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7 seater car advice

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Carshmar · 14/09/2019 16:05

We've changed our lives in last couple of years and moved from London with two kids to remote-ish part of UK with very kind and generous community. Lot more driving is unavoidable.

In London we didn't have a car for years, then had the smallest thing practical. Now we need a grown-up car.

Partly this is because where we are people tend to have big cars and are always kindly giving lifts to our kids to and from activities.

It's got to the point where we really feel we need to be able to reciprocate, our kids are just early years in school and preschool and already we owe so many people. We have fifteen more years of running kids around to do! Plus we'd like to be able to take other members of the family out like our nieces and nephews.

Money isn't the biggest issue although we are not massive spenders. The priority for me is efficiency, cleanness of engine, the likelihood of it breaking down (we are both shit with cars). I was thinking of something like the new Honda CRV which has seven seats... also interested in people's experiences of the Volvo XC90 which I hear is very safe although probably pushing the budget.

My next question is, we've only ever owned second-hand cars... been looking at car-giant and they seem to be very pricey now - are we better off at this point getting a new model on a car payment plan? (No one in our extended frugal families have ever done this, considered the height of profligacy! But when we look at what we paid for our last car, and the money we've had to spend on it on MOTs and services even though it's a trusty VW, plus the depreciation from about £9k to £1k, we're down about £10-12k in 4 years anyway.)

Mums netters seem to be very knowledgeable about cars, especially driving them outside the city. Give me your advice!

Only proviso is it has to be automatic.

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PurpleCrazyHorse · 15/09/2019 07:19

We've had our Seat Alhambra for a year and we love it. The rear seats fit adults which is also handy when our parents visit, plus good as the kids get bigger. Ours are 10yo and 4yo. Plus side is also that we can split arguing kids diagonally across the middle and back rows to decrease bickering. Also a 12V point in the boot for back row devices Grin

Ours was £20k and was a 6 month old, ex dealer demo vehicle. It has leather heated seats, front and rear parking sensors and a rear parking camera. Makes it a breeze to drive, what with it being larger than I'm used to. Sliding doors makes it better for the kids getting in/out in car parks as the car is reasonably wide and it's a really wide opening for getting in/out the 3rd row. That's what I liked, the ability to get my fat bum through the gap to the back.

We live in a great central location so were able to travel an hour or so to the dealership and we were flexible on colour and the car internals (ours is automatic), which really helped find a used one.

We got a loan and are paying it off over 5 years. It means the car will be ours and we don't have to worry about any damage being charged for if we'd done a hire purchase agreement. Our kids are really good in the car and it's certainly not trashed, but I didn't want the worry of filling the car up and getting marks on the inside.

Totally more than we originally thought we'd pay but we absolutely love it. It suits our family perfectly as we also camp and travel around a lot, so the huge boot is brill.

icecreamsundae32 · 15/09/2019 07:25

Have read this thread very interesting going to take a look at some of the suggestions. DH really wants an XC90 or Range but I think they are just so much money.

starsinyourpies · 15/09/2019 08:15

We test drove the XC90 and it just felt a bit massive. We ended up with a Skoda Kodiaq which may not have the cachet of the Volvo but is a fantastic car! Love it and will run it into the ground now. We just chuck the kids' seats in the boot seats if we have extra people and can still fit lots in the boot behind them.

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starsinyourpies · 15/09/2019 08:17

Also a lot cheaper although we were buying new, not sure how many there are second hand yet.

Carshmar · 15/09/2019 08:26

Wow this is all so interesting and lots of models I didn’t know about.

To the poster who said they felt sick at my VW price, I know! In fairness me scratching the side of it down a gatepost didn’t exactly help (prob a good reason why I shouldn’t have a hire agreement one, although in fairness it’s the only time I’ve ever done something like that). Also I’m now very aware of its emissions (it had to have the vw repair) and I assume that it’s non ulez compliance makes it less valuable so I’m assuming I’d only get £1k or thereabouts for it. It is just astonishing how depreciation and car repair adds up.

The bmw gran tourer has some amazing prices! Why is it so cheap, seeing lovely models at about £13k, never thought I’d see that!

It’s the luxury model people are recommending, not the sport, right?

What exactly is a demo model and how do you find one?

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PurpleCrazyHorse · 15/09/2019 08:36

Just seen you need an automatic. The Alhambra has a lovely auto gear box. Apparently it's a double thing where it gets the next gear ready. Super smooth but good acceleration when you need it. Ours can have the paddles active so you control the up/down if you want more 'sport' or you're in a very hilly area.

inguildford · 15/09/2019 08:37

We also have a Kodiaq and like it.

