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Carrie Symonds

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LadyLucyLocket · 11/11/2019 16:00

I think of myself as quite liberal re personal relationships and am of an age when I've seen and heard it all - till CS came onto the scene.

I feel it's really inappropriate that as BJs mistress/ other woman, she is invited to an attends 'state' functions when BJ is not yet divorced.

She's been to Balmoral and there she was at the Remembrance evening at the Albert Hall.

I feel she is out of order.

I would be accepting of their relationship if it were low key, if she hadn't moved into No 10 and if he kept her out of the limelight till his divorce was finalised. I feel incredibly sorry for his soon to be ex wife and his children who have supported him for 20 + years and are now usurped by a woman (same age as my own DD.)

I just feel it's all wrong and someone in his position ought to know better and wait till they are legally free to flaunt a new relationship to the public.

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Reallybadidea · 11/11/2019 16:04

YANBU. Times have certainly changed, haven't they?

DisplayPurposesOnly · 11/11/2019 16:05

I wouldn't call you liberal.

MikeUniformMike · 11/11/2019 16:15

It does seem a bit strange - in the past leadership candidates were allegedly encouraged to marry. Ted Heath was single and that raised eyebrows.

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LadyLucyLocket · 11/11/2019 16:18

I wouldn't call you liberal.

Really? I am liberal in that I believe in divorce and I'm okay about someone leaving a marriage for someone else.

I'm not ok about a PM- who should aim for higher standards of behaviour than Joe Blogs - living with his mistress in a high-profile manner, in a house paid for by us, when he's not yet divorced and has a long history of infidelity and illegitimate children.

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Bluntness100 · 11/11/2019 16:19

She's his partner, and you're the opposite of liberal 🤣

ActualHornist · 11/11/2019 16:20

I agree.

Bluntness100 · 11/11/2019 16:20

Op, you do know him and his wife are separated right? And that Carrie is his partner? Why do you keep calling her his mistress for God's sake.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 11/11/2019 16:29

I feel she is out of order.

I'm not ok about a PM- who should aim for higher standards of behaviour than Joe Blogs

Only one of them is PM. You seem to be blaming her for his actions.

My 2p's worth:

  • he and his wife are separated. The divorce is up to them, presumably when they're ready. If they want to shack up with someone else in the meantime, that's fine by me
  • he was chosen by his party as PM and by his constituents as MP. I agree that its a questionable choice but there you go
  • feel free to not vote Conservative at the next election
  • mistress is so 1950s
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LadyLucyLocket · 11/11/2019 16:31

Bluntness100 You do know that a man who has an affair and is living with a women while he is still married, does not have a partner but a mistress, don't you? You do know their affair began when he was still married ? You do know that CS went into this relationship as the Other Woman and BJ left his kids (who supposedly are devastated and no longer speak to him) for her?

Or had you missed all of that?

A decent woman would have said to BJ sort out your marriage, have time on your own and THEN we can talk about being a couple. THAT is MN Wisdom in case you'd missed it.

But Miss S dived straight in, and moved in.

I can just about feel it's ok for them to have a relationship when he is married but I can't accept her being in public as his partner when she started seeing him knowing he was married, is not yet divorced and seems oblivious to the pain her public appearances at formal, state functions must cause his wife and children.

You clearly think this is all okay.

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MagicKingdom17 · 11/11/2019 16:34

Would you prefer to see his ex-Wife with him instead? Or just to have gone to such events without a partner?
Genuine question not trying to ruffle feathers as have we ever had a PM in this situation before?

Bluntness100 · 11/11/2019 16:37

ou do know that a man who has an affair and is living with a women while he is still married, does not have a partner but a mistress, don't you? You do know their affair began when he was still married ? You do know that CS went into this relationship as the Other Woman and BJ left his kids (who supposedly are devastated and no longer speak to him) for her?

Op, the point is , she is no longer the other woman. She is his partner. That's it. End of. Her status has changed. She may once have been his mistress, she is now his partner.

How his wife feels you don't know. She's not articulated it and it's none of your business. She was hardly unaware that Boris was a serial cheat in their marriage.

You cannot seriously be saying that you feel he should not be allowed to be with er because they once had an affair and he needs to wait til, the divorce is through? Not seriously? Not whilst in the same breath saying you're liberal.

