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Has anyones kids had their first MMR at 4 years old and if so what side effects did they get?

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NellyMatrass · 29/09/2019 16:10

First MMR at 4 years old

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Stressedout10 · 29/09/2019 16:12

What do you expect?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 29/09/2019 16:15

Mainly being vaccinated against 3 highly infectious, dangerous diseases

OhMsBeliever · 29/09/2019 16:16

Yes, and no side effects at all.

BlueGingerale · 29/09/2019 16:23

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DtPeabodysLoosePants · 29/09/2019 16:23

First MMR at 43. No side effects. No effects from booster either. Dc x 3 all vaccinated on schedule-no side effects. Dd2 has to have an e tea booster as had mmr1 at 9 months due to an outbreak. No side effects from first vaccine or subsequent boosters.

Mitebiteatnite · 29/09/2019 16:25

BlueGingerAle vaccinations do not cause dyslexia or dyspraxia. Stop peddling dangerous misinformation.

WhenYouCantRunYouCrawl · 29/09/2019 16:28

Ignore the PP who mentioned dyspraxia and dyslexia. They are conditions that wouldn't usually be diagnosed until the child is at least 4 years old so it's pure coincidence. Correlation is not causation.

YorkshireIndie · 29/09/2019 16:34

Also saying please ignore the poster who said the MMR gave their child dyslexia and dyspraxia. These are conditions which can run in families or just happen randomly

mumwon · 29/09/2019 16:53

@BlueGingerale & how in gods name did you define that they didn't have dyslexia before the age of 4? & really? dyspraxia doesn't develop suddenly its shows itself by dc being late at their mile stones - ie slow to hold head slow to sit slow to stand walk etc & when they do you can see stronger evidence as they get older. It can be caused by inheritance, problems in pregnancy & child birth. There is no proof or evidence of it being caused by vaccination. dc had dyspraxia & dyslexia long before the mmr was developed but similar to asd wasn't diagnosed or considered a disability until fairly recently.

rosedream · 29/09/2019 16:56

Dyslexia and dyspraxia is hereditary not caused.

BlueGingerale · 29/09/2019 16:56

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mumwon · 29/09/2019 16:57

there is, however a lot of proof of disabilities & death being caused by contracting diseases that vaccination prevent.

RancidOldHag · 29/09/2019 16:59

Dyslexia cannot be reliably diagnosed until minimum age 6 (often older, say 8+)

I think that poster must be making a sarcastic point, about false correlation

BlueGingerale · 29/09/2019 17:00

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Boobiliboobiliboo · 29/09/2019 17:02

Perhaps it’s your gene combination that’s faulty.

WhenYouCantRunYouCrawl · 29/09/2019 17:04

Here's a summary of the actual research on aluminium in vaccines. From real, peer reviewed science, not the bollocks you read on some blog by a homeopathy practitioner from Alabama.

Taken from vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vaccine-ingredients

Aluminium, an adjuvant
Many vaccines contain aluminium salts such as aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate or potassium aluminium sulphate. They act as adjuvants, strengthening and lengthening the immune response to the vaccine. Aluminium salts appear to slow down the release of the active ingredient from the vaccine once it is injected, and stimulate the immune system to respond to the vaccine. They also absorb protein well, and stop the proteins in the vaccine sticking to the walls of a container during storage.

Aluminium is the most common metal in the earth’s crust and we are exposed to it all the time. It reacts with other elements to form aluminium salts, and small amounts of these are found naturally in almost all foods and drinking water, as well as in breast milk and in formula milk for babies. Aluminium salts are used as food additives (for example in bread and cakes) and in drugs such as antacids, and aluminium is widely used in food packaging.

Aluminium is not used by the body. Any aluminium absorbed from food or other sources is gradually eliminated through the kidneys. Babies are born with aluminium already present in their bodies, probably from the mother’s blood. Over time, small amounts of the aluminium from food, drink and other sources do accumulate in the body, but this is not believed to pose a significant risk to health (see for example this UK research from 2004 ). The view of most experts is that there is currently no convincing evidence that exposure to everyday levels of aluminium in any form increases the risks of Alzheimer’s disease, genetic damage or cancer.

