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Under investigation for theft at work

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Namechange31 · 12/12/2019 20:36

Name changed for this... Long and short of it is this. I received cash at work to be deposited back in Nov. Gave this cash to a direct report of mine to deposit which is normal practice. Looking back I didnt receive a receipt. This money is now missing.

Direct report when questioned said yes they remembered receiving the cash, thought they had put the receipt on my desk. Said they would look at home.

When questioned more formally the next day stuck with this story and then immediately after the meeting said they thought they were getting mixed up and in fact had never seen this money, didnt deposit it and knew nothing about it.

I've now been called to an investigation meeting regarding this money. They will have also. My job share colleague has also been called as a witness as well potentially 2 other members of staff who came into contact with the money. My invite says I can be accompanied whereas my job shares letter says they are purely being called as a witness.

Basically it comes down to them investigating whether myself or job share are responsible for this missing money.

I've given times, dates and an exact account of what happened informally.

I know categorically 100% I passed this over and it was out of my hands but I cant actually prove it. We share an office so it was done verbally.

I'm devastated that I could potentially lose my job for something I haven't done!! Any advice? I'm not in a union.

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 16:50

There are unions but I've been told they wont represent anyone if it happened prior to your join up date

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bobstersmum · 13/12/2019 16:51

I hope you get this sorted! I agree you need to toughen up. This chap is more than happy for you to take the blame for a theft that he committed. Do not forget that!

OxfordCat · 13/12/2019 16:54

That's not true OP, you just need to phone them up and explain the whole situation and that you weren't a member / membership lapses but you want to sign up. You NEED to get organised here and get them helping you.

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Oblomov19 · 13/12/2019 16:55

Poor you.

You need to get wise, get tough and get savvy. You need someone very quick witted/ intelligent, like my friend an employment lawyer to accompany you. Or at least talk to before you go back into work.

Be careful what you say and how you say it.

If you printed the document then the last time that document was opened will be shown. Take a photo of this as evidence.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 13/12/2019 17:00

Who booked the meal on the company credit card? Him or you?

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 17:06

Another member of staff booked it on the credit card. I gave them the card after it had been sanctioned by the finance director.

I'll look into the union side. My sister in law is a solicitor but the letter clearly states department colleague or union rep. I'll at the very least speak to my sister in law.

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mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 17:06

Let's hope the others say he was there when the money was handed over.
You can also ask why he as the only person who banks money, was not asking for the cash.

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 17:18

He isn't the only person. We're both part time so both have jobshares.

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R2519 · 13/12/2019 17:30

If your direct report gave an account in an interview, this cant be simply ignored as he now says he was 'confused'. If you are adamant you gave the money over to him stand by this. Be firm. Dont accuse anyone of stealing anything but state clearly this is what happenned and it had been verified by your direct report in initial interviews. I would then state that if your account is being called into question you want the police brought in. I know that sounds extreme but if you are adamant and with his initial interview verifying your story, its not something your can retract when the police are involved.

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 19:34

I have queried why they haven't been involved already so I will pop this in my note. Thank you

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PrettyPurse · 14/12/2019 07:16

Ask your SIL if the police have the power to request seeing bank accounts as might show DR has paid it into his own account.

christmassausages · 14/12/2019 09:44

'It was printed from our intranet. All forms are online. I specifically remember this because he said he didn't know where to find me and it irritated me that he couldn't just log on and do a search like everyone else does.'

Do you have an IT department that could check back and find the proof of you having printed this form off?

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Namechange31 · 14/12/2019 09:48

There is a huge IT department so I'll email them now.

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Namechange31 · 14/12/2019 10:00

Emailed them requesting this information now.

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CrotchetyQuaver · 14/12/2019 10:15

Good luck op and I agree take in someone else with you. Stay factual. It's very interesting he changed his story. That says a lot to me.

Regarding the poster who said check his bank account. If it was him I doubt he paid it in, but you never know. That's the beauty of cash, it's generally untraceable, unless someone set a trap beforehand.

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Namechange31 · 14/12/2019 10:29

Admittedly I'm not sure if someone in those circumstances would pay it in or not but like you say worth finding out about.

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TSSDNCOP · 14/12/2019 10:45

Is there no cctv in the cash office?

TSSDNCOP · 14/12/2019 10:49

pretty I think as it was cash he wouldn’t have done that.

saltysally · 14/12/2019 10:50

Do you delete your browser history? If not do a search in the History for the name of the form on the date you did it. Depending on how your intranet pages and the form are set up, it may show. You may also have a copy of the form saved in your Download history.

saltysally · 14/12/2019 10:55

Great idea from pps about police investigation and copies of bank statements. I'd try and get copies of any credit cards or debts too but be prepared if you ask they do that you'll have to be prepared to show yours.

Billie87 · 14/12/2019 11:07

CCTV?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 14/12/2019 11:20

I was about to suggest CCTV. Even if it’s at the entrance/exit, he might be spotted checking the money.

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Namechange31 · 14/12/2019 12:14

I'm absolutely fine to show mine.

Security have said that CCTV only covers building entrance and wouldn't prove anything about what happened in the building besides he changed his account to say he was getting mixed up and wasnt there at all.

We've all just migrated to windows 10 so I doubt my machine would show anything from before that? I can certainly ask.

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TrueCrimeFan · 14/12/2019 16:01

I think he will not look believable due to changing his story. You have the truth on your side

angstinabaggyjumper · 14/12/2019 16:22

This happened to me when I had a Christmas job in Boots. The regular consultant and I both had bags of money to take to the cash office. £100 went missing and when questioned she remembered that I had gone to the cash office without her that night,
It was an awful depressing time for me and no one sympathised husband or parents because I 'hadn't done it so I'd be OK.' Two men kept coming to our station looking at me and saying because no one had confessed they would have to get the police involved. After some weeks the consultant mentioned to me that the money had been found it was in the cash bag that I had given in still and they had only just found it. No one really knew what a wretched time I'd had and no one apologised.