Envelope or onvelope?

[AintNobodyHereButUsChickens]

Envelope here, it's clearly an E and not an O!

What do you call a Frenchman in a pair of thong-style sandals?

Philippe Feloppe.

But sore rhymes with Thor!?!

I say four and fore to rhyme with sore and for to rhyme with Thor

They all rhyme in my accent. I love this stuff and hearing how differently people say things

lucked is like me. I also have a different 'oo' sound but I know many who can't hear it. To me book and spoon don't rhyme but I've worked alongside other early years teachers who literally can't hear a difference.

Four = f-oar
For = f-or
Oar and or are different.
I say envelope. Restaurant doesn't have an emphasised t at the end.

February...?

Feb-u-ary
Feb-u-ery
Feb-ru-ary
Feb-ru-ery

Feb uri. As in Yuri Gagarin.

I use whichever I say at the time, same with garage and Bath.

Envelope. It envelops the letter. It doesn't onvelop it

I am proper posh or at least my parents etc were and have spent a lifetime living in France but pronounce both onvelope and envelope, forehead and forrid, a kind of delayed t in restaurant in English, can not pronounce for, fore or four differently, but am puzzled as to an alternative pronunciation of en route.

I had to be taught how to pronounce alternatives to ga-rage, gorne and ak-ross at primary school.

It's all gone astray now.

I’m asking a genuine question. How do you say for and four differently?

It's really hard to explain by way of comparing it to other words when those can be pronounced differently, too!
I'm Scottish. For me "for" has short o sound, like in cot; fore has long o sound, like in more.

My four is more like foor (rhymes with poor) if that makes sense?
For is a quicker sound.

I say ENvelope.

Lido anyone?

I say Onvelope, but mostly as i recall being tapped on the knuckles at school in the 70's for saying En-velope during reading class. 🤨

Artykitty666

lucked is like me. I also have a different 'oo' sound but I know many who can't hear it. To me book and spoon don't rhyme but I've worked alongside other early years teachers who literally can't hear a difference.

Onvelope.

Perhaps people are trying to differentiate the word from envelop?

Bugger, posted too soon. Book and spoon don’t ever ‘rhyme’, but can see how you may make a long ‘ooh’ like in ‘sp-oooh-n’ in some dialects. But in my accent these are completely different. Spoon with an ‘ooh’, book with an almost ‘uhk’ sound. The fore/four/for I can get but it’s so subtle. Read each one aloud think about how you move your mouth differently/think about the shapes someone’s mouth would make in a different accent to your own. It’s hard to transcribe sounds. Also it’s envelope.

The Feb-uary pronunciation sounds plain wrong. It is Feb-ru-ary.

Yes also to eye-thur as opposed to eee-thur.
Ditto neye-thur versus nee-thur.

I really dislike the eeeeeeeeee sound is either of the words above.

Fu-wah =(four)
Faw (rhymes with paw)=For
En-velope

FairyFavour

I have a north east London accent,.so lots of.dropped "t" s etc, with the odd ' fuck' andd ' shit' thrown in for good measuee. Many on MN would say sound common. In any case I definitely do NOT sound posh and I say ONvelope just because it is easier pronounce and sounds better to me . So I don't think it so anything to do with being posh.

"I say four and fore to rhyme with sore and for to rhyme with Thor*

Nope to me, the 'or'.soumd in all of those sounds identical. I can't tell the difference . "Fore" on its own though just like "four" or "for" to me!!!

I do say forrid though instead of fore-head though