Are we classed as carers

[99problemsandjust1appt]

For a flu vaccination

We can only claim carers allowance once even though 3 dc qualify for it.
So its in my name for one child so I am ‘officially’ a carer

Can dh be considered a carer too for a flu vaccination as there is an underlying entitlement ?

I was told this by carers allowance department we can only claim 1 amount of CA

Yes. Because your DH is working and earns over the threshold. Your posts are really misleading.

I don't know what you mean by underlying entitlement. You either qualify or you don't. You do, your DH doesn't.

Nothing to do with one per household.

But sometimes it’s just an underlying entitlement ? You don’t actually get the money

This is confusing.

You either qualify and get the money or you don't.

What would an underlying entitlement be where you don't get money? The whole point of carers allowance is that it IS money.

If you don't qualify because you earn too much then you don't qualify.

Nobody is saying your DH is not a Carer if that's what you think is happening? There are thousands of carers across the UK who don't qualify for carers allowance. It's for low/no income carers, that's all.

And to answer the actual OP, just show the NHS website which clearly says

You should have the flu vaccine if you:
• are 65 years old or over
• are pregnant

• • have certain medical conditions* • are living in a long-stay residential care home or other long-stay care facility
• • receive a carer's allowance, or you are the main carer for an elderly or disabled person whose welfare may be at risk if you fall ill*

So yes, he should be entitled to it on the NHS. However as per PP, it's not expensive anyway.

In terms of underlying entitlement I mean technically the dc are receiving dla or pip at the level where someone coukd claims carers allowance for them
The fact dh can’t for example doesn’t mean he isn’t a carer as if he wasn’t working he could then claim it

Does that make sense ? I’m finding it really hard to articulate
I feel like I can prove I’m a carer as I actually get the carers allowance
Dh is still a carer so eligible for flu jab surely but the only ‘proof’ he has is a dla award for a different child to the one I get carers allowance for showing they receive the middle or high rate

No it makes no sense. You don't claim carers allowance for the disabled person. It's for the low/no income person who cares for them. Your husbands income is above the earnings limit.

Carers allowance is not proof of being a Carer. It is proof that you are a low income Carer.

I just didn’t know what else we could use as ‘proof’ dh is also a carer as they were it particularly pleasant last year saying we shouldn’t be having it on the nhs so I was wondering how else you probs you are a carer

I understand what you mean by underlying entitlement. The flu jab is based upon being a carer not getting carers allowance and your dh is a carer. The GP surgery gives both of us the flu jab because although we have only 1 child he needs 2:1 care much of the time.

In our case ds has his flu vaccination at the surgery and they offered to do both of is as we both always go to appointments.

It seems really unfair, and it's crap that you were made to feel uncomfortable asking for it. It just doesn't make sense.

I'd be inclined to pay £7 at ASDA to avoid the hassle. Even though you shouldn't have to!

foodloves

Caters allowance IS awarded to a Carer for each person

No it's awarded to the carer if they are not able to earn more than the stated maximum per week. It does not depend on how many people they care for.

OP from ny reading of the guidance, your dh would qualify because he is also a carer to your 3 dc. If he got flu their care would be compromised. I woyld say that evidence of your dc's disabilities (e.g. dla letters) would demonstrate his role as carer.

understand what you mean by underlying entitlement

Can you explain?

The entitlement is the money. There is nothing to underlie. It's for low income people. It's not proof or being a Carer. If it were then an underlying entitlement would make sense.

No it's awarded to the carer if they are not able to earn more than the stated maximum per week. It does not depend on how many people they care for

Yes I know. You may have taken my comment out of context as it was a reply to a post?

I meant it can be given to more than one Carer as OP seemed to have been told one per household. It turned out OP was told that about HER household because her DH works.

I just didn’t know what else we could use as ‘proof’ dh is also a carer as they were it particularly pleasant last year saying we shouldn’t be having it on the nhs so I was wondering how else you probs you are a carer

Having a disabled child is proof. But I bet the vaccine costs the NHS a shit ton more than it costs in your local pharmacy. Perhaps that's why someone made the comment. Just go for it and if you come up against any nasty comments speak to the practice manager. The NHS guidelines are that he is entitled.

The underlying entitlement is to do with access to other funds or services.
So being a carer as recognised by DWP but earning too much to actually receive the money means you can access carer support services.

Some households will both be carers but neither will be able to claim as their income will be too high.

All our household gets flu VAC's because one DC would be in hospital fighting for her life if she caught flu so in our case its not just about protecting carer but more about protecting the person being cared for. However every year I get the same problems from gps receptionist saying you can't all have it:(even though been told by consultant that this is what needs to happen). I then have to go over there heads speak to a gp who signs it off - every year. Just get ready for a battle - every year !

I worked as a carer and never had the flu jab. We did get offered vouchers to have it done at Superdrug but I didn't bother.

Sorry foodloves I can see from your other posts that you do know.
That one post must be out of context.

I'd complain about the nurse to be honest, or change practice.

Just got to boots it’s only around a tenner

It's probably cheaper to pay for it at a pharmacy than it costs the nhs to give you for free. Pay the tenner and you're done, no aggro.

Yes I’m starting to feel it may be better as I’m anxious about having to explain and justify why we should both have it after last year
Seems a pharmacist might be a better option just so I’m not made to feel like crap by the practice nurse (who knows all the dc and their conditions and should know the flu jab criteria!)

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told us last year ‘this has to stop. We shouldn’t be giving you vaccinations on the
Nhs

These attitudes towards carers stink. What with this and the forced discharges of elderly relatives at riduculous o clock and worse discussed on the elderly parents thread i am disgusted with the attitudes of some organisations towards carers.