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Buying PlayStation for Christmas, anyone help me?

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Wonderingwhyme · 24/11/2019 16:57

I don’t know much about them, dc have decided against Xbox which I agree as most of the games are higher age ratings. So looking at a PlayStation... is there only one ‘type’? I’m not sure what I’m looking for?

I’m hoping to try to get a Black Friday deal so want to work out what we need first? Are they digital or disk? I don’t want a just digital one?

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dementedpixie · 24/11/2019 20:46

Theres a PS4 and PS4 Pro

GonnaBeMaayy · 24/11/2019 20:46

Like PP said - there’s a PS4 pro. But I would avoid that as it is made for 4K tv

Wonderingwhyme · 24/11/2019 20:48

Ok makes it easier thanks. Does anyone know who’s likely to have a decent deal for Black Friday?

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olderthanilookapparently · 24/11/2019 20:54

Look at Cex they give you a 1 year guarantee with a second hand PS4 and you could probably get a few games for the same price as a new one to go with it

CactusAndCacti · 24/11/2019 21:31

I can only speak for last year but Game, Argos and Currys all had good deals. We managed to get the best deal for us at Smyths.

We went for the Pro to get the 1TB of memory, but it was a very good deal. It came with one controller, and then I got another 3 wireless controllers - again I shopped around and the best deal I found last year was at Curry's. We then have a charging docking station which I just got from Argos.

Games we tend to pick up at Cex unless it is Fifa 20

As for becoming defunct, we still have dh's original Playstation 1 and we only put the playstation 2 away because we got the PS4.

Have a look at what prices are at the moment and what bundles are available (console plus game) so you can get a better idea of what to look for next week.

Sphiinx · 25/11/2019 01:06

I'm not sure how I stumbled upon this post considering I've never visited this site, but I thought I'd make an account to help out here as I'm a bit of a nerd.

As others have said, the Xbox One and PS4 are largely similar in terms of games and availability. As were the Xbox 360 and PS3. It mainly comes down to preference, friend groups, exclusive games, etc. Much like preferring iPhone to Android and vice versa.

You won't have to worry about the console "not working" when the PS5 comes out, this will not happen. As others have said, older consoles continue to work for as long as you look after them. The only thing that stops working over time is Internet services like online multiplayer etc, but that is absolutely years away for the PS4. It's still a top, popular console, and will be for years to come.

To set it up, it's one HDMI cable in the TV, and a power plug - Boom. You're in.

There are many accessories and games out for the PS4 that are incredibly good, and also incredibly cheap now, it's a good time to buy. You can pick up some of the best games in the world brand new for £8 or less very often. And places like Cex sell preowned games for even less, as does Ebay.

As for variants of the PS4, you won't have to worry which one you buy. They will all play exactly the same games, whether you get the original PS4, the "Slim" PS4, or the PS4 Pro, etc. What I will suggest however, is buying preowned. New consoles are extortionate this close to Christmas - and bluntly put - a PS4 is no longer worth the £250 it is selling for. I buy and sell consoles frequently, and the average price for a preowned PS4 console on sites like Facebook marketplace and Gumtree are £120. I've often found bundles for below £150 online which are in great condition with a stack of games and controllers etc. Just be sure to ask for a working demonstration before you're satisfied with the purchase of anything preowned.

Final note: I've never used them, but there are parental controls on the PS4, as well as spending locks etc. It's easy to use, intuitive, an excellent console, and will still be powerful and relevant for many years yet.

Hope this helps.

Wonderingwhyme · 25/11/2019 06:29

Thanks for coming on with that info I really appreciate it, I’m not remotely a gamer so I’m struggling! With getting a pre owned console, aren’t they more likely to go wrong? I won’t know how old it is? What about buying through game second hand, more security?

How do the controllers charge if you don’t have the dock if they are wireless? Replaceable batteries? I will definitely need 2 controllers. I will definitely be looking for second hand games (not fifa 20!)

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BikeRunSki · 25/11/2019 06:39

The controllers plug into sockets to charge, via cables, just like a mobile phone.

