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About Brexit: Dear young people ...

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ScreamingLadySutch · 18/09/2019 10:39

Far from ruining your future, Brexit is helping to secure it.

The Eurozone has a structurally high unemployment rate amongst young workers they either cannot, or will not, solve.

The UK has the lowest unemployment rate in the EU. Why? The cost of EU regulations do not apply here. After Brexit, EU costs on the economy will be even less.

When Remainers who were courting the young vote in 2016 with all the EU opportunities, now talk about Leave 'untruths', they failed to mention (even in the Remainer government leaflets at the time) there WAS a EU youth unemployment/employment problem - never mind the extent.

This FT article back then explains the inherent young worker problems in the EU/Eurozone;

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2171222-31e4-11e5-8873-775ba7c2ea3d.html

”They call it the “precariat”. In a continent known for strong employee protections, more than half of the eurozone’s young workers are in temporary jobs, churning from one short lived contract to the next.”

”In France, permanent jobs account for just 16% of new contracts, down from a quarter in 2000. In Spain, almost seven in 10 young workers are on temporary contracts. The share of the eurozone’s 15 to 24-year-old workers who are temps is the highest on record, at 52.4%”

”A deep fracture has emerged in Spain, France, Italy and Portugal over the past 20 years, with an older generation of highly protected permanent employees on one side and a younger generation forced to settle for insecure jobs on the other. That is one reason why youth unemployment surged when the crisis hit.”

“The rules for open-ended contracts in Europe are considered too stringent by employers and they sidestep those regulations by creating non-regular jobs"

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Squiff70 · 18/09/2019 10:50

You are truly deluded.

Bezalelle · 18/09/2019 10:52

Bruh...

LeysaV · 18/09/2019 10:53

Best of Luck here OP

Majority REMAIN from what I have seen.

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 18/09/2019 10:56
Hmm
Soola · 18/09/2019 11:01

Great post op.

About Brexit:  Dear young people ...
Soola · 18/09/2019 11:02

I’ve never met a remoaner, I’ve only ever seen them on here. Mumsnet is a left wing site though.

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Soola · 18/09/2019 11:03

😕

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 18/09/2019 11:04

Zero hour contracts, austerity, tuition fees, underemployment, food banks, unaffordable housing -all legacies of British government policy, not the EU. Making the country poorer after Brexit will only make things worse

Soola · 18/09/2019 11:05

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Soola · 18/09/2019 11:06

We will be just fine. 🇬🇧

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AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 18/09/2019 11:15

Soola you're deluded - Germany's economy alone is larger than the UK's - let alone when we add the likes of France, Italy and Spain into the mix.

Usernumbers1234 · 18/09/2019 11:30

@avocado

Can you expand on why that is relevant?

plantsplantsplants · 18/09/2019 12:07

@usernumbers1234 it seems obvious why @avocadosbeforemortgages's comment is relevant - it disproves @Soola's post of 11.06 therefore casting into doubt her other propaganda!

ScreamingLadySutch · 18/09/2019 15:32

@Squiff70 "you really are deluded"

This is how debate works. You refute my argument, by providing facts of your own.

So spend a little time researching the youth unemployment levels of the European countries, compare them to the youth unemployment levels of this country, and then post your argument assuring me of how meaningless the comparison is and we are mad to leave.

Your brain cells also might rub together in this research that you have been to idle to do, and you might start THINKING instead of screeching.

Making lazy emotional 'deluded' assertions of my mental health is not debate. It is illogical ad hominem fallacy.

So: looking forward to your facts based argument at how UK youth are doomed if they don't have the same unemployment levels as their European counterparts.

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Cinammoncake · 18/09/2019 15:40

I don't think workers rights are at the forefront of the Tory agenda somehow Hmm

ScreamingLadySutch · 18/09/2019 15:45

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages regarding @Soola's propaganda you might be interested in this speech in the Bundestag where an economist opposition MP tells the German government they are insane to treat UK with such disrespect:

"One thing is clear. Brexit will be costly. Costly for the EU, which means that, it will be costly for German taxpayers. ... Onto Brexit, for which you are partially responsible due to your negligence and your failure to help out the UK. ... What did David Cameron ask for that was so terrible? No more social welfare immediately, and for everyone. Stronger national parliaments. Less EU bureaucracy. But in Brussels he was banging his head against a brick wall. This was a great opportunity to reform the EU into a leaner organisation that focused on its primary job of creating and maintaining a single market. But no, that was out of the question. Instead, you decided to gamble on the unity of the EU. And now, we are counting the cost. 15 billion Euros from Britain will soon be missing from the budget ... [and] Germany [will] pay the bills."

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ScreamingLadySutch · 18/09/2019 15:46
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marvellousnightforamooncup · 18/09/2019 15:48

You leavers just don't know how things work. The level of delusion and misunderstanding is truly staggering. Most of your points are things Westminster are in control of.

BellaMoo · 18/09/2019 15:59

I really, really hope you’re right and
Brexit won’t leave us (and perhaps other European countries as well) worse off in more ways than just financial.

ScreamingLadySutch · 18/09/2019 16:03

Point being, the economist makes exactly the same point @Soola does.

"Even bigger than the hole in the EU budget is the the cost for the German economy. The UK is the second biggest economy in the EU, as big as the 19 smallest combined. FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE, the EU is shrinking not to 27, but to 9 states. The nonchalance, the indifference displayed by Brussels and Berlin in the face of such an enormous event verges on a pathological denial of reality. For Germany the UK is the biggest trading partner in the EU... German prosperity and German jobs are at stake here. But out of blind loyalty you follow France ... That would be too much. Too much free trade, too much fresh air in the markets, too much competition, too much rivalry for the best markets ... This Europe, for which centrally-organised France, with its failed industrial policy, serves as the blueprint ..."

See how this GERMAN ECONOMIST is repeating what Brexiteers argue, but in Germany's interests?

Seriously, I find again and again that the people who are ignorant and don't seem to have any understanding of what the issues are, the people who don't seem to understand how powerful Britain is, the people who have their hysterical heads up their behinds, are Remainers.

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Soola · 18/09/2019 16:15

@ScreamingLadySutch my husband is a Private Banker as a practitioner and as a product supplier. He specialises in investment management, and has many clients with long investment time horizons such as endowments, and inflation protection is very important.

He and his friends and business associates have all been for Brexit from day one.

I put my faith in these experts over the lefty biased media any day.

AravisTarkheena · 18/09/2019 16:19

Can’t say, as a young person, I’m too overawed by investment bankers being for Brexit Or the fact that deregulation will enable the proliferation of ‘non regular jobs but, you know, if it works out that would be great.

AravisTarkheena · 18/09/2019 16:20

Re the German MP quoted - social welfare was always within the remit of Westminster.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 18/09/2019 16:30

I’ve never met a remoaner

Neither have i

As its just a stupid name someone with a very small brain thought up because they thought it was funny

Its usually said by the same people who whine about people who voted reman being ‘mean’

Jarimbert · 18/09/2019 16:30

@Soola Which "lefty biased media" would that be?

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