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transgenger book being introduced to 12 year old at school

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Molucco · 19/09/2019 08:53

Just wanted to see what other parents think about a book called the art of been normal being introduced to all girls secondary school year 8 in English ?

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Gingerkittykat · 19/09/2019 20:01

I expect it teaches that children who have interests seen as stereotypically enjoyed by the other sex have been born into the wrong body and puberty blockers, lifetime dependence on cross sex hormones, mastectomies and genital mutilation is a positive outcome.

I expects it also teaches about girl brain and boy brain.

It would be lovely to see a book where the child above learns to love their body and learns to pursue whatever interests they want.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/09/2019 20:03

But that wouldn’t fit the agenda of the groups pushing to get into schools would it? Stonewall Allsorts, mermaids...

Tia3251 · 19/09/2019 20:05

Not sure if this book but on a related note my daughter asked me if she will turn into s boy when she’s older! I changed the subject as I was shocked. What she’ll I say to her? She was really terrified as she said she wants to stay a girl. School must be saying things, she’s only 5. What shall I say to her next time? I told her no she won’t then changed subject

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MrGsFancyNewVagina · 19/09/2019 20:06

I’m looking forward to the book about lesbians and how they are attracted to the same sex. How they aren’t attracted to people with penises and the children being told that anyone with a penis that tried to manipulate a lesbian into sleeping with them is a lesphobic bigot. That’s a book I’d really support. I wonder what the chances are of these sane children that are being transwashed being given that information?

M1ntyfresh · 19/09/2019 20:14

Oh for goodness sake Tia are you for real. If that was a real conversation which I very much doubt why on earth did you change the subject? You could have explained and had a conversation about the transgender population. Not hard.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/09/2019 20:15

I remember a book when I was a small child at school called something like ‘Dave has two dads’.

This was the funky 70s, and that was when men could wear frocks and makeup and didn’t think it made them change sex. Of course it was a more sexist era - but you knew what you were fighting against and feminism was all about centring women (and we knew exactly what one was).

Tia3251 · 19/09/2019 20:18

Actually minty it was the best thing for me to change the subject as I don’t know best approach to take! She’s 5, she’s doesn’t know anything yet so what I was supposed to scare her?

M1ntyfresh · 19/09/2019 20:19

Why on earth would talking about transgender members of the population scare her?Confused

HeadintheiClouds · 19/09/2019 20:21

The notion that people really believe you can be any sex you choose and there are around five million genders scares me, M1nty
Insanity is always frightening.

M1ntyfresh · 19/09/2019 20:22

Right🙄

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/09/2019 20:23

When I was about 4, I was really quite sure that I would be reincarnated as a boy (god knows where that came from - we’re Church of England). It really unnerved me at the time. In fact I was certain that I would be a boy who lived in Africa.

Tia3251 · 19/09/2019 20:24

Minty stop. U don’t know my child so how can u be a judge what will scare her? You’ve never me my child, as a mother I know what will and will not confuse her. I’m not qualified to speak about things I know nothing about so until I speak to a specialist Bd able to put into 5 year old teens I will not discuss with her. End of. Have a fit, call me babes I don’t care. End of discussion

Tia3251 · 19/09/2019 20:26
  • 5 year old terms not teens Omg! Typos not babes, names lol!!!!
HeadintheiClouds · 19/09/2019 20:27

How would you have “explained”, M1nty, just out of curiosity?

M1ntyfresh · 19/09/2019 20:28

I know 5 year olds and I know you don’t need a specialist to discuss transgender.Hmm

LloydBraun · 19/09/2019 20:30

As the parent of a child with ASD I can confirm that the born in the wrong body/people can change sex can be extremely distressing, especially to literal, concrete thinkers.
Thankfully I was able to resssure him that people who say these things are either misguided or dishonest, and can safely be disregarded. Him having a very logical brain helps, of course.

Tia3251 · 19/09/2019 20:30

So answer headinvlouds question minty. How would YOU explain it, go in then explain

M1ntyfresh · 19/09/2019 20:32

Some people don’t think they have the right body and this never goes away. Some end up having help to change their bodies to one they feel comfortable with.

Not hard, or scary.

LloydBraun · 19/09/2019 20:35

If you would actually say that, minty, I think you’re grossly irresponsible, and it would certainly frighten my son a great deal.

HeadintheiClouds · 19/09/2019 20:36

Not correct either, M1nty. Just the usual load of horseshit.

M1ntyfresh · 19/09/2019 20:37

Seriously😂😂😂

LloydBraun · 19/09/2019 20:37

I absolutely do not want my children being given the impression they can “change their bodies”, as though this were harmless and straightforward, or that surgical intervention is a desirable response to mental distress.
What a dreadful dreadful thing to say to a child.

Tia3251 · 19/09/2019 20:39

I agree Lloyd. 5 year olds are very different to year 8 students which OP originally asked for about the book.

Sorry OP for my question taking over your thread. I’m going to speak to class teacher and find the best way to explain to 5 year olds and will post the reply I get.

LloydBraun · 19/09/2019 20:39

I see that minty finds the notion of a child with asd being frightened by this funny.
I think we can safely stop taking her seriously, can’t we? Not that I was

HeadintheiClouds · 19/09/2019 20:40

Nobody was, to be honest!