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If you are an INFJ and happy in your job....

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BarbaraFromOopNorth · 14/11/2019 17:04

What do you do?

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FelicityFartypants · 15/11/2019 21:37

And FGS! It is 2019! This is a load of old bollocks!

Myers Briggs is just a load of old crap from the 1940s, when they were trying to place war wives into defence jobs.

It has absolutely no place now. None. Zero.

BarbaraFromOopNorth · 15/11/2019 22:31

What qualifications do you have @FelicityFartypants?

Maybe slug it out with the Organisational Psychology experts at Cranfield?

www.cranfield.ac.uk/som/people/dr-wendy-shepherd-1146715

www.cranfield.ac.uk/som/people/professor-richard-kwiatkowski-714915

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floffel · 15/11/2019 22:36

Scrum Master

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 15/11/2019 22:38

I'm INTJ and worked as a statistical analyst for a market research company. I had a manager and did work for other people, but had complete control over my own projects. Each project had a deliverable date but so long as I worked towards that date I could set my own timings and work schedule.

Now I'm a SAHM and it's like somebody installed an interrupt button, I rarely get to concentrate on anything. Hmm

DorisDaisyMay · 15/11/2019 22:41

INFJ and I was a teacher for 16 years. I started as drama and moved to be a Senco. I now run an educational charity and wfh as I found being a teacher both amazing and draining in equal measures. I get to do many of the bits Ali loved from the job but a lot less of it does no marking, targets or ofsted!

Titsywoo · 15/11/2019 22:45

I don't love my job but it's ok. I'm a bookkeeper and work in a very small office. There is never more than 3 people (including me) at one time and we don't talk loads. Often it's just me. This is good for me. If I worked in a big office with loads of people I'd hate it. I only do 12 hours a week and the rest of the time run a business with DH from home. This I like as I can do everything my way from start to finish without having anyones input (well apart from DH but he's on the same page as me).

tinkywinkyshandbag · 15/11/2019 22:54

Really interesting thread, my husband is an I NTJ which apparently is only about 4% of the population. He has never really found a job that he enjoys. He is currently working in a project management type role. I honestly don't know what he would be happy doing. I might show him this thread and see what he thinks!

Parametric · 15/11/2019 22:56

Haven’t done the assessment for a long time, but was consistently an INTJ. I’m a psychologist and have a good understanding of personality traits, and still feel this construct describes me well. I am a PT lecturer, researcher and have my own company. I love talking, but generally I am happiest in small groups and take pleasure in solitude.

GoldfishGirl · 15/11/2019 23:49

I love this thread. I am a geek about MBTI and interested as both DM and brother are INFJ.

Interestingly, DM has dabbled in most of the things mentioned - lab research, book keeping, maths teaching, writing, caring.

OP could you invite these people to give their feedback at certain times? I am wondering if this would help give you more control etc.

I'm INFP, work as an Account Manager (charity clients) plus regular WFH. Love it.

30to50FeralHogs · 15/11/2019 23:59

INFJ here. 100% I all the way. I work at home on my own as an artist. I love it, the solitude, being able to make my own schedule, not answering to anyone.

However, because I don’t go out of my way to be sociable outside of work either, I can go for weeks without seeing another adult than DP a couple of nights a week.

So while working alone suits me, it isn’t necessarily the healthiest choice. A little bit of enforced socialising might help me a bit!

I try and get out to meet other creative entrepreneurs or customers when I get the chance. An hour or two is enough!

30to50FeralHogs · 16/11/2019 00:00

I don’t understand why some people compare MB tests to horoscopes. It’s literally based on the answers YOU GIVE, not some arbitrary info. Grouping people by self-professed characteristics makes total sense. And of course people change over time, but not drastically.

Whodoyoutrust · 16/11/2019 00:02

Social worker with adults. Very much prefer working one to one with people, less time in the office, fewer interaction with my team.

KayakingOnDown · 16/11/2019 08:06

I think the Myers-Briggs tests are actually quite good - mine describes me well. So what if they were devised by a mother and daughter in the 1940s - does that make them less valid than if a man had done it?!! And personalities don't change over the decades.

mintcorneto · 16/11/2019 08:27

I used to work in finance as a Operations Manager, however I felt unfulfilled and miserable. I now work in a preschool for children and couldn't be happier.

