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Questions for American and other international/non uk mners

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Graphista · 26/06/2019 23:04

I love learning about other cultures and lifestyles. Lived in Europe myself for a while but a long time ago now. Never been outside Europe though.

Pure curiosity prompted by watching tv shows and films made outside uk.

What's the difference between a condo and an apartment?

Do you have semi detached houses in America? Terraced? I ask because I think they must be called something else there.

What's the equivalent of our going to Spain & similar on package holidays where you are? What type of holidays do ordinary families have?

What about things considered traditionally British? Do other countries do Sunday dinner? On Sunday's or different days?

As someone who was a mature student twice I've also noticed that this isn't something that's portrayed on American tv, or even particularly on Australian or New Zealand output so is that because it's not a "thing" outside the uk or just a weird skewing due to scriptwriters?

What about gap years? Again American shows seem to have youngsters going straight to uni from high school if they're going to go.

Also there's a lot of talk of saving for kids to go to uni but I'm guessing there's support for students from poorer backgrounds? How does that work?

What are bank holidays like where you live? What do people do for them? Are they called public holidays or something else?

Drink driving seems to be very socially acceptable in the states, is that accurate?

Is "soccer mom" slang for sahm?

I got the impression going to summer camp was a thing a lot of American kids did, but then a friend said she'd been a camp counsellor years ago (not American) and that they're quite expensive so it's better off families that do this?

What's childcare like where you are? Again seems to be that in America and also Canada that pretty much anyone can set up a daycare business or be a Daytime "babysitter" (what we'd call a childminder)? Is it not well regulated?

Do American families really tend toward having cooked breakfasts of some description? There seems to be a lot of making pancakes, waffles, eggs & bacon in tv shows (makes me hungry!)

For other mners living in various countries what is the usual breakfast where you are?

When I lived in Europe when I was in hospital the meals were of course based on the norm for where I was living, but for me as a Brit it still felt odd having breads/crackers, cheeses, relishes and pastries for breakfast (I'm veggie, for non veggies there was also deli meats, sausage). I'm fascinated when I read articles on breakfasts around the world and see things like pickled fish, rice dishes even stews!

But then as a Scot I'm reminded of that "highlander" movie script section (a bizarrely cast film where a Frenchman is playing a Scot and a Scot an Egyptian with a Spanish name and a broad Edinburgh accent!) where Connor describes haggis to Juan and Juan is disgusted at the sound of it! So yea I appreciate a glasgow fry which can of course include fried slice of haggis, along with Lorne sausage, tattie scones, black pudding, white pudding, bacon, fried eggs, fried bread, mushrooms, tomatoes and baked beans.

Baked beans - that's another thing. It was one of the few things I bought at the naafi because British baked beans don't taste like baked beans from anywhere else. I Also bought marmite, white sliced (I liked European bread but sometimes our doughy white bread toasted and buttered was needed for the perfect beans on toast or fried egg sandwich)

So...tell me about real life in the rest of the world? I'm sure other mners will also have questions.

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SenecaFalls · 29/06/2019 22:41

Cuban cuisine in popular in my neck of the woods. It's not hot-spicy like a lot of Mexican food, but more like Spanish cuisine. Very tasty.

bluetongue · 29/06/2019 23:31

Loads of Indian and Chinese restaurants in Australian cities. We had Chinese immigrants come to Australia in the 1850’s during the gold rush. More recently there has been a large amount of Chinese and Indians that have migrated to Australia.

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 29/06/2019 23:34

In Korea, the two main foreign foods are Chinese and Japanese (not surprisingly). Vietnamese and Italian is popular too, and other types like Mexican are also getting more popular but mainly with young people. The quality varies a lot though, it's heavily localised.

I'm not a huge fan of Japanese food as I don't like fish. Chinese usually has three main dishes - sweet and sour pork, black bean noodles and jjambbong which is spicy seafood stew.

It's strange when you consider British Chinese menus will have around 100 things, but in Korea, it's really those three things every time. Often dumplings too.