These are some of the factors we used in making the decision:

It is a small engine petrol - diesel gets nailed on tax and will continue to do so (also better for the environment)

Small engine petrol also means that it has good fuel economy (35-40mpg)

Large boot compared to others, the 7 seat is optional and we just use it when needed

Good build - same components as VW, Audi, seat but at a far lower price

Speaking of price we went through the internet and got a big discount - it is a strange concept but we found it was cheaper to buy new rather than used!

PurpleCrazyHorse · 15/09/2019 08:44

The ex demos are listed on the dealership websites, so go to Seat for Seats, Ford for Fords etc. You just search for their approved used cars.

Basically, they're the ones you test drive, so they want the latest registration plates and trims on the forecourt, we got a good deal on our Alhambra as the new reg was coming out, plus it's a big car so they don't want lots hanging around taking up space. Usually low mileage (although ours was often borrowed by staff for weekends, we took that as an endorsement though as they could borrow any of the cars, yet chose an Alhambra). Also, they are usually a decent spec because they want you to enjoy driving it and like the extras, so you buy a new one with those extras. Easier to up-sell when you've tried them out.

What was excellent with buying an ex demo from Seat is that they fixed a couple of little scrapes done on previous test drives. The car looked brand new when we collected it. You pay a bit more usually, buying from the dealership though.

inguildford · 15/09/2019 08:45

Ps we bought our car through carwow - you can enter on what you are looking for and dealers will bid for your business.
You don’t need to go ahead with it unless you are happy, it also gives you a good indication of pricing

inguildford · 15/09/2019 08:47

PCH may a good point about Seat, they are also part of the VW group so a good car at a lower price than others.
We used to have a seat and really liked it (but a smaller car before kids)

PurpleCrazyHorse · 15/09/2019 08:50

Ours is diesel though. We would have liked a hybrid but the Prius Plus just didn't have a big enough boot for us (we camp so need a van-like space!). Hoping for a huge hybrid/electric/flying car next time Grin

SciFiRules · 15/09/2019 08:51

If you are thinking of owning for a long tim, and particularly if you buy second hand avoid hybrid / electric. The battery life is just not good enough yet. Some manufacturers are beginning to offer exchange programmes but there is no way that these cars will last 18 years as my last car did. You should also be carefully when selecting a hybrid to xonscider your journey type, a colleague bought a prius only to find out it gave worse economy than his mini! He was doing on an A road an hour each day and this didn't suit the car at all.
Also is automatic really essential? They have improved a lot over recent years but they still impair fuel economy and in my experience are less reliable and more expensive to repair.

Bloomburger · 15/09/2019 08:55

I thought the Volvo felt plasticy and not as sturdy as our 7 seater Q7. I always have a wobble when it comes to getting another one but always go back to the Q7. I think it's the one with the most normal size sturdy seats in the back and 3 proper size beats in middle row.

PurpleCrazyHorse · 15/09/2019 08:56

Agree @inguildford we were looking at VW Sharan/Tourans but the Alhambra is so similar yet lower price. Still expensive, don't get me wrong, but it's a big car. Luckily, we don't use it every day as we have a tiny little city car for running around in, so it isn't clocking up big miles or lots of wear and tear (tyres for big cars are more expensive!!).

However, we joke that a VW Transporter is the next logical step up Grin

SciFiRules · 15/09/2019 08:59

@inguildford is 35-40 mpg town driving? My Zaferia is doing 47 mpg mixed and about 52 mpg on a motor way. It's a diesel but I thought most modern petrol station returned 60 ish now?

sluj · 15/09/2019 08:59

Hi , we have just swopped our 7 seater Peugeot 5008 in for a Cit6Grand C4 Space tourer. Love both cars.
Have you thought about looking at Motorpoint if you have one nearby, cars up to 2 years old and substantial discount as many were leased beforehand.

inguildford · 15/09/2019 09:11

Yes, ours is mainly town driving but not that much higher on other roads.

Diesel still gets better fuel economy - just a pity they are polluting/get taxed so much by the government

MaisyMary77 · 15/09/2019 09:28

I’ve got an XC90. It’s the hybrid model (T8) so fairly economic-(I average 65mpg) I do about 40 miles a day-am able to charge between commutes. I fill up once a month or so.

It’s extremely comfy and wonderful to drive. I have no trouble whatsoever squeezing it into tight parking spaces. It sits 7 adults comfortably. I’ve sat in the back seat for a longer drive and have been fine.

But...

The tech glitches quite regularly-meaning a trip to the dealership for an update and recently it had to have major surgery to replace the rear axle-not great for a 2 year old car with only 30,000 miles. (Fortunately, covered by the warranty though)

I do love it though!

icecreamsundae32 · 15/09/2019 09:37

Has anyone got seat Taraco? Like the look of that more than the alhabrama

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