Sue Radford is pregnant....

[MadameFoner]

Just seen a post on Facebook...

I have two, am I more entitled to an opinion than those with less children than me?

What an odd thing to say.

I can assure you that you aren't better than anyone, you carry on thinking your a brilliant parent though.

I never said I was brilliant. What I said was that I don't have so many children that I cannot possibly meet their needs, that I considered the well-being of my existing children when planning the size of my family, and that my husband doesn't have sex with 13 year olds.

It's a fairly low bar this family has set, isn't it?

I'm sure the older ones do naturally help mum out by holding a toddler or pushing a pram. But that's not cruelty if they are happy. I was always borrowing people's toddlers when I was around 12. I loved taking babies for walks and helping get them dressed. I really loved children

That's great for you but not every female feels this way. As a child I wasn't interested in the stereotypical "playing house" and was never really maternal. By today's standards I'd be pushed to the nearest gender ID clinic and told I must be male, not liking the regressive stereotypes associated with my sex.

I have kids now but never dreamt of having them. It wasn't my sole goal in life.

When you say 'the older ones' in this house the older ones are the females. It seems expected of them. Conditioned to care for the males and babies. What sort of message does that send to girls?

I don’t think you need to be qualified in child psychology to know that having more children when your existing children have been on tv saying they wish their parents would stop, is terrible parenting.
I don’t think you need to be a Child Psychologist to point out that children shouldn’t exert control on their parents behaviour to the extent of feeling they have any say in how many children their parents choose to have.

I find it interesting how many posters have one or less child, as though the Radfords spark a particular level of vitriol in those people.

I have four. How much of an opinion do I get?

@Nicknacky it was an observation, I’m sure your thoughts are just as valid as anyone else’s.

5zed You don’t think your existing child’s opinion counts?

I think most decent parents take into account what effect another child will have on a family. Clearly not The Radfords though.

I don’t think you need to be a Child Psychologist to point out that children shouldn’t exert control on their parents behaviour to the extent of feeling they have any say in how many children their parents choose to have.

But parents should consider their other children when planning their family. I didn't have number five because I knew that it wasn't fair on my existing children.

@Venger ditto the above. It’s not a criticism, there just seemed to be a lot of posters posting that they’d stopped at one, or not had any and I find that a curious thing to be highlighting.

@Nicknacky I don’t think children should be dictating how many children their parents choose to have, no.

I think siblings are great. I have two. But I don't think having 20 brothers and sisters enriches your life anymore than having a few does. It's the same as the relationship between parent and child. One brother doesn't have enough hours in the day for a proper, quality relationship with 20 siblings any more than one parent does.

I didn't have number five because I knew that it wasn't fair on my existing children.
And there will be Lenny of people who think you should have stopped far sooner to be “fair” to the older ones.

I have one child and I have no urge to have anymore. No jealous here. Lots of pity for the kids though.

You know, the kids who said on camera they didnt want more siblings.

Lenny = plenty, sorry

My understanding is that all but the eldest two still live at home (And they’ve moved out and started their own families). If, as you suggest, they all hated it so much and felt put upon to raise the younger ones you have to wonder why they’re still there.

@5zeds I think it depends on your experiences. I only have one child, not through choice, and had to have IVF to have him. Yes, I admit I am jealous of those who seem to conceive with ease multiple times.

I think 22 kids is ridiculous though. Had I been unable to conceive at all I probably would say 'why does she get to have 22 when I can't even have 1?' Perhaps that's wildly unfair, but it's how I know I would feel. You could, I guess, say that about anyone who has kids...'why do they get to have 2 when I can't have 1' but I think the number here just makes it seem even more 'unfair' I suppose.

And the posters who don’t think it’s an issue that she was pregnant at 13, I assume you would be greatly upset it your 13 year old was impregnated by an adult?

That’s a weak comparison nicknacky. Just because I’m aware that the police and social services let’s down thousands of women in the past, including a 14 year old in 1989 I don’t know from Adam, doesn’t mean I’d tolerate the same for my children in 2019

How in the hell can she give anymore attention to another baby when she has so many dependant children already. I have 6 so I am always stretching myself so all are happy and have their needs plus met. The children must be doing that buddy system the Duggers has as there's only so much a Mum and Dad can do to meet their needs

Pass I really don’t think it was yourself but there was a poster who said that as he stated with her then it wasn’t that bad. That’s what I was alluding too, not about how the police and SS deal with it then or now.

@5zeds

I don’t think you need to be qualified in child psychology to know that having more children when your existing children have been on tv saying they wish their parents would stop, is terrible parenting.
I don’t think you need to be a Child Psychologist to point out that children shouldn’t exert control on their parents behaviour to the extent of feeling they have any say in how many children their parents choose to have. shock

Sorry, you must be joking - even their children dont want them to have more, it's not fucking controlling, obviously all they want is some time and attention, which they are not letting

Is she LESS busy than a brain surgeon, or an astronaut or a lawyer?

I mean, highly skilled professionals such as brain surgeons are busy saving lives. Sue Radford is seemingly only busy romping so she can create more lives...

Don’t be ridiculous, teachers care for and remember the names of your children 30+ hours a week and no one bats an eyelid

Teachers are doing their job, they haven’t given birth to those 30 children and actually teachers cannot give each child the 1:1 attention they deserve because they are one human faced with 30 small humans. It isn’t possible for teachers or Sue and Noel Radford.

Should say that teachers struggle to give each pupil the 1:1 so that’s where their parents should be stepping in. Sue and Noel do not emotionally support all of their children, it’s just not possible for two humans to do that.

Its just been on the ITV News with the newsreader grinning.