Also, since they eat kim chi with every meal, even Italian food or fried chicken has a side of pickles. It's really unthinkable for most to eat a meal without a sour side dish.

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barkingfly · 30/06/2019 03:06

Gambling is very much local option in California-I think cities can legalize card clubs only. For slots and Vegas style gambling, you have to go to an Indian Casino, which, being on tribal land, is technically not part of California.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:10

What's the difference between a condo and an apartment?
You rent an apartment and you own a condo.
They are both basically flats, in multi-unit buildings.

Do you have semi detached houses in America? Terraced? I ask because I think they must be called something else there.
Yes.
Semi Ds are called duplexes (in the midwest anyway).
Terraces are called townhomes if they are new. Rowhouses if old.

What's the equivalent of our going to Spain & similar on package holidays where you are? What type of holidays do ordinary families have?
Going to Cancun or some other Mexican resort.
Going to Las Vegas.
Most people here go to the Gulf Coast - anywhere from Texas to Florida - if they are going long haul.
I am in Illinois and most people staying closer to home (the majority) go to Michigan or Wisconsin, particularly Door County Wisconsin and places like St Joseph in Michigan an in that area of SW Michigan generally, though frequently further up the LP on the Michigan side. Many people own a holiday cottage in either WI or MI. Distances are driveable - 5-6 hours at most and there are lots of rental cottages to choose from, many small lakes besides the big lake. It is kind of a tradition where I am for kids to go to someone's family's lake house for the rest of prom weekend once the event itself is over.
In winter people decamp to the Caribbean (younger set) or to Arizona or Florida (older people).

What about things considered traditionally British? Do other countries do Sunday dinner? On Sunday's or different days?
No special Sunday dinner tradition though people with a strong sense of Italian heritage do Soprano style cooking for the multitudes and come to think of it, exMIL (not Italian) gave the family immense grief for ducking out of dinner at her home on Sundays. No special food served.

What about gap years? Again American shows seem to have youngsters going straight to uni from high school if they're going to go.
Gap years are becoming more popular, depending on family financial resources as in the UK. However, many American teens do summer trips with their high schools (to Costa Rica for marine biology or ecology courses for instance) or they do fairly expensive experiences abroad on exchanges, or volunteering projects that last 2-3 months, or a long sports camp or academic immersion at a university. Summer break is long enough that students can pack in a lot of the sort of experiences British students must wait for until just before university.

Also there's a lot of talk of saving for kids to go to uni but I'm guessing there's support for students from poorer backgrounds? How does that work?
There is institutional financial aid available from universities themselves for students from families with total income of $150k or less. The lower the income the more you might be offered. Institutional finaid is basically a write off of the total or part of the cost of attendance (which is room and board plus tuition). There are 66 universities that offer to meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. They are the most highly selective universities so most students won't be able to take advantage of that. But other universities can often offer decent proportions of aid. Then there are government backed loans that are not due until six months after graduation, and there is the Pell grant which is (iirc) $5k annually for the most needy students. This is a grant not a loan. Most parents have no way of affording university and most students will not be accepted in a university that offers a 100% writeoff. Parents end up remortgaging a house or taking out loans that they service until the student can take over payments. Or the DCs take out the loans and the parents service them until the DC graduates. Payments are due the month after these private educational loans are issued. American students tend to have jobs and getting a good job upon graduation is essential because there is no minimum income below which you don't have to make student loan payments. Hence the current hot issue in the 2020 political scene.

What are bank holidays like where you live? What do people do for them? Are they called public holidays or something else?
They are called public holidays. You can look them up on a US calendar. Most states observe all the federal holidays. Some states or even cities have a few state holidays as well - an example is Pulaski Day in Illinois where there is a big Polish polulation in Chicago. Washington DC gets the most public holidays.

