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Prams as a status symbol/pram snobbery

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Mamamooligans · 08/08/2019 17:58

So today I was looking at prams and overheard a woman telling who I assume was her mother 'we're only looking at the icandys and bugaboos, I wouldn't be caught dead with anything else.'

Is this a common attitude? To be honest I don't really like the look of most icandys and bugaboos, I think the bucket seats look uncomfy. I don't get why anyone would rule out other brands, surely you want whats comfiest for baby and suits your lifestyle best? Not just based on brand or cost?

Do people choose prams as a status symbol? Do you judge people based on what pram they have?

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ReginaGeorgeous · 08/08/2019 18:52

@lolasmiles I've got an uppababy cruz for my 3 month old, I love it. Massive basket, easy to push and the adjustable handle height is great for us as my husband is nearly a foot taller than me. I don't care if its a brand that's considered out of fashion, I chose it because I thought it would suit my needs Smile

LolaSmiles · 08/08/2019 18:53

Crunchymum
My friend swears by hers. It's done her 2 kids and her husband runs with it. They go for country walks and it holds up on footpaths.

They are not into status symbols at all. Neither are we but we are considering a chameleon or an UppaBaby at the moment (or getting a cheaper pram and then a second one for off road and parkrun etc).

I think it's a case of fitting the purchase into your knowledge or awareness of a person.

Someone who opts for a high value item but is grounded and sensible with cash in general it's probably not a status symbol, but someone who buys the in pushchair, in changing bag, has baby dressed up like a doll all the time, always wants to be seen in the cool places etc is probably more about the image and status symbols

LolaSmiles · 08/08/2019 18:55

ReginaGeorgeous
I'm looking at the Vista for similar reasons but the locking front wheel means (I think) I could also run with it if and when I'm ready to and baby is ready to.
The demo when I looked in store seemed easiest to collapse and use than the others I saw.

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SuzieQ10 · 08/08/2019 18:55

I bought a bugaboo with my first, 5years ago. I have to admit I was taken in by its popularity at the time, most of the mums in my NCT were getting this one. It was expensive but I have to say very good and was used for almost 3 years, and I'll be using it again with number two. Can't be bothered to get anything new. Will give it a good wash and that'll be that.

Bedforaweek · 08/08/2019 18:59

Every time I see those tacky prams with leather bits and matching colour accessories I heave a little discreetly.
Buying for status is obviously lame.
But I do believe that investing in a buggy that suits your needs, whether urban or country etc is very worthwhile.
I live in london: everyone around me has yo-yos. It seems it is THE pushchair for women who are always out and about and regularly hopping onto planes..

GreenTulips · 08/08/2019 18:59

I brought a pram in sale and the assistant told me it was ‘last years colours’

So yes they are ‘pushing’ for Iran’s tobset trends.

Dec2019mumtobe · 08/08/2019 19:01

This is something I've been thinking about a little. DH and I budgeted £800-1000 for a pram. We've got savings that we'd planned to use for baby and I had assumed that's what good prams cost from v limited research (loading up the John Lewis website once haha).

Then, we went to mothercare and tested their 3-wheel Journey travel system. We really liked it and it was on offer. Usually £300 but £229 on offer with the matching changing bag free. I also got a further £10 by using a voucher from a gning up to their mother and baby "club".

I just couldn't justify spending more. We tried out a few of the others but I didn't find much difference, or I didn't like them.

So now I'm worried all the other mums will judge my cheapo pram 🤣🤣🤣

I suppose I shouldn't care what other people think. Maybe I'll judge them for missing such a good bargain.

PoppingOneOutIn2020 · 08/08/2019 19:02

I looked in the sale and on Facebook selling sites because I couldnt be caught dead with a ££££££ pram.

Minimincepies · 08/08/2019 19:03

I know a mum like this - she said at baby groups she decided who was worth talking to by checking out what brand of pram and changing bag they had. But then she also googled the addresses of all the couples at her NCT classes so she could work out their house values. Clearly her priorities are very different to mine!

thetwinkles · 08/08/2019 19:04

I think you're right it is seen as a status symbol for some. Rather like the people who have designer handbags but no job 😂 many prams are sold second hand on selling pages with charms and fur hood attachments added - plus the obligatory super frilly embroidery cosy toe.

JaniceJoplin · 08/08/2019 19:07

I have an original bugaboo bee that I bought 2nd hand in 2010- it’s a 2009 edition. I am still using it today with my third DC. I had a year off when I used the double bugaboo (bought for £1k sold for £700 10 months later), but went back to the bee. I think mine is practically vintage and must be unbercool. I’ve replaced the back wheels twice and had a few different coloured footmuffs but really it’s been quite a bargain.