The amount of aluminium present in vaccines is small - less than 2 milligrams of the salts, and less than a milligram of actual aluminium. In the UK, the highest dose of aluminium that babies receive in one go from vaccines is just under 1.5 milligrams (from the 6-in-1, PCV and MenB vaccines at 8 weeks and 16 weeks). A study from 2011 modelled the impact of aluminium from diet and vaccines in infants, and concluded that the total amount of aluminium absorbed from both sources was likely to be less than the weekly safe intake level. A study from 2002 drew similar conclusions. A study published in March 2018 took samples of blood and hair from 85 babies and measured their levels of aluminium. These levels varied considerably, but researchers did not find any correlation between aluminium levels in blood or hair and the estimated amount of aluminium that the babies had received from vaccines.

Vaccines that contain aluminium are associated with more redness and hardness at the injection site than other vaccines. Rarely, aluminium adjuvants may cause small itchy lumps (granulomas) to form at the injection site. A 2014 Swedish study found that this happened in a small number of children (fewer than 1 in 100) after vaccination with the 5-in-1 vaccine (Infanrix) and pneumococcal vaccine (Prevenar). Granulomas are not dangerous but can be irritating and last for months or even years. The study found that children with granulomas often developed an aluminium contact allergy. However, most children recovered from their symptoms.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 29/09/2019 17:06

It's a clear correlation. But there is a huge amount of reputable science that shows that there is NO CAUSALITY.

The correlation has been explained, many times. Here as well as in peer reviewed studies.

BlueGingerale · 29/09/2019 17:06

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mumwon · 29/09/2019 17:07

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaccines-are-they-safe-to-give-children-dangers-advice-facts-mmr-autism-donald-trump-anti-vaxxers-a7719491.html
As stated here the amount of aluminium in vaccination is minuscular & you get more from other things in the environment - like the water you drink, baby milk & goodness knows what else (& I know far more than you about ASD & dyspraxia etc I get my information from: Books written by experts in the field, up to date journal articles & reputable charities like National Autistic Society &, Oh yes! a degree)

Nonnymum · 29/09/2019 17:09

One developed dyslexia and the other developed dyspraxia
The mmr vaccination does not cause dyslexia and dysoraxia!

OhMsBeliever · 29/09/2019 17:10

My youngest son started school and it became suddenly obvious that he had real difficulties. He was diagnosed with ASD & ADHD. Nothing to do with vaccines, it's just when these things can appear when put into a school environment. (Therefore maybe schools cause ASD & ADHD?)

My other son had his MMR and shortly after I started noticing signs of autism and he was diagnosed at 2. I could easily have blamed the vaccines, however looking back now and remembering his babyhood I can see the signs were there all along.

My son who had the MMR at 4 started school and had selective mutism. Maybe that was the cause?

(I have loads of sons by the way!Grin)

Or maybe it's genetic, which is why more than one of your children has these things. Just like my kids, and I'm also being assessed for autism (I've never had the MMR)

honeyalmondlatte · 29/09/2019 17:11

If vaccinations cause dyslexia/dyspraxia/autism Etc we would all have those conditions! Vaccinations have been routinely administered since the 1940's. That is almost 80 years of immunising children and there has NEVER been any evidence that vaccines cause any of these condition! Stop peddling dangerous and incorrect information on the internet BlueGingerale! Be grateful and happy that your 3 children won't die from or have these horrible conditions inflicted upon them! You sound quite hysterical!

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meditrina · 29/09/2019 17:12

Babies get more aluminium from milk than from vaccines!

It's an abundant element in just about anything.
3Can you use Eden for a boy? It sounds more feminine to me.
There appears to be no evidence it causing harm as an adjuvant - it's been set up as a kind of bogeyman 'but you can't prove it's safe' - well, you can't, on that mindset, prove anything is safe (water ingestion has caused fatalities, dose seems to be wilfully ignored)

If you are concerned about total adjuvant load, then you could space jabs to one shot per sitting. Many people go off-schedule by accident or design, and as long as your DC does not miss out then a few weeks difference doesn't matter in the l un

Mitebiteatnite · 29/09/2019 17:12

OK BlueGinger, I had my MMR at the age of 20 and another subsequent booster a few years later. I also had my tetanus, Pneumococcal, HiB and Dtap in adulthood. Why have I not 'developed' dyslexia/dyspraxia/autism/'vaccine injury'?

More importantly, why did my DDad, who never had a single vaccine in his life, have autism and dyspraxia?!

If vaccines are so dangerous, why are there billions of children worldwide who are completely unaffected by them?!