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'Friend' pulled the wool over my eyes?

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BristolCat · 11/10/2019 14:55

I've been spending time with this woman (32) every so often for the past couple of years. I'll call her Sadie. She's my DH's best friend's girlfriend and we've had meals out together as couples, attended wedding / parties and had a couple of weekends away with others at music festivals. I also invited her out to a couple of events myself, once just the two of us and once with a group of my friends. I thought Sadie and I were becoming friends and thought it was nice since our DP/DH are close. Anyway, I can't believe it but after a slow burning "funny feeling" I have only just fully realised that this woman is deeply unpleasant and unkind, and not the sort of person I want around me. I had slight feelings creeping up on me that she might be not very kind over the past few months but I stupidly ignored my gut and thought 'no she must be nice as her bf (my DH's friend) is absolutely lovely.'. Anyway, it suddenly hit me like a steam train recently, having heard her at a gathering saying some really cruel things about another mutual friend who is very vulnerable. This was the latest in a series of similar situations and strange behaviour I have started to notice where she has said bitchy things, and even mocked / scorned someone with MH issues. She completely blanked one of my friends who was sat next to her at my recent birthday meal and didn't ask her anything about her, or try to have any polite conversation at all, but was extremely friendly with my other friend sat the other side, for some reason (it was the first time she'd met either of them so was very bizarre). I saw what was going on from the other side of the table and felt very sorry for my poor friend who was blanked by her. This was what prompted me to start thinking I had mis-read Sadie and maybe she wasn't actually a nice person at all.
I have also noticed a few other smaller things which when placed in context with the above start to paint a picture of her I think. E.g. she has her DP wrapped around her little finger and he always puts himself down around her and he says things like "wow I'm really punching above my weight with Sadie, I mean just look at her", while she is sat there on his lap. She just sort of giggles but doesn't say anything to him to contradict or tell him he's great or anything. I have also noticed that when she's in groups she often whispers to her bf or to other people which I find really rude. And she never ever says anything vulnerable about herself or admits that she made a silly mistake, or even takes the piss out of herself in a jokey way, (which I do all the time). There are other examples of behaviour I have started noticing along these lines.

ANYWAY the main reason for this rant is because I can't believe that I was so stupid and missed this! I keep thinking I must be completely blind or stupid not to have spotted this. Yesterday I saw a few of my friends who have all met Sadie once before at my birthday. I mentioned to them my realisations about Sadie and the general consensus was that they all thought she was sly and didn't trust her, but none of them had said anything to me before as they thought she was a friend of mine. One of my friends said she had noticed that Sadie was v closed and aloof and another said she came across as rude and stuck up! They never told me this out of politeness to me! Obviously hearing my friends views reinforced to me that my gut feeling must be right about Sadie, but why on earth were my friends able to suss this person out so quickly and yet it's taken me two years! I normally feel like I have high empathy skills and a good judge of character, so this has knocked me for six! I am so shaken and pissed off mainly with myself for never having seen this and for having made an effort with Sadie, invited her along to things etc. I feel like I've been a bit of a mug.

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antisupermum · 11/10/2019 15:49

Just notch it up to experience and distance yourself. I don't think you need to flog yourself over it, or think on it any further than you already have. I certainly wouldn't be "shaken" over misjudging a sneaky person's character; I think that reactions a bit OTT to be honest.

You haven't got a relationship with her where further socialising is a must, so if you happen to be in the same place because of DH, I would just keep things civil & cool from now on.

BristolCat · 11/10/2019 17:26

Thanks. I just couldn't believe I'd not seen it for so long and felt a bit cheated / violated in a sense, as I'd extended the hand of friendship and felt I'd been tricked.

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Sunflower20 · 11/10/2019 18:35

I think you're massively overreacting OP. Doesn't seem like she's done anything particularly offensive?

gamerchick · 11/10/2019 18:50

I think you're massively overreacting OP. Doesn't seem like she's done anything particularly offensive?

Do you mock and be nasty about vulnerable people/people with MH issues as well?

gamerchick · 11/10/2019 18:52

Just freeze her out OP or if you want the short and sweet ending, pull her up on it.

I'd stop inviting her to shit though.

BristolCat · 11/10/2019 23:16

Yes, thank you @gamerchick I intend to avoid her now as far as I can. It's not worth confronting her as she will turn it into a drama and probably try to play the victim or twist it onto me. I think it's better to maintain a distance.

@Sunflower20 not sure why you disregard the behaviour I've outlined as nothing much.

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Josette77 · 11/10/2019 23:23

The mental health thing would both me. The dp thinking she's too good for him wouldn't. And the birthday thing confuses me. Why weren't the other people talking to your friend? Did everyone blank her?

BristolCat · 12/10/2019 01:08

@Josette77 my friend ended up sitting next to Sadie with no-one the other side of her.

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Leeds2 · 12/10/2019 02:37

What does your DH think of her?

Lovemydaughterx · 12/10/2019 03:33

I was going to ask the same thing as Leeds2, what does your DH think? Or haven’t you told him any of this?

Countrylifeornot · 12/10/2019 04:13

It doesn't sound like she's overly keen on being your friend OP, you're the one doing the inviting and pursuing of time together.
Just move on, there's nothing unusual about some people not hitting it off, you don't have to be mates just because your DP's are. Honestly, seems a not of an OTT reaction on your part to be so upset.

daisychain01 · 12/10/2019 05:11

So Sadie is mean and critical about other people.