AllStarBySmashMouth · 25/11/2019 07:41

The controllers are USB and they plug into the front of the console to charge, so you can play with them connected to the console or wirelessly assuming they have enough charge.

dementedpixie · 25/11/2019 07:56

They can plug into a phone micro USB cable to charge. It doesnt need to be plugged into the console to charge, just whichever plug the cable is attached to

Motorbike311 · 25/11/2019 08:49

Get a PS4 Pro off of ebay for £180-£200, make sure you get the Pro! This issue with the other PS4's is that due to the large files and updates the regular PS4 "run hot" this means that for large games like the Call of duty's the normal PS4's require the cooling fan to run constantly, this fan is incredibly loud and you'll hear it in another room.

I had the regular PS4 for a day before i returned it for the Pro as the fan sounds like a plane taking off! You can google the issue.

PS5 isn't until end of next year anyway.

Wonderingwhyme · 25/11/2019 13:09

So a second hand pro? I always worry buying stuff like this off eBay though.... maybe game might have some? I don’t have cex anywhere near me.

Good news about the controllers... thanks.

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MizetteOfTheGreyx · 25/11/2019 14:29

As has been mentioned before, the PS4 and Xbox One are very similar in most respects. Sony and Microsoft are direct competitors in this space. Both companies brought out high powered updates to their consoles around the same time, namely the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X. Both these updates essentially brought more powerful processors to the table and enabled 4k video output. However, if you don’t have a 4k TV and/or don’t intend to get one, there’s not much point splashing out for these versions. The only other major difference is that the Pro has a 1 Terrabyte hard drive whereas the original has a 500 Gigabyte drive (half the size). You need the storage space to store game files, either the full games when downloaded digitally, or files which are installed from the physical disc versions. Either way, there’s plenty of space to get started and you can also expand this storage using a USB thumb drive if you ever need it (although there are some compatibility considerations if you ever get that far).

Assuming you’ve settled on Playstation. There are only the two versions worry about if you are buying new. You will either get the standard PS4 (known as the Slim) or the PS4 Pro. However, if you buy second hand, this brings the original PS4 model into play. There are actually a handful of different versions of this as they updated the chassis a couple of times. These models can come in both 500GB and 1TB versions, but you may need to be mindful of which version you are actually picking up as there are some hardware differences between them which could impact both their age and reliability.

In terms of accessories, it won’t matter which console version you have.

Controllers are wireless to play and are charged using a standard USB micro socket (like many mobile phones). There are 2 USB ports on the console itself and all controllers come with a USB cable. You can also charge the controllers using standard USB phone chargers or by connecting to a PC USB socket. If the controllers are plugged directly into the console, they can be used to play even if the batteries are dead.
Games come either on a disc or can be purchased digitally. There are some games which are only available as digital downloads. Once you purchase a game digitally, your Playstation account stores your purchase, so the game can be safely deleted from the console and re-downloaded without having to re-purchase.

Sony have a subscription service (PS Plus) which is required if you want to play games online. In addition to this functionality, it also gives you access to a small number of games for free each month (lists are updated monthly). It’s also worth noting that some games are only for online-multiplayer and as such are not worth buying if you don’t have the subscription. There are also other games which require an active internet connection in order to play, they don’t necessarily require the subscription, but they store game information online and are therefore not really playable unless the console is connected to the internet.

Again, as mentioned before, the launch of the new PS5 which is expected next November, will not stop the PS4 from working. PS4 is among the best selling games consoles of all time and Sony won’t be alienating its user-base for several years yet. Typically, when a new Playstation comes out, you will get many games being launched on both platforms for a period of time, but even so, there are thousands of PS4 games already in existence which won’t be going anywhere (if anything they’ll just get cheaper!). It’s also worth noting that the PS5 is expected to be backwards-compatible with previous Playstation games, so if you did ever upgrade to the PS5, the old PS4 games should still run on it.

