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Why can’t kids take nuts??

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Kungfupanda67 · 19/06/2019 09:53

Genuine question, just had a booking form for a school trip and had the usual reminder to not put anything containing nuts in lunch boxes because some children are allergic to them. I was just wondering why this is such a blanket rule when some children are also allergic to eggs, cheese, wheat etc? Anyone know?

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Passthecherrycoke · 19/06/2019 09:53

Because nut allergy can be so serious, and airborne

BinkyandBunty · 19/06/2019 09:54

Because there are children going on the trip who are allergic to nuts, not eggs.

Teddybear45 · 19/06/2019 09:55

They probably don’t yet have any kids with a deathly allergy to dairy and eggs. DN school does and she isn’t allowed to bring nuts, eggs, or dairy products.

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Mrsjayy · 19/06/2019 09:57

Nut allergy can be deadly because it is airborne cheese allergy usually happens when it is ingested

bruffin · 19/06/2019 09:58

Because nut allergy can be so serious, and airborne
Many other allergies are as dangerous as nuts ie seeds,fish etc and nut dust is too heavy to be airbourne.
Ds is allergic to treenuts and seeds

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2019 09:58

And it is airbourne*

SherlockHolmesPipe · 19/06/2019 10:00

Are these nut allergies a recent thing? Are we molly coddling our kids so they develop allergies to basic foods that humans have eaten for thousands of years?

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2019 10:01

Well i stand corrected Bruffin i have always assumed it was airbourne

Passthecherrycoke · 19/06/2019 10:01

How could molly cuddling them make them allergic to something? Hmm

luckygreeneyes · 19/06/2019 10:02

As others said because it’s likely that children on the trip/at school have anaphylactic reactions to nuts but not the others

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2019 10:02

No nut allergy has been about decades it is hardly caused by "mollycodling"

SpreadsheetQueen · 19/06/2019 10:03

I've never really understood this, as something like peanut butter has as much chance of becoming airborne as eggs/ dairy. Due to the fact so many schools have a blanket ban on nuts (but rarely other allergens) a lot of people seem to believe nut allergies are the only ones which cause anaphylaxis, when in fact it's quite possible to have mild nut allergy or anaphalactic response to other allergens.

Passthecherrycoke · 19/06/2019 10:03

I would assume bruffin (rightly or wrongly) that a nut ban included tree nuts

CadburysTastesVileNow · 19/06/2019 10:04

Don';t know about airborne, but my DS has had a reaction from touching a keyboard someone had been using while eating peanuts. So definitely 'transferable'.

SherlockHolmesPipe · 19/06/2019 10:04

The UK has some of the highest prevalence rates of allergic conditions in the world, with over 20% of the population affected by one or more allergic disorder. (M. L. Levy, 2004)

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2019 10:05

I have an allergy that causes anaphalaxic reaction (not nuts) i can see why schools have blanket bans on them i know it seems an overreation but people die from these allergies.

SherlockHolmesPipe · 19/06/2019 10:06

Well clearly we are doing something that is causing a rapid increase.
In the 20 years to 2012 there was a 615% increase in the rate of hospital admissions for anaphylaxis in the UK (Turner, Paul J., et al, 2015)

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2019 10:07

cadbury I probably meant transferable when i said airbourne.

Passthecherrycoke · 19/06/2019 10:08

Plenty of theories easily googleable Sherlock

Bodicea · 19/06/2019 10:09

My son is allergic to treenuts and peanuts (not airborne). Believe me he isn’t mollycoddled.

Allergies are on the rise though, and late weaning is now being shown to be a big cause in atopic children. Son had severe eczema and was weaned late as advised by health visitors at the time. This means they take in allergens via the damaged skin barrier before they get a chance to take in via their gut.

Further down the line His specialist ( nhs consultant allergist) advised me that his siblings were weaned at 4 months and no food to be delayed. Neither has allergies.
I am just a little bit bitter especially when I still speak to health visitors etc who aren’t up to date on the latest read each and still advise weaning at 6 months and dealing things such as nuts till a year in children with eczema.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 19/06/2019 10:09

@Teddybear45 is that a primary or secondary school? I'm just wondering how they go on with the school meals? I can't imagine how hard that would be to maintain in a high school.

Bodicea · 19/06/2019 10:11

*delaying

Nanny0gg · 19/06/2019 10:14

If there is a child in the school with an egg allergy then eggs are banned (or they were in my school)

But as nut allergy seems to be more prevalent there always seems to be at least one sufferer so the ban is permanent.

PazRaz10 · 19/06/2019 10:15

It is likely that the school have a child who is allergy to nut trace, and is at risk of nuts being in their vicinity. I work with a woman who can walk into the office and know if nuts have been in the room - her throat and tongue starts to swell. We are a nut free office.
Both of my children have a nut allergy. DS to tree nuts but not peanuts and DD severly allergic to peanuts but not allergic to tree nuts.
Whilst my DD is not allergic to trace peanuts she is still an epipen carrier as internal exposure to nuts could be life threatening to her. All it could take on a school trip is a child to have peanut butter, and then share a drink with my daughter without thinking (she is 5, it happens) and this could be lethal.

Teddybear45 · 19/06/2019 10:15

@SherlockHolmesPipe - that is an old study. Newer ones have suggested that even though these countries don’t accurately report or understand allergies (especially food allergies) China and India (India especially) are the countries where allergies are most prevalent. It certainly helps to explain why the child mortality rates in India are so high even in parts of the population that aren’t living in poverty.

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