By the same token, you're on here saying critical stuff about her. And you discussed her in detail with your other friends.

Isn't that the same thing? What's the difference? Sounds like she's probably more outspoken but still, at the end of the day it's just people bitching about each other. Nothing new there then!

Coffeeandchocolate9 · 12/10/2019 05:20

I know how you feel, taking a long time to realise some people are just not very nice. Maybe her mask slipped at your birthday when normally she's a bit more clever at hiding it. The great news is that you're not too far into a friendship with her and can quietly back away without any drama!

BlackCatSleeping · 12/10/2019 05:35

I know how you feel. Sometimes when you are closer to someone it’s harder to see the truth. It’s not a bad thing to want to see the good in people.

CampingItUp · 12/10/2019 05:56

She sounds very unpleasant.

But tbf it sounds as if you pulled the wool over your own eyes. She just got in with being herself.

“I stupidly ignored my gut and thought 'no she must be nice as her bf (my DH's friend) is absolutely lovely.'.”

There you go: don’t make blanket assumptions, trust your own feelings.

Teacher22 · 12/10/2019 06:39

It is a bit of a storm in a teacup. If you didn’t notice her being less than perfect before she is probably OK as nobody is totally perfect. If you find, OP, that you now don’t like the woman, pull back and don’t seek her company.

I have a mixture of friends and acquaintances who range from as nice as pie to really quite catty, judgemental and dismissive. Often the nice ones are dull, PC and virtue signalling and the catty ones clever, observant, honest and truthful. It takes all sorts.

TheBlessedCheesemaker · 12/10/2019 07:13

The critical MH comments aside (you haven’t detailed what she said so I can’t comment specifically), I have done everything you have accused Sadie of.
I’m autistic. Not that my mates actually know that (except a couple of friends who have more on-depth knowledge).
The thought that people may be judging me so harshly for all my general social crappiness makes me feel physically sick.

longwayoff · 12/10/2019 07:52

And you'd never gossip nastily about someone behind their back would you? Hmm

Fairylea · 12/10/2019 07:57

Not sure why you’re being so hard on yourself about this. There are tons of people I think are arses for various reasons. I just distance myself from them and move on. It’s not a big deal. You don’t have to like someone just because she happens to be involved with a friend.

Loopytiles · 12/10/2019 08:00

She didn’t “pull the wool over your eyes”, you just didn’t notice her negative behaviours for some time. So you don’t now like her, fair enough, minimise time with her.

Shit of you to bitch about her to your friends.

Dieu · 12/10/2019 08:07

You're a good person OP, and wanted to make the effort with her, as your partners are close friends. You saw what you wanted to see. Now that the mask has slipped, you can no longer ignore the negative stuff. These things happen though. Be kind to yourself - you tried to see the best in her but it didn't work out - and move on.

EmilyStar · 12/10/2019 08:28

From what you’ve written it doesn’t sound like Sadie was trying to hide the negative aspects of her personality from you, or trying to trick you into liking her.

It sounds more like, you wanted to like her because she’s DH’s best friends girlfriend, so you were making an effort to think the best of her, and so you subconsciously overlooked these things about her for a while.

So. Try to chalk it up to experience and move on, and back off from inviting her out with you.

HotChocolateLover · 12/10/2019 09:21

Ditch her OP. My oldest friend sussed out my ex-husband and another ‘good friend’ almost straight away. Guess who i’m Still in contact with after 23 years...

BristolCat · 12/10/2019 18:31

Thanks everyone for the helpful advice.

For the record, to the pp saying I was 'bitching' to my friends about her, in fact I've not mentioned anything at all for 2 years and only when I had this dawning realisation and felt shaken did I speak up to my friends as in "I've just realised I don't think this girl is very nice and I feel silly I didn't see it". It was more about me than her if you see what I mean. Also the way they responded wasn't bitchy at all. They stated they didn't like her but were very cautious and diplomatic about their views as they had thought Sadie was a friend of mine.

All in all I agree with the consensus that I've been a bit too nice / seen the best in her against my better judgement and now I just need to move on. I think the reason I was so shaken - which I realise reads like a total over reaction- is that I've had trust issues previously with narcissist exes etc and have learnt a lot about myself / being a people pleaser in the past. Having done a lot of work on my confidence in therapy I had really progressed and felt sure I'd never fall for narcissist behaviour again- hence feeling disappointed when I did fall for it and when evidently all the people around me whose judgement I trust had already seen through her.

In answer to the question about my DH, I did tell him how I felt after a while as I needed him to gage my back when in her company and to share my feeling with him. He understands and has seen subtle examples of her putting me down which probably went untouched be her DP. We are just keeping her at arms length whilst being polite for the sake of DH's friend. She is, however, very different around men- she's very pleasant to them-and only reveals her nastier side around myself and other women. The friend of mine she was friendly to at my birthday was a man funnily enough.

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Sleephead1 · 13/10/2019 07:28

You dont have to like her and I dont know the comment she made about mental health so couldn't comment on that but it doesn't sound like she has tried to trick you in anyway. Maybe she isnt very nice, maybe she doesn't like you, maybe you dont like her so are picking up on the negative attitudes of her personality rather than the positives. It sounds like she is attractive and likes male attention it may be that that us rubbing your friends up the wrong way? Or maybe she just isnt nice but I think you are making a huge deal out of this just see her when you need to and be polite ( like you would to a work mate ect)

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