PoppingOneOutIn2020 · 08/08/2019 19:08

If someone I attended a class with looked up my house value I would put them into my cheap ass pram and roll them down a steep hill. What a cheek!

boosterrooster · 08/08/2019 19:14

I have a bugaboo, it makes me feel so special and does wonders for my baby's self esteem...just kidding.
I bought it second hand from a friend, paid £350 for it. It was scratched and the fabric sun damaged but I liked that it was light and easy to use and to honest at the time I couldn't be arsed with shopping and trying out a whole load of different brands. Friend needed the cash too so it was win win

Teddybear45 · 08/08/2019 19:14

The type of people who buy a designer travel system for the status of it, are also the type of people who through money down the drain 12 months later because it’s gotten too ‘heavy / inconvenient’ etc. A lot of money down the drain.

hexagon01 · 08/08/2019 19:18

Before my first was born I brought a Silver Cross Wayfarer because I thought it looked pretty...got cheaper from their outlet so it was £440 rather than £600 or whatever but I regretted it as soon as my baby was remotely heavy. Awful thing to push, I absolutely hated it. Before he was born someone offered to sell me a Baby Jogger City Mini second hand but I declined because I thought it was ugly. Ha! I got one from Facebook Marketplace eventually and it’s the best thing I bought, can’t wait til baby #2 can go in it. We still have the Silver Cross and very occasionally use it (as it has a carrycot which the City Mini doesn’t) but use the sling 99% of the time. Absolute waste of money, and I didn’t realise I was so vain about prams (I’m not anymore!).

Weathergirl1 · 08/08/2019 19:19

Yes there are people out there like this. As a PP has already pointed out, the only people who will know really what something is/whether it is current season will be other parents with children of around the same age! Same with what patterns of baby grows are this season - I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar people to those who won't touch anything that's second hand.

We've bought an Uppababy Cruz which is obviously quite an expensive one, but with no car, it's going to be used everyday. If we drove everywhere then I'd have looked at cheaper prams but for the use we're expecting to get out of it, it was worth the extra. That said, we did get it 2nd hand on eBay! We'll also be getting a Thule bike trailer/jogger as it'll also get a lot of use (and I'm not towing a cheaper heavier trailer with a road bike!).

I totally agree @thenorthernluce ! I wouldn't touch iCandy with a barge pole - not just for the tacky connotations of 'eye candy' but I can't stand brands that sound like they're trying ingratiate themselves with Apple 🙄

Celebelly · 08/08/2019 19:20

We tested a lot of prams but ended up choosing a Babyjogger City Mini GT. Pretty it is not, but it's a bloody great pram and handles the rough forest tracks we take the dog on like a dream. And it was only £300ish. It does look a bit ugly at baby classes but then some of the people with the fancier looking prams struggle to get their prams up the kerb and into the venues or are unable to fold them easily to make more space so I guess it's just about priorities.

LolaSmiles · 08/08/2019 19:25

Bedforaweek
You're right about choices matching lifestyles.

We are close to the countryside and have a lot of very outdoorsy students and families so it's fairly common for students to wear their walking coats as school coats. That means there's a reasonable number of (mainly boys) who come to school in £100-200 North Face and Rab coats. It makes perfect sense.

What makes less sense are stylish type women who've never seen a spot of mud on their shoes in their life walking around town in their £200 down walking jacket over their leggings and expensive boot outfits on their way to lunch.

When I lived in the middle of nowhere loads of people drove 4x4s. Living there had the standard hazard of snow,floods etc. They were well used cars, often also used for walking, shooting, mountain biking, mountaineering and so on. Expensive? Yes. Status symbol they were not.

Now I live in a small town and there's so many spotless 4x4s driven by the beautiful people or wannabe beautiful people with perfectly coordinated families and they most advanced weather and terrain that car has faced are the speed bumps when it's showering and the kids couldn't walk 3 streets to school. Status symbol it is

Titsywoo · 08/08/2019 19:25

I bought my travel system based on practicality - large shopping basket, car seat that clipped on the pram and had a clip in base for the car, plus the whole thing folded down one handed. This was 15 years ago so I got a graco but I think bugaboos were coming out at this time and I thought they were way too expensive. My graco was a buggy too so got very well used.

IamPickleRick · 08/08/2019 19:27

Totally people like this. One of the mums at school bought a very specific white one from a specialist seller - I’d never seen it before and I’ve had a lot of prams/buggies/pushchairs myself (3 kids, small gap so needed a double prom and pushchair too, and double travel one etc). I find it all a bit showy and pretentious because the pram is for practicality, not for show. What use is a diamond encrusted pram that doesn’t do what you need it to. It’s for baby’s comfort as well.

