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Why do public sector workers vote Tory?

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Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 08:21

Yes another thread questioning why people vote a certain way. I work in the public sector & have been affected by the cuts over the past 9 years. I've seen so many services vanish overnight, I've seen the impact of such cuts as well as benefits reduction policies have had on the vulnerable. Personally I had a pay freeze for 8 years & feel my career has stalled partly due to lack of opportunities now due to the shrunken public sector.
So for me voting for the Tories would be like a turkey voting for Christmas, but I know some people in the PS will vote Tory. Why?

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Finfintytint · 12/12/2019 08:31

I think many PS people vote Tory because it keeps them in work with all the issues that come with poverty and vulnerability.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/12/2019 08:34

Because the public sector is funded by the private and when the economy is decimated by the marxist fantasies of some then the public sector will suffer as well.

LeekMunchingSheepShagger · 12/12/2019 08:35

Because Corbyn’s an evil terrorist of course.

That was sarcasm btw.

orangeteal · 12/12/2019 08:40

Im public sector but work in a very left leaning profession within it so have always worked in anti-Tory environments, don't know anyone who would vote Tory. If it's not Labour or Green, it's Lib Dem.

Oh I actually I lie I worked with one brexiteer who probably voted Tory, but she is near retirement (old school, relies on her DH for opinions, not saying all older people are like this, my parents aren't) and thinks immigrants ruin the country etc etc and is quite out of touch generally. She is comfortably off and probably didn't equate our budget cuts with the Tories and instead would blame immigrants and benefits!

Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 08:44

@ChardonnaysDistantCousin how? (Not being snarky, genuinely interested in how the private funds the public) and how is that impacted by reduced Gov.t funding for public sector?

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Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 08:46

@Finfintytint really? I think at one point I could possibly agree, but I have seen services for the vulnerable reduce/disappear. Even for 'priority' vulnerable such as DV victims.

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ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/12/2019 08:47

How what?

A reduced economy means the income the government receives shrinks, so there is less money to go around and less money for the public sector.

Redlocks28 · 12/12/2019 08:47

I don’t really get it either. Most of the teachers I’ve worked with vote not-Tory, be it Labour, Lib Dem or Green. There is one though who is quite loud about voting Tory as she says she is middle class now she’s got married into a bit more money (to her complete tosser of a husband) and says that’s what you vote when you’re middle class.

Apparently.

Finfintytint · 12/12/2019 08:47

My comment was tongue in cheek. Wink

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/12/2019 08:47

How do you think the public service is funded? Where is money coming from?

Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 08:48

@orangeteal I would say the same about my current workplace & I can't imagine many in my place of work voting Tory, save for similar people that you've described.
However I know people in my personal life who work in PS & where I've previously worked (PS) who def vote Tory...

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Mintjulia · 12/12/2019 08:52

Maybe because they don’t want their children to be burdened with billions in debt stretching forever into the future.

That would motivate me.

Ijustwanttoretire · 12/12/2019 09:01

Oh I actually I lie I worked with one brexiteer who probably voted Tory, but she is near retirement...

Ah! So she is old enough to remember the 'olden days' of privitisation - the farcical British Rail, power cuts and strikes. A bit like me then. And do no Labour voters recall the reason that the Tories had to do the austerity thing? Because the last Labour Government literally left the country broke?

Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 09:01

@Mintjulia what's the current national debt level now? The last figure I saw was £1.08 trillion

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newmobile · 12/12/2019 09:02

Someone who worked in social services once told me that if everyone seen what he did in regards to immigration strain on the service they would all vote leave and vote tory. Whenever I have worked in public sector roles majority vote Labour only the ones coming up to retirement vote Tory. A few months ago when in public sector temporary role we set up a foodbank so will be surprised if anyone in that office will vote Tory.

blue25 · 12/12/2019 09:05

Many of my public sector colleagues are accruing amazing pensions. Heading for 45/50k a year on retirement.

They’re terrified Corbyn will wreck their pension.

Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 09:06

@Ijustwanttoretire I take a different view on that. I see the banking crisis & subsequent recession as the cause of the debt rather than solely Labour's fault.
(I'm aware Labour we're in power at the time but I don't see Labour as solely responsible for the poor regulation. And no one has been more openly supportive of the bankers than the Tories)

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CluelessNewMama · 12/12/2019 09:07

Because they think that Labour spending will ruin the economy and leave the country in debt but don’t seem to realise (or care?) that national debt has risen considerably under the Conservatives.

So it turns out that all of the misery caused by austerity was pointless after all. Just cutting spending doesn’t clear national debt, money actually needs to be generated and for that to happen we need investment in the economy.

Baaaahhhhh · 12/12/2019 09:10

*Many of my public sector colleagues are accruing amazing pensions. Heading for 45/50k a year on retirement.

They’re terrified Corbyn will wreck their pension*

This - There hasn't mean much mentioned of how nationalisation is going to decimate pensions. State and Private pensions invest heavily in many of the utilities that Corbyn is targetting.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/12/2019 09:11

It's never Labour's fault, is it?

And the conservatives were not supporting of the bankers, they had to keep the whole banking sector afloat, because if that goes, then the whole public funding goes too because the economy goes to shit.

Look, it's tempting to think the money is coming form somewhere and it will keep coming and it's all warm and fuzzy because that how we want it and it's always someone else fault and the Tories eat orphans for breakfast but it's not that simple.

Moonmelodies · 12/12/2019 09:11

I expect they believe that things would be worse under any other administration, despite the promises.

Fifteenthnamechange · 12/12/2019 09:13

@newmobile I can sort of see that point. Whilst I don't believe immigration is the cause of strain on a lot of service I can see it might have done for CS. However I think overall the demand for CS will increase when deprivation increases & support service fall away generally. Plus CS is an easy department for local authorities to cut due to lack of visibility/advocacy for the service.

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FrostythefeckinSnowman · 12/12/2019 09:14

I love all the Daily Mail/Torygraph lies being re-hashed in this thread.

Some people think they understand economics but the posts on here reveal just how utterly clueless they really are. Hmm

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/12/2019 09:14

So it turns out that all of the misery caused by austerity was pointless after all. Just cutting spending doesn’t clear national debt, money actually needs to be generated and for that to happen we need investment in the economy.

How is a Corbyn/McDonnell government going to attract investment? Other than state one, which will have to be borrowed for? Raising taxes won't help attracting investment either.

orangeteal · 12/12/2019 09:14

@Ijustwanttoretire

Yes and same age as my parents and many other people I work with who view things very differently. Thankfully.

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