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Ex husband and new kitchen

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donotknowhownottomind · 17/11/2019 07:27

Ex moved out 19 months ago and we have been divorced for almost a year.

It was a horrible divorce - I divorced him due to emotional abuse mainly - and he does not speak to me at all. Any logistical message which I have to send him is never responded to - ever. Though he does read them and sometimes do what is suggested.

One of the worst things about our marriage was the fact that he would regularly subject me to very long silent treatments - we are talking weeks and weeks. It’s hardly surprising that having had the temerity to divorce him I am now dead to him 🙄.

The settlement meant that I got the family home and he got smaller assets, which put together roughly equalled the value of the house. He could have sold these and got somewhere suitable for him and the kids when they were with him, but instead he has been building a new property for him to live in for the past I don’t know how long, and living in another of his assets which is not suitable for the dc (teenagers).

So he has been coming to mine when the dc are home from school and cooking for them - while I am still at work. We never cross paths. The last time we came face to face was in February.

This has been ok but I have recently told him (by unanswered email) that it has to stop when he finishes his house - because I can see a situation where he either never finishes the house, or the dc don’t want to budge and he is still coming to mine months down the line.

The issue now is that after months of saving and planning and buying units and organising it all, and emptying the old one, I am having a new kitchen installed, to replace our very old and manky one.

Aibu not to want ex, who ignores me completely, to be using it when it is finished? Not always but he sometimes leaves a mess, I know he bangs pots and pans around but now we have a fragile induction hob, and he used to sometimes cut straight on to our wooden worktop (Angry) when we were together, but he better bloody not do that to the new ones being installed!

As is normal, all the effort has been made by me (am painting it as well), but he might even get to use it before I do - it will be ready to use on Tuesday afternoon.

Aibu to just want ex to go away and to claim what is now my space? Am I being petty?

Forgot to add that he very obviously got together with someone while we were forced to live in the same house for months during the divorce. It was extremely painful for me. I don’t know if they are still together, but he obviously moved on at the speed of light. Why, two years after this, is he going to be in my hard worked for kitchen which he essentially won’t give a shit about?

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Mix56 · 17/11/2019 10:26

Didn't you say he lives another property while house is being built? why can't they go there ?

AaaaaaarghhhWhereAreMyKeys · 17/11/2019 10:31

Agree, don’t let him use it. The chances are he’ll passively aggressively damage it, accidentally on purpose.

My ex spilt a cup of text over my new rug and just left it, didn’t even attempt to clean it up. Obvs it’s just a rug but don’t let that happen to your shiny new kitchen.

MarianaMoatedGrange · 17/11/2019 10:52

You’ve left a controlling husband and have now permitted your children to take over control.

Indeed. Boundaries, woman! boundaries.

I cannot believe you are still allowing this. Last time you posted you were told the same

Hopefully you'll take action this time.

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FraglesRock · 17/11/2019 11:05

Sit the kids down and explain this is how it is now
You've given dad a year and a half to provide somewhere for you all to meet.
He is not allowed in your house anymore.
Dad has been told of this and that he has to make new arrangements with you all.
If you don't bother moving from the settee/bed to see your dad then that is down to you and him, nothing to do with me.
If you let dad in I'll take away your key for a week.
Get a ring doorbell then you can see what's going on.
And try to be in the first week of change without telling anyone.

donotknowhownottomind · 17/11/2019 13:03

So after my email to ex he has messaged me (after ignoring most of my logistical messages about the kids over the months when I could have done with some support) to say I am using them as pawns, they need hot food and that is all he wants for them, and that they are not pets to be taken out.

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donotknowhownottomind · 17/11/2019 13:03

WTAF

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OakElmAsh · 17/11/2019 13:10

Don't start justifying your decision - if he wants them to have a hot meal, he figures out how to do that like a grown-up, without using your house.
Decision is final, end of. He is no longer spending any significant amounts of time in your house.

purplepalace · 17/11/2019 13:12

Nope i wouldn't allow ex across the threshold.

Over. My. Dead. Body.

Chesntoots · 17/11/2019 13:14

Reading this has given me the rage!

Don't engage - just repeat again that he is not to enter the house.

Follow it up with a solicitor's letter, get a camera fitted and tell the kids he is not to come in.

It's your house. He is still abusing you and if you let the kids dictate then they will be doing the same.

Get ANGRY!!! I'm frustrated even thinking about this...

MrGsFancyNewVagina · 17/11/2019 13:15

Send him a message to say ‘this is MY home and you don’t get a say in whether or not you have a right to enter it. If you try to enter it against MY wishes, I will take legal steps to prevent you’. I wouldn’t even mention the children as that argument will just go back and forth.

