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7 seater car advice

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Carshmar · 14/09/2019 16:05

We've changed our lives in last couple of years and moved from London with two kids to remote-ish part of UK with very kind and generous community. Lot more driving is unavoidable.

In London we didn't have a car for years, then had the smallest thing practical. Now we need a grown-up car.

Partly this is because where we are people tend to have big cars and are always kindly giving lifts to our kids to and from activities.

It's got to the point where we really feel we need to be able to reciprocate, our kids are just early years in school and preschool and already we owe so many people. We have fifteen more years of running kids around to do! Plus we'd like to be able to take other members of the family out like our nieces and nephews.

Money isn't the biggest issue although we are not massive spenders. The priority for me is efficiency, cleanness of engine, the likelihood of it breaking down (we are both shit with cars). I was thinking of something like the new Honda CRV which has seven seats... also interested in people's experiences of the Volvo XC90 which I hear is very safe although probably pushing the budget.

My next question is, we've only ever owned second-hand cars... been looking at car-giant and they seem to be very pricey now - are we better off at this point getting a new model on a car payment plan? (No one in our extended frugal families have ever done this, considered the height of profligacy! But when we look at what we paid for our last car, and the money we've had to spend on it on MOTs and services even though it's a trusty VW, plus the depreciation from about £9k to £1k, we're down about £10-12k in 4 years anyway.)

Mums netters seem to be very knowledgeable about cars, especially driving them outside the city. Give me your advice!

Only proviso is it has to be automatic.

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MakeLemonade · 14/09/2019 19:35

We have a Land Rover Discovery Sport - we got the post 2015 model as we needed/wanted it to be ULEZ compliant as we sometimes have to drive into Central London but it doesn’t sound like that will be an issue for you. It does give additional confidence around it’s general emissions though.

Really good mpg, it’s big but doesn’t actually feel as enormous as I thought it would and can really shift. Like most seven seaters, the boot seats are good for kids or short journeys. Boot is massive. It has good parking camera, sensors, self park etc depending on model.

I didn’t like the Honda CRV seven seater despite having the five seater version previously and loving it. The seats don’t fold completely flat in the floor of the boot which really diminishes the space for a buggy etc. That said, it’s barely any bigger than the five seat version so if you want a car that feels like a smaller SUV it could be a good shout.

I know a couple of people very happy with VW Tourag (sp?) - they often get overlooked as they are premium badge money without the premium badge but well designed, spacious and high spec.

Carshmar · 14/09/2019 19:49

Ooh thanks, yes sadly ulez important for us, not often but when we need it we need it.

Just free of buggies though hurrah!

Was there anything else you didn’t like about the CRV 7 seater? That’s a shame as it was looking like the answer to all our problems!

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Carshmar · 14/09/2019 19:51

37k for the Volvo!!! God don’t blame you at all if you have it, but I’d have to sell DH! Grin

(Not sure that would bring in enough though)

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PlausibleSuit · 14/09/2019 20:00

You could buy an XC90 for 20k, it'd just be five or six years old. Nothing wrong with that, at all. They do have a good reputation for reliability, and you see plenty of much older ones still running around (there's one in our development's car park that's 17 years old). Just look for one that's got full Volvo service history and hasn't been used for off-roading.

The other car that might be worth a look would be the Hyundai Santa Fe. You'd get a newer one for your budget than the Volvo (you'd probably be looking at one that's 18months to two years old), and they're also very good cars.

Do you do the mileage to justify a diesel, though? If you only do short trips a diesel would not be a good idea. Modern diesels can develop very expensive mechanical issues if they're not given a good motorway-speeds clear-out every few days.

Carshmar · 14/09/2019 20:28

No I don’t think we do, it’s sort of small trips ferrying kids around then every six months a run to London (500 miles-ish)

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Carshmar · 14/09/2019 20:30

500 round trip

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MakeLemonade · 14/09/2019 22:11

No I liked the CRV otherwise but just couldn’t lose the boot space as one of our back seats is used very regularly and would be for holidays etc so that loss of space wasn’t worth it. Also thought it was a bit expensive, I got our Discovery Sport for £30k, less than a year old and 6,000 miles on the clock. Only had the option of buying new CRV as none second hand (this was about six months ago) and it came out as more!

Carshmar · 14/09/2019 22:17

They’re 34k new but coming down to 28k secondhand (must be only six months old).

Wonder what they’ll come down to next year...

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Drogosnextwife · 14/09/2019 22:22

I have the Nissan quashqui +2, you would struggle to get one now as they are the old model. I'm guessing the Nissan x trail is basically the same inside. They are nice and comfy, not too expensive and the back seats have plenty of room for kids.

GetRid · 14/09/2019 22:24

On your budget I'd go for Smax or the Citroen Grand Picasso or the equivalent Peugeot. People carriers are not glam but they do the business as far as transporting kids around goes. The boxy shape generally means a big boot and more headroom for rear passengers. Don't know why your DH doesn't like ford - they are great cars. Their heated front windscreens are also brilliant on frosty school run mornings.

