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Is travelling ina helicopter particularly dangerous

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Lardlizard · 29/01/2020 07:54

How many more times dangerous than travelling in the roads I wonder ? Or is it like flying safter than road travel ?

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MiniGuinness · 30/01/2020 05:33

I live in New York and there were two fatal crashes last year. Apparently helicopter crashes are less frequent now than they were, and I generally love flying, but really don’t think I could get in a helicopter.

olivehater · 30/01/2020 05:41

According to the know laws of physics they shouldn’t fly apparently. That’s enough to put me off.

backinthebox · 30/01/2020 12:21

According to the know laws of physics they shouldn’t fly apparently

As far as I understand it, a helicopter rotor blade is still an aerofoil, Bernoulli’s Theorem still applies to it, and lift still occurs when the airflow moves around the aerofoil in such a way that the pressure above it is lesser than the pressure below it. These are all known laws of physics and are taught to all pilots, whether fixed wing or helicopter. @olivehater could you tell me which laws of physics you are referring to?

ItIsAllChange · 30/01/2020 12:30

They don't have black boxes do they which helps to improve safety on planes so it's harder to improve on what went wrong.

You mean that they don’t have to but some do choose to.

olivehater · 30/01/2020 12:35

Backinthebox - it was just a fun fact someone told me once. Perhaps not fact thenGrin

TeacupDrama · 30/01/2020 12:42

road deaths in Uk are 1700 per year slight decrease since 2012 that is 4.5 per day still too many but nowhere as bad as the figures suggested up thread, safety is worked out per passenger mile

TeacupDrama · 30/01/2020 12:47

also the rate in UK is one of the lowest in the world at less than 5 per 100, 000
only Ireland, Spain, Demnark, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Iceland, Greenland and Israel have similar rates everywhere else in the world is worse some places upto 40 per 100,000

ivykaty44 · 30/01/2020 12:50

TeacupDrama If the figures up thread are incorrect - why have you given identical figures for the U.K. as given up thread? And where is your proof the world Health Organisation figures are wrong for worldwide figures?

TeacupDrama · 30/01/2020 13:23

someone was quoting 3500 not 1700 which is double the correct figure
sorry I didn't see you had corrected it already

getupnow · 30/01/2020 13:30
  • They don't have black boxes do they which helps to improve safety on planes so it's harder to improve on what went wrong. You mean that they don’t have to but some do choose to.*

Yes it's not a legal requirement & I believe very few do, remember a pilot telling me. A quick Google says Scottish police implemented them after the Glasgow crash & an article from 2013 "only 11 helicopters out of the 180 which have crashed in the UK in the past 10 years were fitted with a black box flight data recorder"

ivykaty44 · 30/01/2020 14:16

@TeacupDrama 3500 a day is the correct figure 🙈 worldwide and 1700 for the U.K. I didn’t correct it, it was correct 1.3 million people die each year in cars

TeacupDrama · 30/01/2020 21:06

@ivykaty44 sorry I got confused as people keep swapping between daily and annual figures and then world figures and UK figures sometimes without making a distinction

"3500 a day is the correct figure 🙈 worldwide and 1700 for the U.K" sort of implies that half the daily deaths are in the UK which is not what you meant, when actually it is 3500 people die each day in the whole world; the daily figutre for UK is about 4.5 with an annual total of 1700 in the UK and a an annual world wide total of 1,3 million which is horrific
the poorer the country generally the higher the death rate per 100,000

ivykaty44 · 30/01/2020 21:55

I have the link to WHO if it wasn’t clear from my text I’m sure there text was clear

ginandbearit · 30/01/2020 22:32

Its not just the plummeting like a stone that worries me but the flames ..those poor people in the Grand Canyon crash burnt alive ..there should be a way to neutralize petrol and have crash proof tanks.

Brokenlightfitting · 30/01/2020 22:50

when the liberty helicopter crashed in new york in 2009 we had been on one of their trips a couple of days before

I haven't been on a helicopter since

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