The Black Friday deals are already running at many retailers including Amazon, Game, PC World, etc. You can pick up a standard PS4 Slim bundle for around £250 and a PS4 Pro bundle for around £300. It’s possible that better deals may crop up in the Amazon flash sales on Black Friday or Cyber Monday, but these will go super-fast and probably shouldn’t be relied on. The bundles tend to include a game or two, depending on which games they put in (incidentally, the PS5 price has recently been floated at around $499 so expect it to be about £450+ when it launches and that will be with no games or accessories thrown in). If you are intending on buying a second controller as well, it might be worth keeping an eye out for bundles which include additional controllers as this might be cheaper, but beware that some retailers (including Game) sometimes bundle in their own 3rd party controllers instead of an official Playstation one. These tend to be far inferior products and not really worth owning.

MyBatteryisLow · 25/11/2019 15:04

Hey there, I just saw this thread and thought you could use some help. I've been playing on games consoles for 20 years, specifically PlayStation, and have some advice for you.

The PlayStation 4 is an excellent games console with a library of thousands of games both on disc and available for download. Granted there are many with high age ratings, but there are just as many that are child friendly. (I can recommend some games if you like?).

There isn't much difference between the PS4 and Xbox one as they all essentially have the same games except for some console exclusives (e.g. the Xbox doesn't have Uncharted, The Last of Us or Little big planet).

All versions of the PS4 have a disc drive but some have different storage options such as 500GB or 1TB of local storage.

You can put parental restrictions on the console, but if the child is past the age of 15 I'd probably be less strict in terms of those restrictions.

I'd also like to clear up some misconceptions about gaming whilst I'm at it:

Violent games will not make your child violent in any way, and will have little impact on their personality. This is just a myth spread by media outlets, and scientific studies show that gaming does not harm a child's personality or mental stability.

But, if your child is easily impressionable or suffers from personality disorders then I'd suggest talking to your GP or their specialist about what they should and shouldn't play.

I would personally recommend the PlayStation 4, it will most likely recieve updates and game releases for another 3 years despite the release of the PS5 next year. This is because the PS4 was one of the most successful games consoles ever released.

gamerchick · 25/11/2019 15:17

Violent games will not make your child violent in any way, and will have little impact on their personality. This is just a myth spread by media outlets, and scientific studies show that gaming does not harm a child's personality or mental stability

I just want to pull up this point. I have also been gaming for 20 years and have had 3 kids. My youngest will NEVER be able to play violent video games. They Do have a marked change on his personality and they DO make him act violently IRL. A GP will not have the first clue on what games to play unless they game themselves, the responsibility lies with the parent, always.

MizetteOfTheGreyx · 25/11/2019 15:36

Violent games will not make your child violent in any way

This a very strong statement. It would probably be more correct to say that there have never been any conclusive studies which suggest that violent video gaming directly causes violent behaviour. In fact, if anything, violent video games have been seen as a healthy outlet which actually helps to reduce negative social behaviour because they are taking out normal human stresses on a game rather than other people around them. Often, following violent crime, journalists will discover that the perpetrator enjoyed violent video games and infer some sort of causality, whereas it is actually more likely that someone with an existing violent tendency is simply drawn to these types of games.

Having said that, there's a reason why games have age ratings and if your child is too young to understand the difference between right and wrong, the difference between games and reality or is sensitive to certain elements of a game, then it should be up to the parent or guardian to have the ultimate responsibility to control the content to which their child is exposed.

Pinkbonbon · 25/11/2019 16:54

There's a well known psychology study that found 'action' games were just as likely as violent ones to increase rates of violent actions in study participants straight afterwords.

It isn't about the violent content, its just people who are amped up are more likely to act out. So basically, mariocart or cod -should have the same outcome on the individual. Its about the adreneline.

