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DH is saying he won’t vote as “They’re all as bad as each other”

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Guineapig456 · 01/11/2019 13:48

I’m really worried that a lot of people may feel the same way, we’re all mentally tired of Brexit and the politicians do seem hopeless to a smaller or larger extent. But if people like DH don’t vote, it scares me what could happen after the election. I’m not political in any way but I’m worried for our future and most importantly my DCs’ futures. Crime, the NHS vulnerable to a U.S. style takeover, economic struggles, plus Brexit still not finished simply feels too much. Yet saying that we’re not going to vote doesn’t feel right either. I don’t know who to vote for, just that I hope whoever wins the election can really do something to help the vulnerable in our society, provide opportunities for our young people, genuinely invest in the NHS and other public services so that people can live rather than just exist.

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JacksonPillock · 03/11/2019 14:35

But we're not voting for Hitler or Trump. So you never told me which party the intelligent people are so obviously supposed to vote for in December?

Helmetbymidnight · 03/11/2019 14:39

make your own mind up- but not voting because 'they're all the same' is the provenance of the dim-witted. i feel sorry for the op being married to one.

JacksonPillock · 03/11/2019 14:43

make your own mind up- but not voting because 'they're all the same' is the provenance of the dim-witted. i feel sorry for the op being married to one

But you seem so sure that at least on these parties is the right one to choose. I mean, you'd have to be thick not to know, right? So why can't you just say which one it is?

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KatherineJaneway · 03/11/2019 14:46

No party is perfect. You vote for the best of what is on offer in your own opinion.

Helmetbymidnight · 03/11/2019 14:49

nope, i havent decided who i will vote for yet but im not thick enough to pretend all parties and politicians are exactly the same, and im not thick enough to give up on my biggest chance to affect change.

lemonjumper · 03/11/2019 14:54

They are not all the same, the parties all have different policies.

When the parties publish their manifestos for this election, read them. Find out which one is most aligned with your values.

Or use a site like voteforpolicies.org.uk/

TSSDNCOP · 03/11/2019 14:56

I think it’s time to re-examine the hierarchy of hatred. Which in my case means walking back a letter I wrote to my MP detailing all the reasons I’d never vote again.

dudsville · 03/11/2019 14:58

I'm really sick of the whole thing. I've come to think that democracy is a sham. I'm unlikely to vote (last time I gave my vote to my partner).

Oblomov19 · 03/11/2019 14:59

I feel the same. I don't want to vote for any of them. All as awful as each other.

DH is saying he won’t vote as “They’re all as bad as each other”
DH is saying he won’t vote as “They’re all as bad as each other”
Oblomov19 · 03/11/2019 14:59

I will vote though. But I'd rather not!

DH is saying he won’t vote as “They’re all as bad as each other”
JacksonPillock · 03/11/2019 15:06

im not thick enough to pretend all parties and politicians are exactly the same

But you're not smart enough to see the difference between "they're all bad" and "they're all exactly the same". Anyway, I'm done talking to the brick wall now. Have a nice day.

MeClavdivs · 03/11/2019 15:15

if people are only there because they want to avoid a fine, you're very unlikely to get a considered vote, whichever method people use to pick a name

That's a fair point buffet. It's worth mentioning that technically it's not the actual voting that's compulsory in Australia, it's going to the polling place and getting your name ticked off, but that obviously doesn't change the point you're making.

It is true that being at the top of the ballot paper gives a slight advantage, which is one reason why names order is randomised rather than being alphabetical (see also: donkey vote).

Where I think the Australian system is superior is that if everyone knows they have to vote, it's just something that you do. You don't forget it (ok some people do), you don't put it off, you don't think ooh I'm really not in the mood to go out in the rain today. It adds a financial incentive (or whatever the opposite is) to the picture. And financial incentives are well-known for causing changes in behaviour (just think of the window tax, or narrow Dutch buildings, for example).

So absolutely, the threat of fine can't force engagement, it can only force going to a polling place on election day. That said, I do think that it increases engagement (I grew up in Australia, but I do come from a socioeconomic group that has high voter engagement anyway, so my experience might not be typical).

Hope that makes vague sense, not feeling the best today.

AllTheGoodUNsTaken · 03/11/2019 15:18

I feel the same, although hit's not that I think hey are all as bad as each other, but that I live in a safe seat and my vote will make no difference anyway. I'll still vote, but it seems a little pointless.

MidnightMystery · 03/11/2019 15:30

I'm in the same boat, I've been trying hard to understand what the hell is going on but I can't get my head around it and scared to make the wrong decision.

MidnightMystery · 03/11/2019 15:31

What is spoiling a paper?

GuyForks · 03/11/2019 15:33

However bad he think they all are, he must think one is less bad than the other.

Elections turn on who actually goes out to vote

It's what all mainstream political parties spend their time and money on - working out (By canvassing) whether a resident of a property will vote Con, Lab, LibDem, Green or is a undecided. Then they target their efforts to get those people to register for a postal votes or get them to the polling station.

Not voting show that your husband is stupid I'm afraid There is a real chance with this election that voter apathy will result in bizaarre outcomes. He may think they are as bad as each other but does he really have no views as to whether Boris Johnson, Jeremy Corbyn, Jo Swinson or some random as yet to be ascertained person leading some ramshakle group of Brexit/Green/TIG/Independents would be better for the county.

Spoiling a ballot paper is just as pointless because no one will see it apart from a counting minion in a church hall somewhere, it's a minor statistic and a waste of time.

A right to vote is privilege that many people over centuries did not have and some countries do not have. It's a terrible thing to waste that privilege.

SarahLovesMarmite · 03/11/2019 15:43

I don't much want to vote for anyone either. But more than that I HUGELY don't want Brexit and another 5 years of the Tories. So I will vote for whoever in my constituency has the best chance of keeping the Tories out - probably Labour I imagine; must look it up.

EvaHarknessRose · 03/11/2019 15:47

Quote from the guy on Gogglebox this week, the first time I have agreed with him. 'oh no not an election - what if the Tories win. Or Labour. Or the Liberal Democrats.' No good options.

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