Drink driving seems to be very socially acceptable in the states, is that accurate?
Drunk driving is not acceptable, but driving home from a game or dinner or a BBQ after downing a few beers is considered reasonable as long as you are not above the legal blood alcohol limit or impaired.
There is an upper limit in most states for blood alcohol levels while behind the wheel.
Penalties for drunk driving are quite serious.

Is "soccer mom" slang for sahm?
No, it's like 'stage mother' in some regards. Or more usually it denotes a demographic - someone who has the income and time to devote to her children's sports and a car big enough to schlep her own children and maybe most of their teams to games and practices and on long trips to weekend tournaments where overnight stays in motels are paid for out of their own pockets. It also refers to mothers who live in the suburbs of major cities where soccer has established itself as opposed to rural areas where American football still reigns supreme.
There is also 'hockey mom' (Sarah Palin for example). Hockey moms tend to think the sun shines forth from the butts of their sons. Soccer moms could have either sons or daughters playing (I suppose technically hockey moms could too but hockey mom tends to refer to a mother who could be described as having 'traditional' ideas about the roles of men and women).

I got the impression going to summer camp was a thing a lot of American kids did, but then a friend said she'd been a camp counsellor years ago (not American) and that they're quite expensive so it's better off families that do this?
Yes, they are expensive. Unless they are run by the YMCA or some charity.

What's childcare like where you are? Again seems to be that in America and also Canada that pretty much anyone can set up a daycare business or be a Daytime "babysitter" (what we'd call a childminder)? Is it not well regulated?
It is regulated to some extent, depending on the state. You can have a certain number of paying children on top of your own children before you have to get certification. Many women earn unofficial money by having an extra baby or toddler in their care at home or by nannying. There are also childcare businesses that are well regulated, inspected, taxpaying, etc. Not necessarily good value or a good environment but regulated.

Do American families really tend toward having cooked breakfasts of some description? There seems to be a lot of making pancakes, waffles, eggs & bacon in tv shows (makes me hungry!)
This would be a weekend thing. It's the definition of 'happy family vibe' to do this on a Saturday or Sunday. See the movie 'Shrek' when Donkey gets all misty eyed and says 'And in the morning, I'm going to make waffles' for a funny moment based on this.

Now to RTFT Smile

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:15

"An apartment is rented, a condominium is owned." How odd to have different names purely on that basis. Like it's anyone's business whether someone rents or owns!
Nobody cares whether you rent or own. Status is not dependent on that sort of detail.
Just to confuse you, condo owners can rent out their units, depending on the condo association by-laws.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:19

maloofhoof Thu 27-Jun-19 00:04:55

I've also wondered about Christmas in America. In films they never seem to have a Christmas lunch/dinner. It seems once presents are opened it's much like a normal day. I landed in America on Christmas day a few years ago. Everywhere was open as usual, shops, cinemas etc.

Not all Americans are Christians. Though many businesses open on Christmas Day, many have greatly reduced hours. Cinemas are open - it's a big day to launch a winter blockbuster.

Many people do have a Christmas dinner, though lunch is eaten too, mainly in the south. It may not be turkey, roast potatoes and plum pudding but people have their own family traditions. Many people have Christmas dinner on Christmas Eve, which is a tradition that comes from Germany.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:22

But for Americans that DO celebrate Christmas, I wondered what a typical American Christmas Day would be like.
maloofhoof

There is no typical Christmas Day in America for people celebrating.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:41

So in addition to being owned is a condo more like a maisonette?

No.

Where I am most condo buildings are basically older apartment buildings that were bought by a redeveloper who put in new kitchens and bathrooms and peeled old linoleum off floors and refinished them, redid the electricity, and sold each individual unit for $2-300,000. So the condo you live in and make mortgage payments on today could have been your parents' first apartment.

There are purpose built condo buildings too, and new purpose built apartment buildings.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:43

Ginger1982
Does everyone have a 'doorman' in US cities? And does everyone send their laundry 'out?'

No to the doormen.

There are lots of dry cleaners in urban and suburban areas, and lots of self serve laundromats where you go and do your own laundry.