TheFairyCaravan · 14/09/2019 22:25

We've got the 5 seat version of the BMW tourer that @ittakes2 mentioned. Ours is the luxury edition, we paid extra for heated leather seats. We've got an automatic diesel and it's incredibly economical, we get around 650ish miles to the tank. I really recommend the 7 seater, we test drove it when we ordered ours, it was lovely.

Carshmar · 14/09/2019 22:53

All very interesting, thank you. I’ll take a look at those too getrid. He’s had a couple of bad experiences with fords before I believe, so really dislikes them. Bit irrational I expect, but then so is spending up to 20k on something you dislike so with so many other good options being pointed out I guess we’ll work round it! There are various cars I don’t really love either.

fairy yes I have friends who adore their qashqai +2, I’m surprised Nissan didn’t supply more of them. Does the xtrail have 7 seats?

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BrieAndChilli · 14/09/2019 23:00

We have an X- trail with 7 seats. I love it. I had a zafira before. Ours is top spec as it was DH company car so he got all the bells on whistles on it. Once his 3 years was up we bought it.

ItStillLooksLikeRainDear · 14/09/2019 23:03

We have an Audi Q7. Only had it a few months and love it. We have various Land Rovers /range rovers before and much prefer the Audi.

teazle · 14/09/2019 23:08

We had a Citroen Grand Picasso which turned out to be quite unreliable it was a diesel and automatic). Now we have a Vauxhall Zafira (petrol, manual) which I think is better value for money and more reliable (so far!)

nonmerci · 14/09/2019 23:16

We have the qashqai+2, it’s fantastic. We previously had the XC90 but it guzzled up far too much diesel.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 14/09/2019 23:22

We have 2 DC and went with a Ford grand c max rather than the s max as it gives us better flexibility when we don't need the boot seats. I love it.

changeitis · 14/09/2019 23:22

BMW Gran Tourer
Petrol
Tax £145 a year

Brilliant boot space when step kids aren't with me. Excellent extra seats when they are.

Auto. Breeze to drive. Front wheel drive thing men talk about, so slightly different to the norm for BMW.

Agree on early poster recommending demo model. Except because it's a BMW, lots of sport models with no useful additions flood the market - designed by stupid men who think that a bit of body kit makes a car.

NO.

Heated seats, heated steering wheels and low dazzle mirrors suit mums with kids. Magic key entry thing where you wave your foot to open the boot (babe in arms) but no, just a load of sports seats and sports body kit on the otherwise perfect car. I hope you're reading this Mr BMW car designer.

My sister got a Hyundai with all the right jazz for a fraction of the price. But it's MASSIVE. I don't like driving massive cars.

Twooter · 14/09/2019 23:33

I’d try and convert your dh. The S-max is the way to go. Far better boot space than the volvos, far more spacious then the touran and zafira.

1Wanda1 · 14/09/2019 23:41

Skoda Kodiaq is awesome and a LOT cheaper than XC90. I think it was What Car? Family Car of the year. Very much worth a look as has been around a couple of years now so you should be able to get a second hand one in your price range.

stucknoue · 14/09/2019 23:56

Test drive a Mazda 5, they (according to the rac) are considered one of the most reliable cars on the road. Ours is 10 and has never gone wrong, only wear and tear.

NuffingChora · 15/09/2019 00:05

Second the above suggestion of a Skoda Kodiaq. I LOVE mine.

Carshmar · 15/09/2019 06:02

Kodiaq looks lovely! Never heard of it or seen one that I remember, drove an Octavia once and loved it. Could I ask how much you paid for yours and what year/mileage approx?

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Cliques · 15/09/2019 06:13

If you want something fuel efficient and the extra seats are for children, then you might want to consider the Fiat 500L 1.6 with the two extra seats in the back. A friend has one and it’s actually really roomy. I’m thinking of getting one.

user1474894224 · 15/09/2019 06:32

I've just bought a 7 seater - went through lots of thinking before making a quick purchase. We didn't have a massive budget. Wanted 7 comfy seats - 3 full seats in the middle and reasonable leg room for all when used as 7 seater. (Some cars have no legroom in the middle when the rear seats are up). We pay cash for our cars and keep them till they die. So reliability is a massive factor. (Seeing you spent so much on your VW brings me out in a cold sweat!). We were set on an SMax. Easy to drive, really comfortable. However something held us off purchasing. Then I took a chance ride in a Toyota Prius Plus. I loved it. It's hybrid so better for the environment. It's smaller than the smax so easier to manoeuvre in tight parking spots. Got enough gadgets to keep me happy - yes heated seats. Good reliability. And the kids think the built in dvd players are the business - I'm not a mum that allows electronics in the car....until now.

The downside is that if I were to become main driver for my parents in later years because it's lower than the Smax it wouldn't be so easy for them to get in and out of. (My previous car was a Citroen xsara picasso and my 95 year old grandma found it easy to get in, I was also asked to take my dad home from hospital after his hip replacements as it's so easy to sit in being higher.)

I would have liked the Volvo but could only afford older than we wanted.