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Pls give me the idiots guide to what Boris has just done..

34 replies

SweetKittyT · 28/08/2019 18:15

I'm just through the door after an utterly exhausting day & I haven't the brain power to trawl the news. Can you explain in baby language the significance of what Boris has done today? Many thanks

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Skyejuly · 28/08/2019 18:17

Hear hear!

ElizabethMainwaring · 28/08/2019 18:23

Bump.

picklemepopcorn · 28/08/2019 18:23

Supposedly whenever there is a significant change in government, parliament is suspended so the new team can get their policies together leading to a queens speech about what the6 are going to achieve.

Apparently Boris has just done this, nothing at all to do with reducing the time available to manage the Brexit scenario.

KindergartenKop · 28/08/2019 20:05

The reduction in time for parliament to sit means they can't pass any no deal legislation, so on 31st we go out of the EU without a deal.

KindergartenKop · 28/08/2019 20:06

This may mean that next week the commons will have a vote of no confidence in Boris, triggering a general election.

IAskTooManyQuestions · 28/08/2019 20:07

simplepolitics.co.uk

chomalungma · 28/08/2019 20:10

It's Conference Season coming up soon.
Boris Johnson wants to get on with new leglisation so Parliament needs to be suspended before the new session starts - the Queen's Speech happens at the start.

So they get back, after the recess, have a few days, have a break for the Conference Season, come back and then the Queen's Speech takes place. Oh - and by a coincedence, the Brexit deadline gets closer.

Hazardtired · 28/08/2019 20:18

Johnson is being a cunt and reduced the amount of days MPs have to stop no deal.

The result maybe an epic crisis with MPs setting up a new parliament resulting in two and no one knowing whose in charge.

It's an attempt at a coup due to our constitution we have no set laws in place to actively stop him hence a load of pop up protests in London, Bristol, Manchester, Southampton, Leeds tomo, more on Saturday.

bananagramanam · 28/08/2019 20:23

Please correct me, more informed people, but my understanding is as follows:

When there's been a big change in government (eg. when a new PM comes into post as Boris has just done), it's normal practise for parliament to be suspended (a prorogue) to allow them to set out their priorities. Usually the suspension is for a week or so.

BJ has asked for (and the Queen has approved) a much longer suspension than is typical. That said, it covers a period that possibly could have been 'recess' anyway (during which time most parties would hold their conferences). BJ and co. maintain that their actions are 'business as usual' and in line with normal practise.

Parliament can vote to cancel 'recess' but not against this prorogue. The Queen officially approves it, but until now this has generally been a ceremonial thing, rather than a politicised move against the clear will of parliament.

There is a view held by some that we are in exceptional circumstances with regards to Brexit negotiations, and every second of parliamentary time is vital to get the best possible outcome.

The uproar about this prorogue is linked to the belief that it's a cynical move on BJ's part. By 'stealing' time from active parliament, he is disabling his opponents from developing plans / proposals which could thwart his desired Brexit plans, or put his position as PM in jepordy. It appears that a No Deal Brexit is now much more likely, which comes with its own set of risks.

Have tried to write this in as non partisan a way as possible but not sure I've managed! 😂

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 28/08/2019 20:23

Here is what is happening. Parliament is suspended. In the next 10 days Boris will have the Queen and Phillip sent to the Tower of London. Charles will mysteriously disappear, I'm betting some sort of airplane incident. William will have to give the speech but, because Boris has Kate held hostage, the speech will mostly consist of him handing the crown over to Boris and declaring him the true king. William will then mysteriously disappear and Boris and Kate will marry and rule over the UK. Boris will never stop talking and the press will be charged with treason if they don't report his every word or criticise him. Kate will be standing in the background looking tragic and never speaking a la Melania.

And then it'll be Christmas time, and everyone can eat, drink and be merry. Just not with any food or drink that needs to be imported. Grin

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 28/08/2019 20:35

I think Boris is being a cunt sums it all up pretty nicely.

youarenotkiddingme · 28/08/2019 20:43

Remus that's exactly what I thought as I read Grin

Although I'm also liking the "boris will be king" conspiracy theory too!

Cbawy · 28/08/2019 20:44

banana I'll correct you JOHNSON IS BEING A CUNT and has come up with cuntish reasoning which you've slurped up like soup.

www.anothereurope.org/stopthecoup-join-the-nationwide-wave-of-protests/

ChicCroissant · 28/08/2019 20:47

He's cut down the amount of time MP's will have to object to whatever his Brexit deal/no deal is.

Because he can't negotiate, even with his own MP's never mind the EC, due to being useless (or insert description of own choice here, previous posters have already used the ones I was thinking of)

noblegiraffe · 28/08/2019 20:50

It’s a bunch of rich nobheads treating the future of this country like some jolly debating club and they’ve just come up with some amazing trick that means that the other side have a lot less time to speak.

They’ll all be sloshing champagne and guffawing about how awfully clever they are, and did you SEE the other team’s faces?!

Except it’s not funny, it’s fucking disgraceful because this isn’t a game, it’s an actual country they’re running.

BelleSausage · 28/08/2019 20:56

The real issue here is the timing. Boris has used quite an archaic mechanism to suspend parliamentary procedure at a crucial time for Brexit.

The current session of Parliament is the longest in nearly 400 years, having start in June 2017. This was done to keep parliament working on Brexit. But also slightly cynically to stop Theresa May having to get more than one Queen’s Speech through Parliament.

Because of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act a general election can only be called within the fixed five year period if parliament looses confidence in the government. The two votes that a government must win to keep confidence is The Budget and The Queen’s Speech.

Johnson is playing a dicey game. He’s only got a one vote majority. It is totally possible he is looking to cause an ‘accidental’ No Deal by purposely losing the confidence of parliament before a Queen’s Speech and leaving the country without a functioning government on 31st October.

Hazardtired · 28/08/2019 20:57

Everytime the pound drops Farage and Jacob Reese Moggs go and have a wank over the money they've made.

The pound dropped today after the news broke about the British coup.

They are making money off of this.

BelleSausage · 28/08/2019 20:59

@Hazardtired

You make a good point. All this ‘Brexit for the working man crap’ is laughable. The only ones making money are the rich investment bankers we bailed out in 2008. The working man will get nowt.

bananagramanam · 28/08/2019 21:00

@Cbawy I was obviously much less partisan in that explanation than I thought! No part of me has slurped up any of BJ's nonsense! 😂

Patroclus · 28/08/2019 21:42

Is it time to dig up Oliver Cromwelll again?

neweeeyebrows · 28/08/2019 21:57

@Hazardtired how are they making money from the pound dropping (this might be very obvious and if so, apologies).

OP thanks for starting this thread. I’ve been trying to read the news and work it out for myself. Thinking of joining in with my local protest - this all seems so unfair and just.... wrong.

Cinammoncake · 28/08/2019 22:03

how are they making money from the pound dropping

I'm no expert but I think to do with betting against the pound and disaster capitalism.

Basically BoJo has shut down parliament for most the time up to the Brexit date so he can do what he wants and MPs can't have a say.
aka a dictatorship.

Vikki69 · 28/08/2019 22:34

And i thought that we live in a democracy???
The majority voted to leave the European union.

chomalungma · 28/08/2019 22:48

And i thought that we live in a democracy
The majority voted to leave the European union

Brexit means Brexit
A red, white and blue Brexit.

Etc etc

We could have been in a Customs Union and have left the EU
We could be in a Norway style deal and have left the EU.

All those things are leaving the EU.

But I guess you know that.

Cinammoncake · 28/08/2019 23:31

And i thought that we live in a democracy???

A parliamentary democracy. Oh, wait