Many people never iron, just fold hot clothes very precisely when they come out of the dryer.

People who need ironed clothes for work tend to get them dry cleaned and starched.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:49

Wrt pot roast
A pot roast is a dish made from a certain cut of beef not suitable for roasting, usually chuck, cut very thick and weighing about four lbs.

You simmer it over moderate heat for a few hours until it gets tender, with carrots, onions, can of tomatoes, herbs, S&P, maybe a dash of Worcestershire sauce. Usually served with mashed potatoes.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 05:57

Also is there much less choice in the US regarding school choice? Everyone just goes to their local catchment school?

You have no choice, which makes where you live and what neighbourhood you can afford a really important question.

You could pay for private school, where they accept anyone from anywhere.

The upside of the school district system (catchment) is that the public schools are obliged to educate everyone within the district, no matter how many, what disabilities, what educational needs.

So for instance my local high school has a creche for the babies and toddlers of students and teachers and the local area, it has a huge special ed division, it has a massive range of maths and comp sci and engineering type classes available because some students arrive ready for university level STEM courses. It also offers cooking, automotive tech and other 'vocational' courses. You can leave school with a practical nursing certification.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 06:11

Betting was associated with dissolute living and damage to families - so there was an impetus to making or keeping it illegal similar to that behind Prohibition. Also, betting was associated with organised crime, and for that reason many states banned it. Las Vegas was founded by the Chicago Outfit and remains quite dodgy from the pov of where all the money goes and how much is laundered there even though it is a major bona fide vacation and entertainment destination.

Sashkin · 30/06/2019 06:15

I moved to Toronto last year, so can answer there from a Canadian POV. Toronto is pretty different to most of the rest of Canada though, so somebody in Thunder Bay might have a different experience.

What's the difference between a condo and an apartment?
Condos are specifically tower blocks with indoor corridors (like a hotel) and communal facilities (gym, pool, roof terrace garden etc). Condo association is like a residents’ association. Apartment is s more general term.

Do you have semi detached houses in America? Terraced? I ask because I think they must be called something else there
We have semis, they don’t have a specific name. More common are duplexes (maisonettes). We also have plenty of terraces (there’s a lot of Victorian housing stock left in central Toronto), they are called row houses or townhouses. US Brownstones are also terraces. NY, Boston and Philly definitely have them, I think Detroit and Chicago do too. East coast, basically.

What's the equivalent of our going to Spain & similar on package holidays where you are? What type of holidays do ordinary families have?
People have a lot less annual leave here! Two weeks is totally normal (bloody US influence). But Mexico/the Caribbean are the cheap sun options. People in Toronto like going over to the Maritimes/PEI as well (more like a traditional British seaside holiday). Or people go camping/canoeing.

What about things considered traditionally British? Do other countries do Sunday dinner? On Sunday's or different days?
Pubs here serve Sunday roasts at tea time Hmm

As someone who was a mature student twice I've also noticed that this isn't something that's portrayed on American tv, or even particularly on Australian or New Zealand output so is that because it's not a "thing" outside the uk or just a weird skewing due to scriptwriters?
Lots of people go later. And it is portrayed by scriptwriters, have you seen Community? In UK terms the characters are mature students at an ex-poly.

What about gap years? Again American shows seem to have youngsters going straight to uni from high school if they're going to go
People go to university at 17 here, so they are a bit too young to go travelling. But lots defer uni to work first and save up. It just isn’t called a Gap Year. And lots of people work overseas teaching English etc after graduation.

Also there's a lot of talk of saving for kids to go to uni but I'm guessing there's support for students from poorer backgrounds? How does that work?
Loans, or like I say they go later once they’ve saved up.

What are bank holidays like where you live? What do people do for them? Are they called public holidays or something else?
Public holidays. People have barbecues or go away for the weekend.

