How mich do you think an inhaler is in US ?

[Barsh]

Go on...guess.

Sorry but just to correct - epipens cast $650 -$700 not $900 like I said previously.
My friend was involved in a campaign because the epipens used to be $100 or less then shot up in price making it unaffordable for many. They weren’t covered by insurance either. this was a couple of years ago so I’m not sure what the situation is now.

I'm shocked that American people are so against healthcare, their mind set must be completely different to ours. Is it that they don't trust the government to run hospitals etc? Are there any American's on this thread who can shed light on it?

Ah America! The land where the "haves" will have and have and where the "have nots" or "need helps" can go fuck themselves. Kinda like the Tory idea of Britain.... 🤔

The American medical system is utterly disgusting. How can a "civilised" society think that it's ok? It is not ok.

I can't look up the NHS cost of an EpiPen because I don't know the drug name.

But a 10mm vial of insulin starts at £7.48 (there are many varieties)
bnf.nice.org.uk/medicinal-forms/insulin.html

And what does it cost US citizens?

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy782

It's a bit tricky with epipens as there is a bit of a shortage at the moment but I think it's about £40 value normally? but people can get them prescription cost of £8 . I think you have to pay for extra pens.

One adult strength Epipen is approx £26.

Schools here can now buy stock epipens to keep instead of nhs having to issue multiple ones to every child. I can buy one for £30. Much much cheaper for nhs to buy. Compare that to the $600-700 in America quoted by pp

Even with insurance people often have extras to pay. The medical bankruptcies are not just the uninsured.

But yes, there is currently a supply issue which may affect the cost.

$30,000 for a baby? That’s if you’re lucky. I have posted before about my friends who had twins which were born 8 weeks prematurely and had PICU stays. They will still be paying off just the part of the bill that their insurance didn’t cover, nearly $2million, long after the kids are at college.

and this is the real cost

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47491964

Surely the point is that although state sponsored healthcare is a massive financial burden in the UK it is also a great leveller. Free at point of use and paid for though taxation. Being state run it (ahem) avoids profiteering by private companies and is fantastic value for money. Without good health we are nothing.

Many moons ago I happened to be on a locked ward in the US where patients were choosing treatment based on cost not quality. It was terrifying.

If I can't afford salbutamol for my son in the US then he may die. He can access it at no direct charge in the UK and may therefore live.

All hail the NHS

Making money out of sick people is big business

Yes my friend married an American and went to live in the states, but his treatment for a pre existing condition meant that they came back to the UK after a few years because they couldn’t afford the treatment.

I’d love to know what an inhaler costs. My mum has 15 in her bedroom because the gp changed her prescription but hasn’t cancelled the inhaler (and various other medications) despite us ringing them several times. Such a waste of NHS money.

What's chilling is how many people are willing to vote Tory and bring about the US style system in the UK.

As for Brexit: many people voted for it because they wanted the £350bn or whatever lie it was funds for the NHS. Brexit supporters still like the NHS even if they support a policy which will bring about its demise!

Our insurance for a family of four was $2100 a month.

Fucking hell. I presume you also had an excess to pay if you claimed?

We lived in the US for a while. Insurance came with a job package but covered everything. I had a baby there and we used medical services at other times when necessary.
The bills going through the Insurance were of course incredibly high. When I looked at the itemised bills, it was shocking how much things were charged at, and how every single little item was noted.
In amongst the huge, huge figures I remember noticing charges like single plasters (used after bloods being taken, for example) being $19, and rubber gloves used by the nurse at $20.
Our wonderful NHS is still envied by the American friends we know and yet is woefully under appreciated by most Brits.
Or maybe we do, but don't toot loudly enough about just how lucky we are to have it.

@Barsh

Are you trying to encourage people to vote for LABOUR/CORBYN???

The birth of my second dd cost $25k 18 years ago, it was a natural straightforward delivery drug free! Luckily I only had to pay $100 and the insurance picked up the rest

Surely the point is that although state sponsored healthcare is a massive financial burden in the UK it is also a great leveller. Free at point of use and paid for though taxation. Being state run it (ahem) avoids profiteering by private companies and is fantastic value for money. Without good health we are nothing.

More than that, it is vastly more efficient. The NHS may not be the best in the world (because we don't fund it well) but huge economies of scale mean it is the most cost effective.

The US spends much more per person for comparable (worse on many measures) health outcomes. Huge amounts of overtesting and overmedicating occur, with negative outcomes for patients. Healthcare has very large fixed costs and very poor market information- it doesn't work well as unregulated capitalism, even if you ignore the human cost.

I, for one, think it's a shame to see the NHS go. Still, not much we can do about it, eh?

Sorry missed something.... is there a program about this?

What's chilling is how many people are willing to vote Tory and bring about the US style system in the UK.

Absolute rubbish.

Nobody at all is suggesting introducing a US style healthcare system in the U.K. I’m no supporter of the Conservative party, so I am reluctant to defend them, but that is not and has never been their policy.

The Tories have been in government for 27 of the last 40 years, during which time they have underfunded the NHS. Criticise them for that, by all means, but don’t accuse them of wanting to abolish it because that simply is not true.

Depends entirely on what kind of inhaler. Salbutamol inhalers like Ventolin cost about £5.50 - £7. I bought some online when my last surgery messed up my prescriptions. However, some combination preventer inhalers cost well over a hundred pounds at cost price. In the US, some inhalers cost about $500 on average.

Haven't seen the programme or whatever it is, so how much IS an inhaler!?!