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Weird situation with DD and friends

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Ahardyfool · 19/07/2019 19:08

DD is 19 and have some issues with anxiety and processing skills. She is also 2 years recovered from an Eating Disorder just to set the scene so I’d describe her as very naive and somewhat ‘behind’ developmentally for her age. Not massively but it is somewhat relevant to this situation.

She is working at her first job and has her first ‘proper’ boyfriend as of March this year. The last couple of months she and her BF have been hanging out with another couple - the friendship was between DD’s BF and the lad in this couple initially and a fairly new friendship between them also. So now they hang out as 2 couples. They don’t do much but the lad has a car whereas the others don’t and he also has a pool at home so they go out and eat, or chill out in his pool, etc. They’ve also been camping as a group recently.

The issue is that the other couple have started to massively control everything. They wait for my DD after work in the car outside our house, today they followed her back from work and INSIST Dd comes out with them virtually every night and if DD says she fancies a night in they barrage her with messages until she agrees, sometimes becoming quite aggressive.

DD has tried to set some boundaries as it’s getting a bit much (not her greatest skill as she’s very easily persuaded and a people pleaser) and she’s also feeling she never sees her BF just the two of them. The other couple have verbally laid into her - at ken point a week ago she was being made to apologise to them all for being moody and off with them. I was pretty irate about that ridiculous load of rubbish but left DD to sort it out her own way. We have her some words of advice but left her to decide how she’d like to work things out.

Yesterday DD was very distracted at home and it turned out the girl in the other couple was messaging her and berating her for not wanting to take a day off work to come out with them all. DD again tried to get them to back off and spend the evening at home but agin they pressured her into hanging out with them. They often pressure her to take days off work to suit them (she works a Saturday - they don’t) but so far she has resisted as her job means a lot to her as does her credibility as an employee. I am proud of her for this.

I am highly suspicious (with some evidence of this) that she pays for much of what they do as she is brilliant at saving and works hard whereas the others either don’t work, work less hours or have debt.

Today DD told me that they have told her she should work different days at work (daughter changed her days due to an issue at work and is happy with arrangements) and that the issue shouldn’t be an issue and she must rearrange her work schedule to suit them. Wtf?

They also told her to stop taking her antidepressants and that they are just sugar and don’t do anything. Again WTAF?!!

Am I being unreasonable to think something is quite sinister about all this. I realise daughter needs to woman up a bit and have better boundaries but that’s no excuse for this trio trying to constantly harass and gaslight her is it?!

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OnTheEdgeOfTheNight · 21/07/2019 22:36

It might not be easy, but it'll be worthwhile. She's lucky to have you on her side.

Bookworm4 · 24/07/2019 23:01

I wonder how OP and her DD are.

Ahardyfool · 30/07/2019 07:35

I thought I’d come back and provide a brief update as I’m really very grateful for the great advice given and also validation of my concerns. DD and her BF have split up (it’s been around a week) and DD is spending a bit of time with a friend from work who is the sweetest young woman and really encouraging DD to put herself first and stand up for herself. Of course, DD is more receptive to the words of wisdom from a friend than she would be me so that’s great. I’ve been able to talk to her a little more about controlling relationships and spotting the signs. I’ve also spoken to a local domestic abuse support agency so that if we ever need it we can refer her in to one of their young people programmes. DD isn’t ready for this yet but it’s there if she needs it. The breakup was mutual but personally I think her BF was warned off a bit by DD telling him that we were uneasy about things and were planning on contacting parents of it didn’t stop. Perhaps he realised that even if she wasn’t saying it, somebody was recognising what was going on and it wasn’t just going to continue in secret. The stupid brat started by texting her to F off and then “goodbye until further notice” as if he was the one who decided whether the relationship was on or off so DD texted back to say “I don’t know that I want to be with you anymore” and which was a step in the assertive direction and then a few conversations later it was all over. I keep reminding DD that she was not happy in the relationship either so she doesn’t need to feel like she’s been left or ‘dumped’ and that she can own the joint decision to call it a day so as to feel more empowered. I hope she has learned something from all of this. She’s sad, lonely and her eating is problematic at the moment but I think that’s to be expected for any of us going through a break up. I’ll plan some nice activities for us over the summer to help her feel more positive again. Thank you all.

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Bezalelle · 30/07/2019 08:08

That's great news, OP! I've been wondering how things turned out. Well done for supporting your DD.

Binglebong · 30/07/2019 08:08

Really glad that it's a positive outcome, even if it doesn't quite feel like that right now. You've done a great job looking after DD. Flowers

SleepWarrior · 30/07/2019 18:00

It would be worrying if she just breezed on unaffected by it all because you'd wonder if she'd really learned anything from it.

This is the best outcome - you kept dialogue open and she has listened to your concerns and not shut you out. She feels like she had some control in the breakup so not totally powerless and passive, and the new friend hopefully gives her something nice to move on to (and will keep her strong if they come crawling back).

Really pleased for you and your dd.

OnTheEdgeOfTheNight · 30/07/2019 18:06

It sounds like she's handled it really well. I hope she begins to feel better soon. The new work friend should help.
The gang of them sounded like con men in training. They saw you were onto them and didn't even try to prove their worth.

Bluetrews25 · 30/07/2019 18:59

Glad to hear the relationship is over.
As regards eating disorders (used to work in this field), apparently emotional development stops when the ED starts. So you are correct to give her the extra guidance you would someone a bit younger. And that's obviously not taking into account the suspected ASD.
Hope she heals and moves on.

