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Genuine reasons for wanting Boris Johnson as prime minister?

96 replies

Mummoomoocow · 10/06/2019 11:19

I draw a blank at the question, I cannot understand why the media have him as the favourite.

Can someone enlighten me? Genuinely?

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noodlenosefraggle · 10/06/2019 17:59

To be honest, he's such a bagger liar I'm banking on him having said whatever it takes to get into power, then backtracking on everything. He'll blag his way out of a no deal Brexit, I bet and just get the WA passed, pretending he's got concessions he hasn't. He was always a remainer until he thought he could get a shot at PM by being a leaver.

LucilleBluth · 10/06/2019 17:59

Cult of personality. That is all it is about with Boris.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 10/06/2019 18:05

I think a lot of stories want him as leader - not because of anything Brexit-related- but simply because they believe he has the best of leading them to a majority victory in the next general election.

Problem with that is that imho most of those same Tories massively overestimate his appeal to non-Tories. They are mistaking familiarity with popularity.

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Cinammoncake · 10/06/2019 18:06

My guess is that the Tories think - people voted Farage = obviously they like utter bellends... who best fits the bill.

Andcake · 10/06/2019 18:07

I don’t want him as pm but feel the country and him have been expecting it since the referendum. Even him pitting himself so directly against Cameron. I never understood what happened at the last leadership fight what made him not stand. Always thought there was more than the gove thing. remain London must be kicking themselves over him being mayor 🤔

Xiaoxiong · 10/06/2019 18:20

I knew people who voted for him to be mayor of London because he was funny and they thought he'd be able to pull things off that a "normal" politician couldn't because he was willing to do crazy things. It's a similar mentality to those who voted for Trump because they thought he was totally honestly authentic - "look how crazy he is, that shows that he is so different from regular politicians, he has nothing to lose so he will just do what needs doing without worrying about focus groups and messaging and maintaining his own image".

In that kind of mirror world, the crazier you are and the more stunts you pull, it just makes those kinds of voters think you're even more authentic and "real".

powershowerforanhour · 10/06/2019 19:05

I never understood what happened at the last leadership fight what made him not stand.

The job was more of a glass cliff then than it is now. PM then was expected to sweep into Brussels with all of Europe grovelling at their feet, and arrive home with all the concessions in the bag and the bus money to spend on the NHS.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/06/2019 19:07

It makes my cry just thinking about him as PM. As bad as Trump IMHO.

MerryMarigold · 10/06/2019 19:12

Because he's better than Raab? It's all I can think of.

woodcutbirds · 10/06/2019 19:14

The only one I can possibly think of is: he isn't Gove?

woodcutbirds · 10/06/2019 19:16

I'm not sure he is better than Raab, Marigold
Both nasty, selfish, self-serving careerists but Boris's egotism outshines Raab's by a long way.

TSSDNCOP · 10/06/2019 19:18

I am a Conservative voter. Yes, yes can you see my cloven hooves Grin if the Party votes Boris in I will not be able to vote for them anytime in the foreseeable future. Even in a world of fake news, shady morals and unstatesmanlike behaviour Boris is in a league of his own.

Iris1654 · 10/06/2019 19:21

HEs a fucking bafoon.

So out of touch with the real world.

MerryMarigold · 10/06/2019 19:22

Is Gove worse than Boris? I thought he seems liberal in comparison?

Burpsandrustles · 10/06/2019 19:32

I would have said don't know op but having seen darkest hour recently I have changed my mind.

People didn't like church hill, never Been on tube... life of utter splendour....bad descisons...

But we needed him and his charisma and speeches and vision to get us through the war.

I think maybe Boris is needed to now

FantailsFly · 10/06/2019 19:33

I don't think he wants to make it to the last two - his people will find a way of pulling out. He knows Brexit is a shitshow and would rather be in power once someone else has done whatever the fuck dirty work needs doing. I think he is a self-interested buffoon - he might throw a smattering of Latin/the classics into speeches but so what?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/06/2019 19:35

He's definitely neither dim nor stupid. The buffoonery is a front.
You don't get an Oxford first in classics if you're stupid.

IMO he's clever, cunning and shrewd - and will make a disastrous PM.
Whether he'd be more or less disastrous than Corbyn I don't know.

Our best hope after a coming GE IMO will be a coalition with a very hefty LD component.

Burpsandrustles · 10/06/2019 19:38

People said Churchill self interested as well and in that film , MPs talk about him flip flopping...

I know Churchill comes in for much cristism now however I don't doubt for one second we needed him in the war!

woodcutbirds · 10/06/2019 19:46

But Burps Boris doesn't have Churchillian charisma or statesmanlike ability to make speeches and lead a country. He has played the buffoon so long in order to lure the public into a false sense of security that he's a lovable labrador, that he's grown too comfortable in that role. he doesn't know how how to behave with grace or dignity because they are very low priorities for him. His only priority seems to be: Boris gets what Boris wants.

Burpsandrustles · 10/06/2019 19:49

People thought same of Churchill though, and what he wants he gets.

Thought he was awful flip flopping drunk.

lljkk · 10/06/2019 19:53

BJ was funny on TV. Maybe he'll be worth a laugh (can't take him seriously, obs)

He's better than Raab & McVey. Woo.hoo.

McVey reckons that a load of MPs running scared of Brexit Party will stop opposing crashing out. So then the EU will wee themselves & capitulate. Presumably BJ is helping for that unicorn, too. Otherwise they both seem incapable of counting.

ElspethFlashman · 10/06/2019 19:53

And he's popular abroad

Where???

I'm "abroad" and he's viewed as pure dangerous.

Cinammoncake · 10/06/2019 19:56

Since we're not in a war Confused I find the Churchill comparisons quite crass. Not that I think Bojo is comparable anyway. A Poundland Trump, which I've heard him called, seems more accurate.

BertrandRussell · 10/06/2019 19:56

I blame HIGNIFY.

TemporaryPermanent · 10/06/2019 20:00

Because we deserve it?

Perhaps we really do hate ourselves that much.