Drink driving seems to be very socially acceptable in the states, is that accurate?
In Canada it’s all about the stoned driving these days. Weed was legalised last year, there’s a series of cringingly bad public service announcements about how “it’s cool to get high, but it’s not cool to drive high” (I’m not paraphrasing).

Is "soccer mom" slang for SAHM?
It’s what Basic Beckys grow up into. Imagine a Gap model in her 40s. It’s a specific subset of white middle class SAHM.

What's childcare like where you are? Again seems to be that in America and also Canada that pretty much anyone can set up a daycare business or be a Daytime "babysitter" (what we'd call a childminder)? Is it not well regulated?
Not like the UK. There are a wide variety of settings, and the cheaper options are completely unregulated. My nurse practitioner has a horror story of finding her toddler eating dog food out of the dog bowl when she picked him up from the cheap one-woman-ten-babies set up she was using. Lots of my colleagues have cheap live-in Filipino nannies, whose visas they have sponsored, who also do housework. Sounds exploitative, honestly. We use the local university nursery, and that is inspected, and is very similar to his old UK nursery. It costs almost $2000 per month for not particularly flexible hours though, so I can see why people choose other options.

Do American families really tend toward having cooked breakfasts of some description?
Weekend brunch is a big thing in Toronto, weekday breakfasts seem to be toast or cereals for most people.

Baked beans
We can get Heinz baked beans over here but they taste wrong. You have to seek out specific Heinz “British style” baked beans, which have less sugar and salt.

Decent cheese is hard to get, apparently due to the Ontario dairy industry having a monopoly - vintage cheddar is literally more expensive than parmesan. $15 for 400g. Ironically I used to buy Canadian cheddar in Sainsbury’s in the UK for less than half that.

Other things: Canada is multi-ethnic but very monocultural which seems really weird to UK eyes. The recent NBA finals is a case in point - the Toronto Raptors won, and the whole city was Raptors-crazy for a month. Literally no other topic of conversation. Not remotely acceptable to say you weren’t a basketball fan, or weren’t really following it. That would have been like saying “you could see both sides” during the Blitz. My toddler even painted a “Go Raps” mural in nursery that they stuck up in the corridor. There were “We The North” signs up everywhere. Train drivers made announcements about it. It was like it was the Olympics or something. Far worse than World Cup fever.

There are Canadian flags on everything. Canadians really really love Canada in a way that British people really do not love the UK. You see companies with slogans like “Canada’s rug steam-cleaning services”. It’s weird. It’s Canada Day this weekend and people are out celebrating how amazing Canada is with face painting and fireworks and red and white themed foodstuffs. Canada Goose is super-popular here and I am sure having the word “Canada” in the name is responsible for 99% of that.

Tim Hortons is a doughnut and coffee shop that is a) a bit shit, kind of like Greggs, and b) as beloved by Canadians as M&S is by British people. Their crap coffee and cheap baked goods symbolise the unpretentiousness that reflects Canadians’ self-image. You go and play ice hockey with your kids, then drive to Tim Hortons. That’s the Canadian Dream.

mathanxiety · 30/06/2019 06:32

'Community' is about students at a community college.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_college They are not like ex-polys.

Sashkin · 30/06/2019 06:54

I know, I was trying to find the nearest equivalent in UK terms. They are a) cheaper, b) not as academically rigorous, c) more likely to be attended by poorer/POC/mature PT students working alongside their degrees and d) often offer more vocational courses. Not as prestigious as a four year college.

feesh · 30/06/2019 07:18

Middle East here (which I know is a dirty word on here, so hopefully this will help with a bit of cross-cultural understanding and respect):

Do you have semi detached houses? Terraced?

Arabian houses tend to be built in compounds, with a wall around them. Extended families would have a house each within the compound and there would be staff such as security and gardeners on duty looking after it. Each house will also have household staff such as drivers, nannies and maids (who either live inside the house, or in little cottages outside the main houses). This culture also maps across to houses built for westerners, which are also typically done as compounds, with a secure entrance and often containing a club house with a community room, pool and gym to try and entice tenants. I have noticed that the biggest, fanciest houses that the locals live in tend to be as close to big roads and junctions as possible - I think it’s a status thing. It baffles me because they are so close to the noise and pollution.

