Why Do men become gynocologists?

[Blankiefan]

I have to have some treatment and all of the gynocologists I can pick from are men. I don't trust male gynocologists (no bad history just bias). It'd help me to understand good reasons why some men choose this specialism.

As I see it, I have an ear so I can understand what it's like when someone pokes their finger in it. I get the experience of having an ear and have an interest in furthering medicine into it. Buy why are male doctors interested in women's genitals? Is it some deep respect for their mothers? A peculiar interest in otherness? I don't see the motivation.

I entirely accept on an intellectual level that most of them aren't in it for kicks and that being elbow deep in hoo hoo all day isn't erotic but I really don't get what motivation got them there.

Does anyone have any insight?

I went to my appointment today. Bearing the more productive comments in mind gave me more context. I am pretty pragmatic so ideas like the doc preferring seeing healthier patients, a mix of activities, the pay, etc were helpful and not things I'd have thought of on my own.

Next step is either surgery under General Anaesthetic with him (Private) or back to my (female) NHS doc for a long outpatient course of treatment. The helpful comments here have given me food for thought and helped me frame the question. I'm thinking I'll go with the surgery. Thanks to those who have provided insight.

Glad you found the thread helpful Blankiefan, even if it did go off on a bit of a tangent!

Hope your treatment is successful whichever route you decide to go down

Glad you found the thread helpful OP.

If anyone had a look at the article I posted women ARE dominating obgyn now, 80-90% of trainees are women and it increases yearly- so it’s very possible men could disappear entirely from the field in a few decades.

I’ve had both and they were both excellent. Dhs relative is under a female urologist.

I’m drawn to the digestive system, if I was dr I would have been drawn to that field.

I get the impression that gynae work doesn't require long hours because macho doctors fancy it that way. It's because things like childbirth don't reliably happen on a 9-5 schedule and hospitals want staff who can be on call for a 3 am emergency.

That doesn't mean that individuals have to work long hours. They can still employ people part time. It's just easier not to.

This OP's odd.

Surely midwives have to commit to those long hours too and they are overwhelmingly female

Surely midwives have to commit to those long hours too and they are overwhelmingly female

No they don't have to work long hours at all and many are part-time.

Call me odd but I prefer a Male doctor. For me the facts are given from what they have learnt not what they have experienced personally

Call me odd but I prefer a Male doctor.

Oh you naughty woman! I’m waiting for all those posters that enjoy calling women bigots, to round on you now. 😉 I wonder how long it will take?

What? Surely they start training and find the medical side fascinating? It never occurred to me to see Obst and Gynae as sexual. They are dealing with problems with reproductive health.
Probably an awful lot of doctors have not got personal experience of being treated in their field - heart surgeons for example.

Call me odd but I prefer a Male doctor

Odd.

I have a friend who became a gynaecologist just because it was one of the career routes open to him - it was a practical decision based on career advancement, stress levels, placements available, etc, etc. It troubled him as he started to really hate the sight of vaginas and eventually swapped specialism!

*Surely midwives have to commit to those long hours too and they are overwhelmingly female

No they don't have to work long hours at all and many are part-time*

Because 12 or 13 hour shifts that often end up being much longer are notoriously not long hours 🙄

A lot are ob gynae specialists. Delivering babies is kind of exciting. Bringing life into the world. Men get a kick out of that just as much as women.
Then they end up doing gynae too and maybe being better at that or liking the less erratic hours so end up just doing gynae.

I've committed the worst mumsnet sin and haven't RTFT, so somebody might have posted this already.

Those posters assuming that the working hours would be better should read (or listen to the audio book) of This Is Going To Hurt by Adam Kay. The junior doctors and registrars are as overworked as drs in other areas of medicine.

Because 12 or 13 hour shifts that often end up being much longer are notoriously not long hours

I meant that they don't have to work 60 to 80 hours a week. I wouldn't see a 12 or 13 hour shift in itself as a problem.

The same reason a woman chooses it i can imagine 🤔

Why does anyone go into anything? Most people just fall into things. I work in planning, which wasn’t planned... Like others, I have had brilliant male and female gynae doctors. The only medical staff I have ever been bullied and belittled by have been women, but like a pp says, being a twat is an equal ops thing .

If you are going to ask the question could you not at least spell the medical specialty correctly? It does make me wonder if you even know what it is. I am tired of this witlessness.

I've been medically qualified for over 30 years and I have dealt with a lot of gynaecologists of both sexes in that time. To my knowledge, I have never met a sex offender but I have come across quite a lot of misogynists. The professor when I was a medical student clearly hated women - his female junior staff, students, midwives, nurses and of course his patients all suffered. But he held so much power nobody dared speak up. At the end of our placement he pulled me and one of my friends forwards and commented that we had received the highest marks in the group, before promptly docking us both 15% on the grounds that the consultant who had assessed us had "a soft spot for pretty girls" so must have over marked us. We couldn't possibly have just genuinely been the two top students in the class of course.I suspect he was personally responsible for quite a lot women who might otherwise have chosen Obs and gynae as a career taking different routes.
I don't think all, or even most men in that type of role are the same though - most are decent peoplecwho find the subject interesting and a way to make a good living. But nor do I think he is unique.
Times have changed, and continue to change though. With over 50% of medical school entrants now female, the male domination of even the surgical specialties is being eroded. But it takes time, given that it is around 15 years from entering medical school to becoming a consultant and a consultant career lasys over 30 years. I suspect there will still be a male bias in a lot of hospital specialties though, until someone figures out a way to make them a lot more family friendly or women cease to be the primary carers in most families.

MAFIL WOW! How maddening. I’m angry for you!

Gynaecologists. Who knows? Because it's a medical specialty that's interesting. Nothing sinister. Why do female nurses specialise in male GUrinary wards?

Passthecherrycoke it was 1987 and I am still angry, but almost as angry with myself as him. I just stood there and took it. But then it was a matter of survival. Had I protested I would have been failed and had to do it all again. Like everyone else except the favoured ( exclusively white, male) few, I was terrified. We just kept our heads down as much as possible and hoped for the best. A lot of my training was on the same lines, but that Obs & Gynae module was by far the worst. The midwives were all hideous to us too - probably because we were below them in the pecking order and they were being so badly treated themselves, but I couldn't quite see that at the time.
It is incredible to think that this type of behaviour was seen as "normal" even so recently.

Why would someone be a cancer specialist if they don't have cancer?