grab something from the car parked on the road of which a passer by may have accidentally touched? Or to get essentials from the shop. No one has dropped anything off for any of you and may have passed it that way?

Honestly as an nhs worker please do not do it.

No of course not.

twinny the op and her family have been self isolating for 14 days, this is not 'carrying on as normal'. People aren't just wanting to make life easy, some need to work and having to do so whilst looking after young children is very difficult. You can't blame people for desperately trying to find a way to make it work. She only bloody asked and has been told!

I can give you 563 reasons why you shouldn’t do this.

3 families have all self isolated for 14 days with no symptoms?

That aside, no, you're not allowed to do this.

Thank you for those who've responded nicely.........

Thank you also to those who can't propose any medical reason as to why it can't be done

The irony here is that the only other families I know who are doing this next week are all doctors.......

We all have different views on this, that's ok!

None of you have left the house or come into contact with another human being or outside item delivered to your home for 14 days? Really?

I find that exceptionally hard to believe.