What's the equivalent of our going to Spain & similar on package holidays where you are?

We all tend to do staycations within the Gulf a lot. Locals will often have families in other Gulf countries and do a lot of travel between the two. Staycations are great as there are loads and loads of amazing high quality hotels which are really off the beaten track, eg up in the mountains or out in the desert. Oman is always worth a trip as the scenery is stunning, there is amazing wildlife, the locals are friendly and hard working (and humble with it), and there are no big shiny skyscrapers ruining Muscat.

Do other countries do Sunday dinner? On Sunday's or different days?

On Fridays, the locals all go to Friday prayers when they wake up (around 11am) and then to home for a sleep and family time - I understand that this family time involves a big amount of food. In the evening they then all go to the malls or parks - the roads are crazy in the evenings, especially on Fridays, and I tend to stay at home to avoid it all. If you go to a mall in the morning, you won’t see any locals as they tend to stay up very late and sleep late in the morning.

Expats sometimes go to brunch as a special treat on Fridays - it’s all you can eat and drink from 12-4pm and all the hotels do it. It tends to get quite boozy. There are usually special rooms set up for the kids, with bouncy castles, face painting, films and special food, or in some hotels you can use the beach or pool after.

What about Uni?

Depending on which Gulf country, the locals can be quite entitled and are guaranteed a VERY high paid, cushy government job without really trying (and even then, most of them don’t bother going to work every day or even working a full day). However, there are some who are breaking the mould - interestingly, it seems to be mostly women. The men don’t seem to be so incentivised to change their ways. There are some absolutely awesome women really making huge advances to society eg as surgeons and especially as engineers in the oil industry, which some may be surprised to read. They seem a lot more motivated to use their opportunity to learn and make a difference. I can think of loads of women who are making huge waves here in science, the environment and the arts, but very few local men.

To incentivise the locals to get an education they often get a very good salary paid by the government while they are at uni - I was looking at medical degrees on a uni website a few weeks ago and saw that the locals get a grant of £10000 per MONTH to study medicine there!!!!! Whereas us expats have to pay.

What are bank holidays like where you live?

Absolutely bonkers. They quite often change them at the last minute, usually springing surprise ones with very little notice, or deciding to close schools for spurious reasons such as football matches or state visits.

Many are linked to the moon and cannot be officially announced until the night before, and sometimes the government randomly decides to give us the whole week off if the holiday is going to fall mid week.

The public sector get more holidays, because it’s mostly locals working in the public sector and the government has to keep them happy.

Drink driving

The police will breathalyse you if you’re in an accident, and if you’re found with alcohol in your system you’re in big trouble. Most people don’t risk it as taxis are everywhere and very safe and cheap.

Summer camps

Most schools and nurseries offer summer activity camps to help working parents, but the hours are shorter than normal school hours and it’s hard if you’re a working mum. The entire system revolves around the assumption that you have a team of drivers and maids/nannies at home, which of course most westerners don’t. If you work and you want your kids to stay sane over the summer, you usually have to send them back to England to stay with grandparents (as unaccompanied minors on the plane).

What's childcare like where you are?

Most people have maids/nannies, although they are usually not well trained and when I see them out and about they usually aren’t doing a great job.....

Locals sometimes pretty much leave all their childcare to a team of nannies and don’t do much for their kids. It’s quite sad to see. I think it’s part laziness/entitlement and part pressure to reproduce and have huge (6 kids plus) families at a young age. I actually despair for the psychological damage which is being done to the next generation by this nanny culture.

Nurseries take babies from 6 weeks, because that is all the maternity leave that most companies offer. They are very mixed in terms of their offerings, although there are good ones. Childminding is illegal, but i understand that some cultures eg Indians and Filipinos do it under the radar among themselves (sometimes with tragic consequences).