You’d have to be insane to buy an expensive one because they depreciate the moment they are out of the box.

I had a Babyjogger City Mini GT too and it was the best.

Graphista · 08/08/2019 19:29

Definitely a thing I've noticed with more recent mums, even some inverse snobbery too with a few making much of getting second hand and cheaper models.

Mums going through 3-4 prams per child - utterly ridiculous!

I got a 3 wheeler travel system one for dd (yea I'm old, dd 18 now) it wasn't quite so much of a thing then but i fell for the "3 wheelers are easier to manoeuvre" rubbish, it was a pita!

I bought a VERY cheap umbrella fold (think it was £15?) for a beach holiday thinking it'd probably get trashed on the holiday - that buggy was fabulous! Dd loved it, it was easy to manoeuvre, fit easily in doorways and shops, dead easy to use on public transport or fling in the car, could fold it one handed, massive basket under that could hold a long weekends worth of shopping and as it had 2 "spoke" handles rather than one "bar" handle could pop bags on the handles too! Lasted till dd past the buggy stage, I was the one missed using it as a shopping trolley!

Spending hundreds even thousands on one seems truly daft to me! The kid only cares if they're comfy, mum's priority should be ease of use but too many are more concerned with looks and status.

Occasionalnachos - honestly, please consider actual real life use! A big silver cross carriage style IS gorgeous, it's what my mum had for me - BUT she walked EVERYWHERE, living in a city makes that much easier, AND it was in the days you could safely leave it outside the shop and it wouldn't get nicked! Even with the baby in it! (I know mn would be apoplectic at that now!)

BUT these days you want one you can fit in shop doors without having to wait for someone to open double doors, or praying there automatics, fits down the aisles of narrow shop layouts, not to mention places like gp surgeries, is easily manoeuvrable, that folds easily (seriously some are an engineering feat just to collapse/put up! If you're days post section/painful birth you really don't want that faff with a baby you can't put on the floor!) is comfortable to push and holds a good amount of shopping or whatever.

Soon after I had dd there was a wave of them with crappy tiny baskets and handles you couldn't put bags on, my mum friends at that time HATED this as it's completely impractical.

Re pretty - there's lots can be done to "dress up" even the plainest pram and honestly once baby is here that'll be least of your concerns anyway.

I know at least one person, maybe 3? Who bought prams who had small cars and they didn't check if they could fit it in the car easily (ie without having to fold the rear seats!) before they bought them and ended up having to sell them at a loss and buy prams that fit!

Another factor DEFINITELY worth bearing in mind is how easy it is to get parts and accessories for it, some are much better catered for than others.

My cheapy one being from mothercare meant it was easy to get a sunshade, replacement raincover (friends child trashed original 😡) and cup holder that fit.

rideordie · 08/08/2019 19:29

Look at all the scummy mummies, falling over themselves to tell you 'it'll be smothered in crumbs and snot before you know it' Hmm

I love my Bugaboo Bee5. It's cleaned regularly by me (I like things to be presentable so why wouldn't I clean the pram, something I push almost daily?). It's never had snot on it actually. It's had crumbs but those are easily cleared away. It's taken care of and I like how I could chase the hood colour or whatever else if I fancied a change.

It's so very light too and so easy to push, fabulous in shops not designed for pushchairs.

My DS ALSO likes being in it and it goes up to age 4 too!

MamaFlintstone · 08/08/2019 19:31

Tbh I’ve found the opposite and there’s been almost an inverse snobbery about how little people can pay and mockery of paying a lot. I have an icandy bought from new and paid a lot for it but it’s done at least a mile every day for 20 months now so I’m happy with that. If I was driving everywhere I wouldn’t have spent so much.

MoreSlidingDoors · 08/08/2019 19:33

You’d have to be insane to buy an expensive one because they depreciate the moment they are out of the box.

Anything brand new loses value out of the box.

I research well and buy once. I’m sitting in a nearly 9 year old car which I bought new. The capital cost is currently £8 per day, which is a flipping bargain.

My £800 pram cost around 62p per day of use, and is about to get passed on to a family member, who may well use it for another 3.5 years.

StarlingsInSummer · 08/08/2019 19:38

We got a Jané. Hardly anyone I knew had even heard of them but it was manoeuvrable and folded up easily, and most importantly it had a compatible car seat that laid flat with isofix fittings, so I could drive long distances with DS flat in the back but fully secure. At the time we bought, hardly any car seats did that.

Tiny basket though and DH never stopped going on about that! It was pretty expensive but we bought it in the previous year’s colourways and that saved about 30%.