It's not even liberal to accept that his marriage is over, they are divorcing, and he is with his current partner carrie.

Your views are so restrictive and uptight. But whatever you do, please don't come onto public forums and pretend to know how his wife feels. You know nothing about that marriage, none of us do.

Passthecherrycoke · 11/11/2019 16:37

She’s just his plus one though isn’t she, at these events? Her presence is completely harmless and unimportant. In 3 years time no one will remember her name. Don’t really see the issue. It’s not like she has a role, she’s just his current girlfriend

Samcro · 11/11/2019 16:46

should this thread be titled Boris Johnson the cheat?
why is it all about the woman?

DirtyWindow · 11/11/2019 16:49

I loathe BJ but I honestly think that the fact he lives with his girlfriend when he's not yet formally divorced is the least of it Confused.

Bibidy · 11/11/2019 16:50

I'm not ok about a PM- who should aim for higher standards of behaviour than Joe Blogs - living with his mistress in a high-profile manner, in a house paid for by us, when he's not yet divorced and has a long history of infidelity and illegitimate children.

But as you said, we all know he's had affairs before - even if he'd still been with his wife and she was standing up their next to him, it doesn't change the man that he is. Hiding his girlfriend away doesn't change that, and it's not like he's actually still with his wife.

He also married his STBXW just days after his previous divorce was finalised so she was in the same position as Carrie at one point, dating someone legally still married. I'm sure she wasn't worried about enjoying the privileges instead of the first wife at that time.

At the end of the day, it's Boris who's in the job and him who gets to choose who's there by his side. I don't see the issue with Carrie being present since he's openly separated; she's not his mistress, she's just a woman dating someone who's divorce is going through.

DawnOfTheDeadleg · 11/11/2019 16:52

Of all the things Johnson has done wrong, this is about the least of them.

Bibidy · 11/11/2019 16:54

I can just about feel it's ok for them to have a relationship when he is married but I can't accept her being in public as his partner when she started seeing him knowing he was married, is not yet divorced and seems oblivious to the pain her public appearances at formal, state functions must cause his wife and children.

But quite frankly, it's not about his wife and children. This is his job, he's achieved one of the highest offices in the county, and he can choose who partners him at official functions.

He has split up from his wife, therefore he can bring whoever he chooses.

Saucery · 11/11/2019 16:55

‘Mistress’, not a ‘decent woman’, Other Woman.

How retro. Good job we have moved on from that sort of bollocks. Well, some of us.

thedevilinablackdress · 11/11/2019 16:58

This is bollocks OP. There are a million and one other things to get annoyed at our PM about. This doesn't even make the list.

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 11/11/2019 16:59

Vile man.

I wonder what the press would say about a female prime minister who had children by different fathers, had been unfaithful in every relationship, had moved her latest fling in with her to number 10 after arguing so loudly neighbours called the police, whose children no longer spoke to her etc. I have probably left something out.

I want to feel sorry for CS but she is an adult and has made her own bed

LochJessMonster · 11/11/2019 17:01

My first ever Biscuit of all the things to hate BJ about, this is ridiculous.

He has separated from his wife, therefore Carrie is now his girlfriend/partner and should accompany him as his plus one.

BelleSausage · 11/11/2019 17:01

You’re not wrong. I do find it puzzling that people feel it is ok to behave like this in a public office.

He had an affair while his wife was undergoing cancer treatment and has had a string of mistresses and illegitimate children. He is repulsive. She is hardly any better to take up with him.

SleightOfMind · 11/11/2019 17:03

It’s the least of the issues I have with Johnson but if one of my friends behaved this way towards their family, I wouldn’t be happy to be forced to play nice with the OW at functions/social stuff etc.

If Symonds was my friend, I’d be really fucking angry with her over this - who shags a married man with DC when his wife has cancer?
As I said though, least of his crimes. Horrible people do horrible things

LochJessMonster · 11/11/2019 17:04

@BelleSausage so he must remain single until he leaves public office?

elizzza · 11/11/2019 17:04

Given all the actually objectionable things about Boris Johnson that make him unfit to be prime minister, I find it hard to get upset about this.

OP, what’s the relevance of Symonds being the same age as YOUR daughter?