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Scottish constituency. Who to vote for

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AShaveAndAHarecutHalfPrice · 07/12/2019 07:53

Anyone else in this position?

My constituency is currently held by the SNP, but the majority has dropping from approx 14000 to 2000.

I do not rate this MP - he has been largely invisible as a member (didn’t turn up at hustings).

However, I do like a LOT of the policies Nicola Sturgeon has delivered at Holyrood, and it seems -independence apart - a good fit for someone wanting moderate left wing policies.

I am not pro independence, but am prepared to put that aside for now in favour of their social policies and decent work as an opposition party in Westminster and fight indyref2 at another time.

I’m a natural labour voter - voting for the party which most represents help for people much worse off than me seems the just thing to do.

Yet their infighting is worrisome and the lack of leadership on Brexit is infuriating. I’ve got no clear idea of what Labour will deliver and who will be calling the shots.

I’m a remainer.

I find Johnson hideously untrustworthy and do not want a Tory government.

I thing the best I can fight for is a hung parliament, though.

So - who do I vote for?

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awaynboilyurheid · 08/12/2019 15:49

Another one in a voting dilemma too, I have always been a Labour voter but think Corbyn is a poor excuse for a leader, not to take stand on brexit was worrying. I am strongly pro union and believe the SNP have failed to prove their worth especially in education and health, as I read somewhere Scotland’s economy would become like Greece without sunshine if we leave the UK. I could never vote Tory. I like Jo Swinson , although I seem to be in the minority, at least she was brave enough to take an anti brexit stance and call a halt to the madness inflicted on us by Cameron.
Who do I vote for? No idea at the moment, in the same boat as the op.

TildaKauskumholm · 08/12/2019 17:03

My area is a choice between SNP and Conservative, will be voting for the latter. Scottish independence is a big no in my opinion.

UnholyStramash · 08/12/2019 18:00

Truthfully I think not voting SNP because you don’t want a 2nd Independence ref is a red herring. It seems to be like the Indy cause has gained momentum hugely since the Brexit vote. Look at the huge numbers who marched in various Scottish cities this year. People are moving over all the time. What I’m trying to say is the demand for a 2nd ref won’t go away. Not voting SNP might give you a crap Tory MP. Let’s face it, most of the ones in the last WM parliament were utterly crap. They seemed incapable of independent thought, no memorable speeches, no memorable motions or causes. What did they do in their constituencies apart from rant about the SNP? They tended to vote with whoever was PM at the time. None of them held the WM government to account or spoke up for Scotland.

A dispassionate look at the issues shows Scotland will be shafted by Brexit, either no deal or Johnson’s deal. It would be better for all you fencesitters to vote for the MP that would best represent you in WM. that is unlikely to be a Tory MP. You’d almost be better with the LibDems much as that catches in my craw. In most constituencies Labour is probably too too far down to make a difference.

AnSNP MP would at least speak up for the people in Scotland. There are already enough people wanting an Independence ref that the issue won’t go away even if SNP didn’t have any gains next week. Having an Indy ref will at least give all you no voters a chance to be heard.

One last point, the SNP didn’t say once in a generation. This is all out of context and meaningless. Somebody, possibly NS but I’m unsure, did add ‘unless there’s a major material change in circumstances’. The Brexit vote has to be the biggest ever material change facing all 4 countries of the U.K. Brexit especially a no deal one will still be causing havoc to all our finances in 10, 15 yrs time. Leaving the EU isn’t the end of it. It’ll go on an on.

Personally I think we need both refs. People know an awful lot more about Brexit and the EU than they did in 2016. People seem to have changed their minds. They would now be making a more informed decision. Ditto too for Indy. Like others I am so very tired of it all, especially the uncertainty but people do need another chance to decide both issues now there is more information available. However, a No vote on Indy now we have all this further info is likely to put the matter to rest now. Lots of people will be disappointed but the SNP will lose momentum if that happened. Ditto for Brexit- if there was another in/out vote and Leave won by a larger margin and in all 4 countries Remain voters would be more likely to take it on the chin and make the best of it.

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snowybaubles · 08/12/2019 19:00

My area is a choice between SNP and Conservative, will be voting for the latter. Scottish independence is a big no in my opinion.

A vote for SNP doesn't mean independence though. I think too many people will be voting SNP because they want independence rather than looking at the bigger picture.

ICouldBeVotingTactically · 08/12/2019 19:19

Right now, my personal position is that I want to stay in the EU. I have already voted by post.

I've never been fully aligned with any party or even any candidate. However, I'm past caring about who voted for or against which issues in the past: I'm not marking their past performance, I'm casting a vote to safeguard the future of my country.

Everything else takes second place, this time round, for me (thus requiring me to ignore some of the more batshit policies of the party I have voted for!)

theotherfossilsister · 08/12/2019 20:30

Really struggling to decide here too. Last time voted SNP as in a different constituency where it was a straight race between them and the Tory, and I liked the MP we had.

This time I'm confused. MP doesn't seem to care much, but is a three way race between Labour, SNP and Tories. I was bought up Labour, but am also the grand daughter of someone who fled the Holocaust so struggling over whether I can, in good conscience, vote for Corbyn.

Laughterisbest · 09/12/2019 09:41

In all my voting years, this election has caused me the most angst

Same here.

I seriously considered spoiling my ballot paper as I would never not turn up.

However I will vote, for the party I disagree with least about certain issues rather than actually agreeing with many of their policies. It's the most negative I've ever been about an election and that's saying something.

Chemenger · 09/12/2019 11:39

Just got a leaflet from the Tories claiming only they can beat the SNP in my constituency. We have a sitting Labour MP who comfortably beat the SNP last time. Can the Tories just not help themselves, are they compelled to lie like their leader?

DeckTheHalls2019 · 09/12/2019 11:46

However I will vote, for the party I disagree with least about certain issues rather than actually agreeing with many of their policies. It's the most negative I've ever been about an election and that's saying something.

Thanks for posting that, it really helps and thanks to @kikisparks too for posting the list, I already knew everything on it, except the £2000 charge to those poor families but seeing it all listed and knowing I could add another dozen to it without having to think too hard just brings it all home.

Between this thread and the C4 debate with the woman (can't remember her name - she had to put her specs on because she was tearing up) I'll be voting SNP.

I think there will be another indyref regardless so it really doesn't matter. I'll deal with that when it happens.

SunsetBoulevard3 · 09/12/2019 15:58

The trouble is a vote for SNP is a vote for Labour really, since they are determined to watch each others backs.

AShaveAndAHarecutHalfPrice · 09/12/2019 16:09

@sunsetboulevard3 given my vote is between both of them I can live with that.

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