How are your older teen/young adult children reacting to the election?

[BertrandRussell]

My 18 year old is incredibly upset- it was his first opportunity to vote and he feel very let down by Corbyn.

@daisypond. “ There are virtually no jobs available in the UK.”

I find that surprising.

“ I don't think being a Labour supporter is anything to be proud of. It was the nasty party in this election.”

Oh come on! You won- don’t start rewriting history!

dd wants to move to Germany,
she was delivering leaflets for labour and could not believe how accepting of the result I was

i explained afaik Germany has its own troubles

Barbed- “teaching in Asia”
is not leaving the country because the party you support lost an election. I know loads of people who have ‘taught in Asia’.
It’s moving somewhere sunny, probably working in an international school, having a jolly expat lifestyle, in a less democratic country with higher levels of corruption and inequality. Where, and this is key, you are able to afford a maid because local wages are so low but you are paid a uk/us rate.
I have ‘taught in Asia’ myself. As a 20 year old untrained middle class girl on a 3 month ‘gap year’ in Thailand. I had a blast and made some good friends (all back in uk now) but added nothing to their society, other than my tourist ££.

Miserable.

She does her a levels and the was planning to go to france for a year to work then degree.

She'll stick to the plan if she can. Then I think she'll emigrate.
In 20 years or so time, we'll be a group of old people with adult children who live in different countries. Like ireland in the 1950s.

And yet I and over thirty million other people in the UK work, and none of us feel that we need to move to a politically corrupt country

Wow - you’ve asked 30 million working people about their plans for the future since the GE was announced yesterday - awesome!

GE result

DS14 is pissed off. He has a specific learning disorder and knows the battles we’ve had to get this diagnosed. He knows that we already pay for the equipment he needs and the doctors he sees.

He knows that his grandmother was kept in an ambulance for 2 hours outside A&E after a recent stroke. He knows that people were queuing out of the door and being treated in corridors.

He knows that as a teacher I now do dinner time duties each week as there is no money for lunchtime staff.

He cannot believe that the country has allowed the same party that has brought us to this point to continue in office.

DD is training as a teacher, she's gutted for herself and her pupils. She's in Blyth Valley.

Conversation at work yesterday was interesting. Everyone bar me had voted Tory, all previously Labour. They all agreed Johnson was a disgusting liar, and a dangerous Russian agent. But Corbyn was worse, a terrorist cheerleader and fucked into a cocked hat on Brexit. They know bad times are coming, but they were coming anyway. One thing stuck out: when the public and police brought down Usman Khan on London Bridge, he had a perfect opportunity to praise the police and condemn Tory probation policy. Open goal, and he missed it. I shan't miss the idiot.

"Teaching in Asia" big whup

I've also done that. I found the ex pat lifestyle in Asia absolutely abhorrent.

My lot are fuming.

Hilarious that teenagers think that going to "teach in Asia" or "move to Europe" is some kind of protest.

I mean Asia is a fucking big place and the vast majority of it spectacularly to the right of the UK. Still, they can have a maid and pay for a tuk tuk driver so it's all good.

Europe? We're one of the most centrist countries in Europe ffs!

And all the weeping and wailing...gosh I suppose I was like that when Thatcher got in too. But at least my parents were sensible enough to tell me to buck up and get on with it rather than having a pity party for me.

I say this as a socialist. But some of you are acting like the BNP got in or something. Or like anyone cares that your little poppet is off to Thailand to lie on a beach teach for a year.

Ellie is distraught! She hates this country so much she's moving to Thailand to teach twice a week and do ket on the beach at the weekend!

School elections are always different because the DC don't have to take account of the UK voting system, it's a straight %.

Not that I'm advocating PR because that would lead to permanent hung parliament with power in the hands of very small, possibly extreme parties,

The "Teaching in Asia" thing.
On all grad recruitment websites at this time of year there are adverts for graduates to spend a year teaching in China. It's a big recruitment exercise. I know one or two who have done it as a kind of gap year after graduation.
If the distraught MN DC feel that a flounce to China makes them feel better they might find out what it's like living in a country without democracy.

watchingthemoon if you think this is a nice cosy party that got in, then you are naive. Read pg 48 of the tory manifesto.

“ I say this as a socialist.“
Course you do, Stanley!

So much has changed, I think the left wearing that self anointed.. Badge of moral superiority has gone, generations of labour loyal voters has gone. The next generations will be watching their families switch sides, and all that deep sadness and reasons why.

I'd feel for those teens really the ones who see their grandparents totally abandoned by a party they slavishly supported all their lives. But.. It's good and healthy, non of us should have blind slavish devotion to anything.

It's a wondeful lesson... Let them earn your trust in actions not weasels words and watch their actions.

Omission is the greatest lie.

Case in point Jeremy corbyn.

Trewswer. “ Ellie is distraught! She hates this country so much she's moving to Thailand to teach twice a week and do ket on the beach at the weekend!”

😂 thanks for figuring out what all those comments meant.

"if you think this is a nice cosy party that got in, then you are naive. Read pg 48 of the tory manifesto."

Where the fuck did you get that from? But if you think they're anything like far right, you need to pay more attention to the world outside the UK (or even within the UK.)

bertrand not sure what you mean by that, tbh.

"If the distraught MN DC feel that a flounce to China makes them feel better they might find out what it's like living in a country without democracy."

They won't though. The white (and they are generally white) expat in Asia is as utterly removed from the shittier parts of their chosen country as the Corbynistas are from the working class of the UK. They will swan about talking about 'making a difference' (especially in SE Asia) and 'improving lives' while drinking cocktails on the beach and living a vastly superior lifestyle to the majority of the people in the country. I've been living in Asia for the past 10 or so years (due to my husband being from here) and these types of people are unbearable. Of course, plenty of totally normal people who just want to see the world and earn some money too.

WatchingtheMoon as someone who is often told off on MN due to lack of inclination to travel, that made me lol.

There seems to be an assumption that I’m missing out on vital experiences that would make me appreciate “other cultures” and I find myself thinking, really?!

There’s a lot of blinkered thoughts about the sort of jobs young people are doing abroad. I don’t know any young person who is working as a teacher abroad doing some sort of gap year thing in a hot country, or any sort of gap year thing.

I find it dispiriting that some people are being so disparaging about politically engaged young people. Particularly on a thread that is specifically about them!

DC aged 11 and 14 are very pissed off.

Interestingly, both their schools held mock elections and Lib Dem won in both. UKIP and the Brexit Party weren't mentioned in DC11's school. In DC14's school they were included in the election, but treated as a joke by the kids, who despised them. Next in line for being mocked and despised were the Conservatives.

Both fairly posh and privileged independent schools, so I was interested to see what their attitudes were.

@AutumnRose1 Oh most of the western people I know in my husband's country are just utterly clueless. No attempt to learn the basics of the language, get very pissed off that they don't get the respect they feel they deserve etc. I've never understood why people think travel broadens the mind, most people just visit the same few places mentioned on Trip Advisor or whatever and think they've had 'an experience'.

@BertrandRussell I think most people are just sick of hand-wringing but no one ever actually doing anything about anything. We've all heard the "I'm moving to Canada/Scotland/Asia" thing before. Encourage your kids to join a party or go out campaigning but 'my kids are sooo saaaad and angry'...I mean? OK?