Evenings in the garden

[swisscheeseplant]

Up to what time is it reasonable to sit and talk in the garden? Normal volume conversation. No neighbours with children

10pm

11

As late as you like I'd say, it's your garden. No different to people having the TV on late.

@BlueBuilding I want to be reasonable.

DS is having 3 friends over tonight - I have one set of neighbours who complain about everything.

Last night they complained that DS was sitting in the garden talking to one friend at 10 30. I was in bed in a room directly above where DS and friend were sitting and couldn't hear them. We have checked with the other neighbours and they said they couldn't hear anything either. I don't want to disturb people, but I would also like DS and I to be able to enjoy the garden.

The neighbours are very angry people and have alienated almost everyone since they arrived.

My neighbours have been up until 2am last three nights. Drinking and screeching loudly!

I had a bbq the other evening and we had radio on (not too loud we could talk normally). But at 11pm music off and moved to the end of the garden to fire pit and spoke quietly.

As late as you want if you are just sitting and talking.

I'd say all night if you're only taking to be honest

The benchmark for me would be the reasonable neighbours, not the awful ones who start arguments.

I don't think what you describe is bad at all, and I say that with 3 kids. Obviously a huge party is a different ball game, but people talking in the garden is to be expected.

I have already told him music at a low volume and turned off at 10.30

Weekdays 10ish.

What you've told him sounds fair enough, if they are just sitting chatting in garden.

I'd cut more slack about this sort of thing in the present heatwave, because it's just so hot sitting round indoors, so I understand why people would stay outside. As long as they are talking quietly rather than screeching or laughing loudly, I'd be fine up till midnight. In normal weather I'd say 10-ish during the week.

They do sound miserable.

But to be fair, if they knew he was there they must've been able to hear him.

10 on weekdays and 11 at weekends. Most neighbours would be ok for later for a very occasional weekend party, with notice. @BlueBuilding , your viewpoint on this is unreasonable.

to be fair, if they knew he was there they must've been able to hear him.

More likely the fact that the patio lights were on

Stay out until you get too cold or tired or fed up with the bugs. People do that around here and it's no bother.

I think to be honest, people have windows open are lying in the dark going to bed at their usual time, cannot sleep because of the heat and are blaming it on the neighbours. Quietly talking is not unreasonable. In our old house we could hear next door snoring when the windows were open in the summer.

No music and 10.30 would be reasonable IMO. Music is far more annoying than talking.

No music and no raised voices - any time really. We have a weird auditory effect where it sounds like next door’s kids are right outside our bedroom window, when we’re detached and there’s a shed in the way. It’s not great, they’re little and in this weather they’re out early, but can’t be helped.

BlueBuilding , your viewpoint on this is unreasonable....in your opinion.

They're no laws on speaking outside after a certain time. Don't be ridiculous.

I agree I don't think there needs to be a curfew if talking quietly.

10/11 seems very early to me.

Whenever as long as there wasn’t music or drunken shrieking. Normal conversation is okay 👍🏼

10pm. People taking in their houses is different to talking under open windows of neighbours trying to sleep.

It’s fine.

My neighbour last night singing baritone ‘delilah’ pissed till midnight however was not fine.