LizGer · 25/11/2019 20:27

Like others have said there are currently two models of the ps4, the ps4 and ps4 pro (the latter slightly more powerful and thus more expensive.
Similarly the Xbox one has a base mode (Xbox one S) and a more powerful and more expensive Xbox one X. However there is now a cheaper iteration of the xbox, an all digital edition of the Xbox one S (with no disk drive games are download only) which is a bit cheaper ...and I think they will be selling the digital version in lidle for £129 soon.
Yes the new generation of playstation and xbox consoles will be out next year but both xbox and playstation will support the current consoles for at least 3 years after the release of the new ones, but of course the number of new games released on these systems will decline over that period... however games like fifa will continue to be released on the older consoles for 2-3 years for example.
I don't know how old your kids are but the playstation has more and better exclusive games over the xbox one but most of these are for more mature audiences.
Have you considered getting a pre owned console from somewhere like Game or CEX, they are guaranteed for 12 months and are a cheaper option especially if your concerned your kids will be asking for a ps5 in 2 years time!
Anyway sorry for the ramble hope it might help anyway.

gamerchick · 25/11/2019 21:02

Cex guarantee for 24 months.

Wonderingwhyme · 25/11/2019 21:18

Thanks everyone for your input, a lot of knowledge out there!

Yes I would consider second hand from game but not eBay. I don’t have a cex nearby but do have game.

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gamerchick · 25/11/2019 21:32

Then go with game. Make sure you keep the recipient.

Do not under any circumstances buy online from cex. You need to check everything in person. Just in case someone suggests it.

LizGer · 25/11/2019 22:15

Agreed, buying 2nd hand from Game is the safest bet.

Jeep2314 · 26/11/2019 04:42

I don't know how far the info has gone on this thread, sorry I've only just joined.

Yes the Ps5 will possibly launch end of 2020 (but i believe it's not a guarantee). It will certainly cost almost £500 on release. The choice of games for new consoles are always limited for the first few months.

There are 2 versions on the Ps4. The Ps4 and Ps4 Pro. The pro version is a huge improvement on the original version. It plays games on a higher frame rate (higher frame is better), the pro can run upto 60 frames per second(fps) the non pro version will not run higher than 30fps.it has faster processor more memory etc etc. In short I would buy the Pro over the original.

Just because Sony is going to release the Ps5 in a year or so does not mean the ps4 is dead. The Ps3 was released in 2006 and the last game for it was produced in 2018. The ps4 was released in 2013 so buy my calculations games will be produced for the Ps4 and Ps4 Pro well into 2025. So don't worry it's got plenty of life left in it.

Downloading software updates for your children so they can play on Christmas day is certainly a good idea, except for a couple of things. Firstly it depends on your Internet connection. If you have fibre it won't take much more than 10 to 30 minutes. Game will also need version updates and these can also take 30 to 40 minutes. All depends on the the download speeds you have. And secondly I think its better the kids do these as it'll teach them how to work the machine. Also the kids almost certainly know how to do this stuff far better than their perants, in most cases.

What's guaranteed if you won't see you kids all day on Xmas and for hours each day there after. They will love you for ever and they'll have a great time playing it.

My advise is to buy an extra controller as the Ps4 and Pro version pack normally only comes with one. Two is enough as there aren't many games that have more than 2 players on a single console. Buy a twin controller charging Dock. Personally I wouldn't buy the insurance cover the shop staff will try to sell you. I've had my ps4 since 2014 and it works fine. Controllers do break eventually. But they are cheep enough to replace. Don't buy second hand it'll more than likely end in tears. If anything was to go wrong with a new unit you've got the guarantee.

That's it. Good luck and have a Merry Christmas

Wonderingwhyme · 26/11/2019 06:08

Thanks again everyone. Can I just ask about the pro v the normal one.... people have mentioned a 4K tv. What is a 4K tv?! How would I know if I have one? I’m guessing I don’t! I bought it I think a year ago. Does the pro work without a 4K tv? I don’t plan on replacing this tv anytime soon unless it dies.....?

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Aramox · 26/11/2019 06:16

My top tip is when you set it up make sure you have a parent account and kids have their own user ids. You don’t need to game with your id but you do need that to set up parent controls and if they start using the main user id they will rack up progress on it and not change to a child one. Voice of bitter experience.

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