Oldraver · 17/11/2019 13:19

Ignore the emotional manipulation. Send him an email stating he not to enter your house, you will call the police if he does and seek a restraining order

RandomMess · 17/11/2019 13:21

Think I'd reply

"Fuck off, do not enter my home again"

IsAStormApproaching · 17/11/2019 13:28

The only reason he responded to this email is because you are taking the last bit of power and control you have allowed him to keep.
You may not cross paths etc but he is still taking charge of your safe space and swanning around your home you finance. He knows you would not particularly like this and this is why he is sticking firm on this.
He would not allow you the same acess to his brand new built from scratch home.
He will not respect this request and I think a lawyers letter to confirm your position is needed.
You may be "free" from him but he still has a level of control.
Take it back and allow yourself to move in properly.
Good luck OP Flowers

CallmeAngelina · 17/11/2019 13:30

Meh. Let him say/think what he likes.
Your decision stands.

MrGsFancyNewVagina · 17/11/2019 13:31

If you find yourself faltering, just imagine what it will be like working in your lovely new kitchen, knowing that it remains ‘uncontaminated’ by his presence. What a lovely clean feeling that would be.

timeisnotaline · 17/11/2019 13:40

Only reply by email. ‘All the emails I’ve sent regarding our children’s welfare and that’s the only one you reply to? It’s my house. You are not welcome. If all you wanted for them is hot food you’d have prioritised a place of your own to take them to. Work out plans to see them outside the house, you may no longer enter.’

I think you need to take the odd half day / work from home to make sure he doesn’t come in.

Mix56 · 17/11/2019 13:59

So now he responds to your emails, laughable.
reply,
"If you want to see your children you will need to make alternative plans to do so in your own home/emsewhere.
The children are aware of this, You can make your own arrangements going forward"

dreichwinter · 17/11/2019 14:21

He really doesn't want to give up his control does he.
Don't get drawn into this.
Repeat that he isn't to access your house.
He is to make arrangements outside the house.
He is an adult he can sort out food.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/11/2019 14:24

I wouldn’t engage. He’s trying to hook you in. I’d just reply. “You are forbidden from entering my home. Providing our children hot food on your contact time is your responsibility.”

MitziK · 17/11/2019 14:59

Change the locks again. The children stay at homework club afterschool if they aren't going to him. Or the 13 year old can meet him in McDonalds.

Get a Ring doorbell and an internal camera or five (place in the kitchen overlooking the countertop and hob so it's obvious if he deliberately removes a strategically placed cutting board to cut direct on the surface or slams a pan onto a glass hob - one in your bedroom, etc, as it's almost certain that he investigates everything - a particularly useful thing is having a slightly enticing box in your bedroom that might contain interesting papers - with a lock and the key left on the opposite side of the bed, so the footage shows him reaching over it, taking the key and opening the box).

These aren't babies or toddlers that it would be seen as reasonable to keep in their own home for contact. They are teenagers, more than capable of making their own way to and from contact - and of feeding themselves, even if only from a takeaway, rather than having somebody else cook for them.

Changing the locks and refusing new keys takes away the children's responsibility/having to say 'Mum says you can't come in'. Telling the youngest that this is so they aren't forced to decide what to do - but they are welcome to meet him after school and spend time together outside your house - is fine.

Or, of course, now it's 100% yours, you could just sell and move

BarbedBloom · 17/11/2019 15:07

I would simply be stating, this is not up for discussion. If you enter the house again, I will be taking legal action. Then don't engage further.

You have been posting about this for a while. Time for it to stop. The kids understand, it is just easier for them this way. Stop making it easy

HuggedTrees · 17/11/2019 15:17

Of course he’s replied like that. He is still abusing you and he thinks he’s goi to lose this bit of control over you so will try anything more.
Reply calmly that he is no longer allowed access to your house and the children are aware of this.
Food is food. You can have cold food that’s more nutritious than hot. He can be a cool dad if he wants hot food and cook them a BBQ at his building Site every night.

Of course he is only doing this to mess with you And smirks every time he leaves pans out for you to wash. He’s bit doing it for the kids but to piss you off. Watch the contact level drop

FairyBatman · 17/11/2019 16:35

they need hot food and that is all he wants for them, and that they are not pets to be taken out.

I’d simple reply by email. I have read your message, my position remains unchanged. How you choose to provide food in your contact time is your responsibility, but you are not permitted to enter my home.

FairyBatman · 17/11/2019 16:37

I think the idea of a ring doorbell or similar is a very good one.

donotknowhownottomind · 17/11/2019 16:56

I did reply telling him what using the children as pawns actually means and it isn’t what I am doing. And that he would not be letting a person who is hostile to him into his home. And that this is what he chooses to respond to me about after months of silence.

I think he literally doesn’t see what the issue is - they are his kids and as such he is going to see them, not me, as far as he is concerned. Which for me is just a continuation of the rejection I have felt for years.

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