NoSquirrels · 16/11/2019 08:36

There’s a book on it, about the origins of the test and the mother-daughter team that’s supposed to be a good read- ‘What’s Your Type?’ By Merve Emre. Quite critical, I believe.

I think if you think it’s ‘science’ and the results should be used proscriptively to sort people into rigid boxes then it’s problematic- if you think it is one of a range of useful personality tests, particularly helpful that it categorises introvert-extrovert tendencies, then what’s the harm? Why the vitriol?

I’ve been taking it in one way or another since I was a teenager through to my 40s. I always come out as INFJ. I’ve never disagreed with the description. Feels nice to be ‘seen’ and certainly when I first did it as a teen and in my 20s it provided me with useful ways of considering how I instinctively reacted to things and what the downsides and upsides of those tendencies were.

But then I’m a strong ‘F’ and it’s all about the feelz... Grin

EmmaGrundyForPM · 16/11/2019 08:41

The MBTI is a load of rubbish. Ignore it and get some proper careers advice.

IWillWearTheGreenWillow · 16/11/2019 11:07

Or, perhaps, ask people who are similar to you how it's working for them? In my experience, most careers advice is dispensed by extraverts who don't understand the need to work alone, and is therefore even less useful than Myers Briggs.

BarbaraFromOopNorth · 16/11/2019 11:43

Thanks @EmmaGrundyForPM that's really insightful and useful.

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Helmetbymidnight · 16/11/2019 13:37

i like that it was devised by a mother and daughter- i didnt know that.

yeah itsnot science but its quite a nice tool that leads to greater understanding of self.
plus im in the same group as shakespeare - you think im going to sniff at that? :)

DotForShort · 16/11/2019 15:04

University lecturer. My field is in the humanities. I love everything about my job with the exception of the academic politics.

Bcnamechanger · 16/11/2019 15:17

It's bollox. It has poor test/retest reliability because the constructs it tests for can be mood dependent rather than traits. It has poor construct validity because the things it measures aren't necessarily measures of what it says it measures. And it's frequently used as a stick to beat people with.

As a result, it's bollox. But if it makes you happy and feel understood then that's a nice placebo effect for you to enjoy at your leisure.

FelicityFartpants · 20/11/2019 18:36

I have professional Post Graduate qualifications, thanks Barbara. I don't feel the need to confirm to you what they are just because we don't agree with each other.

Can you link me to the fully peer reviewed and published academic papers that those 2 people from Cranfield have written, rather than just their profiles please?

Grinchly · 20/11/2019 18:55

I'm a post grad historian and used that for a few years, before branching out into mainly written pr, as one could in the old days.

I now run v successful PR for a public body, but have no direct reports and work from home two or three days a week.

My gratitude for this knows no bounds so I absolutely excel in terms of output and go above and beyond.

I am massively fortunate with a great line manager.

thecatsthecats · 21/11/2019 15:21

It has poor test/retest reliability because the constructs it tests for can be mood dependent rather than traits. It has poor construct validity because the things it measures aren't necessarily measures of what it says it measures.

I'm not going to disagree with you there.

It's bollox.

By the definition above - potentially. On a social level, I think any frame of reference based on individual input (rather than astrology etc) that helps people understand both themselves and others is useful. In fact, more so to put it in common terms rather than scientific ones.

And it's frequently used as a stick to beat people with.

That I obviously think is a bad idea. But we did DISC testing at work, and it's largely been positive in understanding what makes each other click.

The man who had the biggest blindspots regarding his own weaknesses was also keen to wave around the 'it's bollox' flag, when his results described him to a tee. Right down to the fact that he thought my profile was more appropriate to him, when everyone else was laughing at how well it defined my approach and attitudes. (right down to the fact that I was complaining that it claimed I had great attention to detail when I thought can be sloppy, and they pointed out my 7 page minute by minute day plans for events colour coded by room, and that it also said 'Cats can hold herself to unrealistically high standards').

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