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Under investigation for theft at work

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Namechange31 · 12/12/2019 20:36

Name changed for this... Long and short of it is this. I received cash at work to be deposited back in Nov. Gave this cash to a direct report of mine to deposit which is normal practice. Looking back I didnt receive a receipt. This money is now missing.

Direct report when questioned said yes they remembered receiving the cash, thought they had put the receipt on my desk. Said they would look at home.

When questioned more formally the next day stuck with this story and then immediately after the meeting said they thought they were getting mixed up and in fact had never seen this money, didnt deposit it and knew nothing about it.

I've now been called to an investigation meeting regarding this money. They will have also. My job share colleague has also been called as a witness as well potentially 2 other members of staff who came into contact with the money. My invite says I can be accompanied whereas my job shares letter says they are purely being called as a witness.

Basically it comes down to them investigating whether myself or job share are responsible for this missing money.

I've given times, dates and an exact account of what happened informally.

I know categorically 100% I passed this over and it was out of my hands but I cant actually prove it. We share an office so it was done verbally.

I'm devastated that I could potentially lose my job for something I haven't done!! Any advice? I'm not in a union.

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Original poster
Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 14:34

Thanks Fudge. I'm in bits tbh. Could sit and cry but know I need to toughen up. At the end of the day I know I'm telling to truth and have to make that clear

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mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 14:38

I think he told them he had the money, so as a boss I would think he lost it not you.
Keep plugging he agreed he had the money.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 13/12/2019 14:38

Oh I can't imagine how you're feeling, it must be awful. But you know you're telling the truth and now you have to stand your ground with this light-fingered shitbox at work. Flowers

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Itsashame · 13/12/2019 14:40

He said he had the money and then changed his story. This tells the whole story to me. The company should be looking at him.

mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 14:45

Are any receipts missing in the book?
He knows he took the money, or lost it.
Ask why would he spend a day admitting to receiving the money, it is only a few weeks ago.
Also a one off event, he told you he would write a receipt, as per company policy.

mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 14:47

Oh and silence is a good defence, state your case and don't be tempted to do maybes.
You did X Y and Z.
He did ABC.

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 14:59

The receipt isn't written by him. A cash list would be filled out and handed to cash office with the money and they then issue the receipt.

He said he thought he'd put this on my desk then said he'd check at home. Told the director and my job share he had looked and couldn't find it then changed his account entirely and said he was getting mixed up with when he collected money just over a month previously.

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adaline · 13/12/2019 15:06

Do the people in the cash office know anything about it?

mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 15:10

Did anyone see you go to his office with the money?
What bag was it in.
Go through the moment you had the money, till you handed it too him.
Writing it out sometimes reminds you that you passed someone.

PrettyPurse · 13/12/2019 15:20

What is the "cash list" ? Is that paperwork that he would fill in? If so where does he get it from?

Bunney2020 · 13/12/2019 16:16

If he initially thought he had cashed it wouldn't it be worth exploring with the cash office? Surely their receipts are carbon copied / saved?

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 16:25

Cash office have no record of it so it wasn't received by them.

We share an office so if was just handed to him.

I printed the form and gave it to him.

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NotExactlyHappyToHelp · 13/12/2019 16:26

I work in a cash office and our security is tight. If someone had paid money in we would issue a receipt to them and keep a copy too. The place is also crawling with cctv.

If someone entered to pay money in and was issued a receipt it would all be on camera. There would also be a electronic record of the money on the computer system.

coconuttelegraph · 13/12/2019 16:27

It sounds like he either cocked up and can't remember what he did with the money or he took it. Why do you think they are more likely to believe him than you?

Difficult to say what your employer will do with two conficting versions of events. Do yor remember the specifics of when you gave it to him, anything you can remember might help your case although of course neither of you can prove anything

FriedasCarLoad · 13/12/2019 16:30

Presumably IT would be able to find a record of you printing the form?

Not much, I know, but every little helps.

IsolaPribby · 13/12/2019 16:36

How long ago was this? As in how likely is he to have mixed it up in his head?

Did you print off a blank form for him to fill out, or did you print out the filled in form?

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 16:36

I have hoped that IT may be an option but it doesn't prove anything really does it?

It's not that I think they will believe him over me just that there are now two conflicting versions of events. The fact I'm under investigation full stop is what's upset me.

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marchingonwithmother · 13/12/2019 16:38

The form doesn't prove anything as such but it does show that you intended to pay cash into the office on the date you've said you did. If you were going to steal it why would you do that?

I'd have a really good search for it. I think he's put it in a drawer/file and forgotten about it

coconuttelegraph · 13/12/2019 16:38

Presumably IT would be able to find a record of you printing the form?

Is that possible? Does it work for Word forms?

Gazelda · 13/12/2019 16:39

They have no choice but to investigate you. Even if they believe your version of events (which they probs lay do) his conflicts so they have to do a full investigation to be able to evidence to him that he's been treated fairly.

As he's changed his story, it would amaze me if they believe him over you. Particularly if you can find proof that the form was printed. It's another small piece of evidence to support your timeline.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 13/12/2019 16:40

What did you print the form from? Surely you have a copy of that?

PuppyMonkey · 13/12/2019 16:43

Is there anyone at all in the office who might have been there when you handed the money over? That might have thought “ooh, that’s the Christmas do money being handed in” etc?

Have I missed who the two other members of staff potentially being called in are?

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 16:43

It was printed from our intranet. All forms are online. I specifically remember this because he said he didn't know where to find me and it irritated me that he couldn't just log on and do a search like everyone else does.

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Namechange31 · 13/12/2019 16:45

It's only the two of us that share an office. He has said now that he knows nothing of this money however and he was def there when it was brought in. That bit should be backed up by the staff who brought it through.

It was the two people that handed it in to our office who I assume will have been asked to give their evidence also.

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OxfordCat · 13/12/2019 16:47

You absolutely and 100% need representation here and for your meeting. You need to organise this ASAP. What is the industry? Is there a Union you can join? Don't worry if you're not a paid up member- they will help you. Or ACAS has been suggested.

Do NOT try to organise your evidence or represent yourself at any meetings without this support.