Ahardyfool · 06/08/2019 22:50

I have another update for anyone following and particularly for anyone reading this in a similar situation. The comments about Mate Crime really opened my eyes to what was happening and the reading I subsequently did really opened my eyes up to this problem. I’d saved and shared with DD some of the links I found after reading comments here and eventually DD confided in me that she had loaned the girl from the other couple a total of £165 on top of everything she’d paid for on their jaunts (including a tent for camping and petrol and food and drink). The first £65 was requested when the girl apparently had no cash for visiting her elder sister for her graduation ceremony. This was not paid back. The next £100 was for a garden hose which the girl apparently broke (I’ll eat my hat if that is the truth) at her boyfriend’s family’s home and she was worried they’d find out. Again DD stumped up for. Both transactions were via bank transfer so we have the evidence. The group have gone on to block DD across all social media/communication platforms and girl is claiming the money was a gift.

DD have talked and we have rung MenCap together to specifically talk through what has happened. They were great and an officer rang DD right back to talk some more and sent links to support resources. DD is now following their advice and reported to the police via 101 as a disability hate crime and officers are coming out to interview her tomorrow.

I’m so proud of DD in taking control of this situation and hope that this helps her heal following what has happened, regardless of whether she gets her money back.

For anyone else in this kind of scenario I recommend mencap and ARC as organisations to contact. I wouldn’t have known where to turn initially but they have been very helpful. You can also report this type of crime at report-it.org.uk

Thank you mumsnetters for your insight and support.

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Weezol · 06/08/2019 23:06

A great update - DD should be very proud of reporting this, it show immense courage and integrity.

This is also a huge reflection on you as parents, and you really should celebrate how you have handled this as a family.

TremblingFanjo · 06/08/2019 23:13

Wow that is brave of your DD - she's come so far and has really stood up for herself here.

Sewrainbow · 06/08/2019 23:19

Great update- well done dd !

HollowTalk · 06/08/2019 23:24

What a fantastic update. I hope that the police take it seriously. Your daughter sounds lovely.

Brittany2019 · 06/08/2019 23:32

I’m so pleased for yourself and your daughter and I hope things continue to get better from now on. You’ve both handled this amazingly well. Bravo! Xx

Betsy86 · 06/08/2019 23:52

Just rtft and I’m so pleased at the outcome you must be really proud of your dd and she must feel good knowing she has such supportive family.
Bravo to dd for reporting this she really is fantastic they were not friends at all disgusting behaviour and im so pleased your dd is out of it now!xx

Emma330912 · 07/08/2019 00:15

Was reading & had to comment! Well done to your DD! It's great that you took all those steps together too! She's super lucky to have such attentive parents xx

Pantsomime · 07/08/2019 00:32

Brill job OP your DDs confidence must be way higher than before/ well handled all of you.

Hazardtired · 07/08/2019 00:48

You handled this tricky situation beautifully and your DD has done you proud Flowers

Broken11Girl · 07/08/2019 02:43

These people are to put it mildly, not her friends. Sadly, there isn't much you can actually do. You can however support her.
I probably haven’t over the years helped matters greatly by not being wonderful at allowing my DC enough space to figure things out themselves. I’m not at all controlling but I do find it hard to not help them by over talking when there are problems. Sometimes silence on my part would have been better
This, and good on you fur recognising it.
Do not go in all guns blazing, you will only drive her closer to them.
Can you 'need her help' to cook a meal, clean etc? Or do an activity together? Do not bring the subject up. I'm much older and have been in a different way 'vulnerable' and have often wished my mother would just shut up and listen. It's amazing how teens, (and she is clearly emotionally much younger than 19 by the sound of it, more like 14/15?) open up when apparently occupied doing something alongside a trusted adult. Good luck.

Broken11Girl · 07/08/2019 02:47

Oh just saw your updates, great 👍

Mog6840 · 07/08/2019 02:59

Well done to to you and your DD for taking control of the situation & putting a stop to it.

Years ago by DBro was a victim of mate crime. He has mental health issues & is on the autistic spectrum. He ended up in a very intense controlling friendship with someone who befriended him after learning he had come into a significant inheritance. By the time we realised what was really going on Dbro had 'loaned' this person thousands of pounds and by the time the police got involved he couldn't be found.

I'd never even heard of mate crime before then. But unfortunately it's a real thing.

GirlRaisedInTheSouth · 07/08/2019 03:06

Yep, do what you can to get her out of this situation. It has nothing to do with her age, even if she was in her forties it would still be reasonable for a parent to intervene.

She sounds vulnerable and it DOES sound like they are grooming her in some way. You need to get to the bottom of it OP. Good luck and please let us know how you get on.

Feelingwalkedover · 07/08/2019 06:44

Excellent news op...really happy for you ,just read the full thread ,makes for thought provoking reading,I have 2 sons with asd ,the older one is desperate for a friend ,and I could see a situation like this happening to us ..massively helped me for the future your thread ,I will be alert for anything similar xx

Missingstreetlife · 07/08/2019 08:43

Well done op. For future reference, or anyone else in this situation. Your daughter is a vulnerable young person/adult. Therefore safeguarding in your local social services and local police could investigate and advise. Maybe a good idea to notify them anyway because these predators will have other victims. Not sure if the boyfriend is in the gang or also vulnerable, I would alert his family too, if police agree.

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