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What can I actually do about the prorogation/Brexit madness?

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KindergartenKop · 29/08/2019 08:43

Does anyone have any suggestions about what I could do about this? Are there any demonstrations? Is it risky to take kids to them? I've had enough!

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kimlo · 29/08/2019 08:44

there are demonstrations, theres a thread listing them as they are announced somewhere.

Personally I wouldn't take my kids maybe the 15 year old if she really wanted to go, would depend how old they are

IAskTooManyQuestions · 29/08/2019 08:46

You could start another thread ?

Type vigorously. Possibly employ some CAPS LOCK to show you're really angry about it.

Shout out 'down with this sort of thing' .

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KindergartenKop · 29/08/2019 08:53

Kids are little. I'm reluctant to take this to these things because they can turn nasty quickly but I don't have childcare!

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Singlenotsingle · 29/08/2019 08:56

You could throw your baby's toys out of the pram, and stamp your feet.

BrokenBrit · 29/08/2019 08:57

All demo’s I have been on relating to Brexit, and yesterday’s impromptu ones against suspending parliament have been peaceful and felt safe.
I will be attending more over the next few days.
The dangers for our children’s futures to do nothing to me feels far greater.

WrongKindOfFace · 29/08/2019 08:58

Got anything on Boris? I think that’s the only way out, something that would lead to him having to resign.

DarkNoise · 29/08/2019 08:58

Kindergarten go to the protest. It's going to be fine. I have been for one for the first time in my life a few weeks ago and it was great. Very peaceful and wonderful atmosphere. There is also a petition to be signed.

Timeaftertime42 · 29/08/2019 09:11

Sign petitions (there are several ) write to your MP, go on as many protests as you can...... but mainly put things in place to protect you and your family in the months to come (start stockpiling if you haven't already) because basically there's very little we can actually do now. I think we're going to have to jump off the cliff and hope not too many people drown.

Chickenish · 29/08/2019 09:35

Panic. Get stores in. Build a Sanderson shelter in your kitchen/dining room. No matter whether we stay on or go out its all going to go wrong.

Or the date will come and go like March and nothing changes (unlikely with Johnson). HTH.

Camomila · 29/08/2019 09:43

sign petitions
write to your MP
go to marches - DC it'd depend what your town is doing, I think some places are having vigils which sound calmer!

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Soola · 29/08/2019 09:49

Or you could just accept that it’s going to happen (Hooray) and embrace it.

Gilead · 29/08/2019 11:12

Yes, Soola, let's embrace the fact that we now have no say in government policy, no voice. Rees Mogg and Johnson have invoked the divine right of Kings, just like the public schoolboys they are and we have to lie down and take it. Bugger that! It's not about Brexit; it's about the right to a voice within government. Angry

kistanbul · 29/08/2019 11:14

Tell your MP how you feel.

beta.parliament.uk/mps

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CloudyVanilla · 29/08/2019 13:24

The only thing more deplorable than this suspension is the absolute bullshit its public supporters come out with.

So a second vote is highly undemocratic and actually an insult to democracy, but literally suspending parliament so the prime minister is completely autonomous, weeks before a huge life changing even, is absolutely fine.

It’s pathetic to me how little integrity people have, purely because this complete insult to the democratic process falls in their favour - even thought its “totes nothing to do with Brexit”. Grow the hell up and think for yourselves about whether this is really acceptable Angry

Bluntness100 · 29/08/2019 13:32

Why do you have such a problem with him proroguing parliament? It's an intelligent move. He's using the threat of no deal and not paying to get concession from the eu. There is plenty of time when they come back and before the 31 st to stop no deal.

He doesn't want no deal, I don't know how many times he has to say it. The threat of no deal has to be credible enough that the eu give the consessions requires to get the deal we want and brexit through. He keeps saying it over and over again. It's like he's speaking a foreign language people struggle to understand.

He is preventing parliament taking no deal off the table before he can get a concession or we are back to square one. It's not rocket science.

If he doesn't get the consessions then there is plenty of time to prevent no deal and extend again when parliament returns to sit. It's really not complicated.

Cinammoncake · 29/08/2019 13:42

He doesn't want no deal, I don't know how many times he has to say it.

Like how he said he wasn't going to prorogue parliament? He even wrote to his own MPs saying he wouldn't.

He said no deal was a million to one, that was only a few weeks ago. By today he's saying it more like it's 50/50 either way. So it's not a leap to imagine it'll be a definite no deal by about 3 weeks from now. And now he's no longer accountable to parliament as he's shut it down.

It's a mystery to me why people trust him. Look at the evidence. Look at these people. Do you think Jacob Rees Mogg has your interests at heart? seriously?

CloudyVanilla · 29/08/2019 13:52

i don’t trust Boris Johnson, if it is just a negotiating tactic then that’s great, but I don’t feel his background and anything he has said or done points to this being the reason. I don’t agree that it’s very clear that’s what he wants to do either.

This is a confusing mess and if ithe prorogation really does work in Britain’s favour then that’s great, but I stand by the absolute bullshit publicsupport for it as that is certainly not the understanding of the people supporting r, who seem to think no deal is the best thing ever.

I am completely neutral on Brexit now. I have given up my moral views against it but all I want is an outcome that doesn’t complete fuck the majority of the population over with even higher rising costs of living. I have no other moral position on it whatsoever at this point.

CloudyVanilla · 29/08/2019 13:53

Sorry for the poor mobile typing.

DGRossetti · 29/08/2019 13:56

DW uses a wheelchair and we travelled down from Brum for the all London marches. Totally peaceful, very good natured and we left much cheered up at seeing so many children - of all ages - taking part. What a great way to learn about democracy.

The only "downside" was the first march where we seemed to be trapped with an over enthusiastic trombonist Grin

No one should ever be in fear of exercising the right - hard won by our ancestors (not by the current crop of single handed war-winning gobshites) - to demonstrate peacefully on any issue we choose.

Timeaftertime42 · 29/08/2019 13:58

He keeps saying it over and over again. It's like he's speaking a foreign language people struggle to understand.

Oh they understand him alright, they just don't trust a word that comes out of his mouth. Grin

I hope you're right and all of this is a clever negotiating tactic.