Breakfast

I don’t know what the locals do at home, but the traditional dishes are shakshouka, which is like huevos rancheros, and fouls madames, which is like baked beans.

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 30/06/2019 07:34

Drunk driving is not acceptable where I live in the states or any other state I believe for that matter. Zero tolerance for drinking. The legal age is 21 to drink here. Federal aid helps low income students for college to a certain degree. We do have Sunday dinners. The people I know who go on vacation/holiday usually go to a different state inside America. I think our apartments are similar to your flats? Some camps are expensive, some aren't to bad if usually through local churches and such.

chemenger · 30/06/2019 13:18

Interesting to see the comments about drunk driving in the US. One of the things most expats I have met in Boston comment on it the casual attitude to drinking and drinking we’ve seen here compared to back in the UK. It is not at all unusual for Americans to drive home from dinner parties etc, when we wouldn’t consider it. I was at a Christmas lunch event when the man next to me had to go out half way through to feed his parking meter. The fact that he could barely stand didn’t seem to strike anyone else as odd. The standard of driving on the highway at night would suggest that some people have been drinking, even more erratic lane changing than usual, driving very slowly etc. It’s also far from unusual for there to be a strong smell of weed from cars driving round with open windows in the city, it’s legal to smoke it here but not in public and not while driving, obviously.

Going back to apartments, we live in a 36 floor tower block of apartments, all owned and managed by a company that has apartment blocks all over the US. We have secure entry with concierges who accept packages for us including dry cleaning, food deliveries etc. Our mail comes to mailboxes on the ground floor. Rubbish goes down a chute on each floor to the basement. The building has 12 apartments on each floor, ranging from studios to three beds. We have a gym, works spaces with cubicles and free (terrible) coffee and a deck on the roof with grills (gas barbecues), sun beds and outside sofas etc as well as an amazing view. There’s also an inside communal lounge with a kitchen and large tables where you can eat with guests if your apartment is too small, big TVs and seating. There are cleaners who maintain the communal areas, including the corridors and a team of maintenance people who will do everything from changing lightbulbs to replacing faulty appliances. We have washing machines and dryers in the apartment but also a few larger communal ones. Living here is very easy but not cheap! Most people here are young professionals or students but there are quite a few empty nesters like us and quite a few expats. Some small children but I would say no school age children. Families tend to move out of the city centre for more space.

There is an enormous number of dogs, one in 4 elevator rides involves meeting a dog (which I love). Anything from a tiny yorkie to a bernadoodle (st Bernard-poodle cross). The building has a “dog spa” where people can wash and blow dry their dogs. The concierges have dog treats on their desk and supply poop bags. One of the similar blocks near us has its own dog park with an agility course. There is a monthly fee to have a dog or cat, something like $70 per month.

chemenger · 30/06/2019 13:19

“Drinking and drinking”? I meant drinking and driving obviously.

IHaveBrilloHair · 30/06/2019 13:34

I found the same in Australia with the drink driving.

CitadelsofScience · 30/06/2019 14:14

Please keep posting people. I'm reading and loving every comment and I'm learning so much.

chemenger · 30/06/2019 14:22

The view from my apartment.

Questions for American and other international/non uk mners
dreichuplands · 30/06/2019 14:40

I've been reflecting on the drink driving and I think if I asked my US friends they would say that there are strict laws about drink driving in our state.
They don't realize how loosely enforced they are or how flexible average drivers regard them as.
Other things are much less flexible you can't start school either state or private without a Doctors certificate to say that you have had all your inoculations including chicken pox. You can get a medical exemption certificate if needed.

Outsomnia · 30/06/2019 14:49

Just wondered, home schooling appears to be quite popular in the US. I have often wondered if that is because parents are worried about the safety of their children or is a religious thing. I don't know.

Anyway is there a certification system for home schooled children, i.e. what do they need to be accepted into College if they have been home schooled.

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