Anyone else not want anyone to win this General Election?

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It seems to be a given that you will vote for one of the two main parties. If on a thread you say you can’t vote Tory because of x then people go ‘OMG how could you vote Labour with their issues with y??’ And vice versa.

But I don’t want to vote for either party because of x AND y, and I can’t see myself being happy on Friday 13th with either in power.

I don’t want either to win. What I really want is neither to win and no government to be formed, both leaders to stand down and a rerun with less terrible options.

Or I guess a minority government limping through to a second referendum to sort the Brexit issue, then another GE with new leaders.

Anyone else?

Vote Lib Dem? Or Green?

Labour and conservatives are 2 cheeks of the same arse and both as bad as each other! I also don't want either in power. The lib dems are no better and we would be just as fucked with Greens so 🤷‍♀️

I can see your point - the problem is there's no certainty that the rerun would be significantly better, and meanwhile more chaos and limbo.

If it was likely that an inconclusive result would lead the labour and conservative parties to give themselves a shake and figure out that maybe most people would just like some sensible moderates then sure... but that seems highly unlikely.

I know exactly what you mean, I don’t want to vote for Conservative or Labour or Lib Dem or Green for various different reasons & they’re the only 4 standing in my area. Realistically none of the other 3 stand a chance of beating the Tory candidate, last election he won by a 41.?% margin & it was a leave majority constituency.

Depressing how few people understand FTPT works. Sigh.

And wow, imagine being politically ignorant enough to compare Labour to the Conservatives. Try reading the policies and manifestos and doing some fact-checking independently of all the sensationalist nonsense.

"a rerun with less terrible options"

Unicorns, I suppose. Because I really don't think that there are these less terrrible people who aren't standing

Or do you have something in mind??

*FPTP

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would get my vote many years.

@WorldEndingFire it does NOT mean that someone is politically ignorant if they are in favour of some policies of one party and other policies of another party, even if those two parties are opposite poles.

I hope that once Brexit is “done” the campaign for electoral reform will properly heat up and the whole country goes to STV/PR...

I’ll be worm food before that happens I’m sure

I will be doing my research the previous week and voting for the least worst party. Women fought and suffered and died that I may have a vote and I’m bloody sure to respect them and use it as best I can.

It’s crap, it’s like choosing which land mine to step on.

We need a time machine to go get guy fawkes

What @Elieza said.
And I don't really want any of them either but if we think things are bad now, how is adding to the chaos going to help.
It's a shitshow, the whole frigging lot.

@shinynewapple that's not what I wrote but OK. :)

OP a re-run with who? Why do you think anyone better will step up?

They are shit choices but I don't know that a re-run will be any better. What will have changed in the interim? Nothing.

I would hope that the voters of Uxbridge and South Ruislip don't vote back in their MP. No chance of a change in Islington though.

Can we get a coalition where instead of one minority granting power to one majority party, we actually had to reach a consensus on issues?

Why do you think anyone better will step up?

Surely they’d be hard-pushed to find leaders less popular and problematic than Johnson and Corbyn?

Look at how Johnson has been booed and heckled as he travels around the country. That’s not unifying. And people hate Corbyn. Doesn’t matter how principled or whatever his fans claim he is, he’s a liability.

And wow, imagine being politically ignorant enough to compare Labour to the Conservatives. Try reading the policies and manifestos and doing some fact-checking independently of all the sensationalist nonsense.

The manifestos aren’t out yet. But I’ve done plenty of research. Hence my depressed OP.

Nope - definitely want the Conservatives to win, and win big, because it was only the defeats Labour sustained in 1983, 1987, and 1992 that finally moved them off Bennism (the Corbynism of its time) back to a centrist position.

Can we get a coalition where instead of one minority granting power to one majority party, we actually had to reach a consensus on issues?

I think that would be a minority government. I would hope that since all the parties apparently hate each other none of them will agree to go into formal coalition with any of the others and all batshit policies are shelved, just stuff they all agree on like more money for education, policing and the NHS are passed. Maybe we could also have a referendum on a new voting system, proper proportional representation at the same time as a 2nd Brexit referendum. Look at how differently people voted in the EU elections.

"Surely they’d be hard-pushed to find leaders less popular and problematic than Johnson and Corbyn"

I don't know what Labour will do but the Tories would probably field Jacob Rees Mogg next.

like I said - if it seems mad at the moment, there's nothing that will alter that even if the entire country spoiled their papers. We could just end up with different faces fronting the mad.

I was really looking forward to labour wiping the floor with the tories, but that is not going to happen and I don't think I can be part of that shit show now, sadly.

So who then? Lib dems, want to stop Brexit but that comes with its own problems. And around here, if I mention Greens, they'll think I'm talking about veg.

“ Lib dems, want to stop Brexit but that comes with its own problems”

Are they still on “ let’s completely ignore the referendum and just pretend it never happened”?

If the Lib Dems managed to get into power on the back of a promise to revoke Article 50, I think such an astonishing vote would supersede the referendum.

Not that it will happen.