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Who should do the washing up?

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IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 08:34

Not sure if I’m BU in thinking the dishes should be down to DH to do a few nights during the week, so thought I’d get some other perspectives/see what goes on in other people’s homes.

I’m a SAHM to two young DC’s (both under 3), and naturally given that I’m the one at home everyday, I take on the lions share of the housework. This, I don’t actually mind too much as I am house proud and am one of those people who feel at their most relaxed and calm when things are in ‘order’ and everywhere looks tidy.

I do all of the cooking Monday-Friday, ensuring DH’s dinner is ready for when he gets in around 5:30pm, and it’s not uncommon for me to be the one doing it at the weekend too.
I hoover daily - sometimes twice given the age of DC’s and how messy they can be. I do probably 90% of the households laundry, DH sometimes does a few loads at the weekend if it’s particularly sunny as he has a thing about his clothes smelling ‘line fresh’ so likes to get a fair bit done and hung outside as and when he can.

I wash up every (well most) morning once youngest DC is napping, I make the beds, I keep on top of putting toys away throughout the day so the place doesn’t descend in to absolute chaos by the evening. I clean the bathroom at least twice a week, though often more than that as the DC’s get toothpaste everywhere, and DH leaves beard hairs around the sink too.

I also do the ‘bigger’ jobs such as cleaning the inside of all the windows, properly cleaning/washing the bathroom and kitchen floors, stain removing the rugs/sofas with a cleaning spray and scrubbing brush, dusting everywhere etc at least one per month as our place is small, so any dust/mess tends to show up pretty easily, especially with DC's the age that they are.

Now for what DH does during the week. He works Monday to Friday, leaving around 6:30 and getting home by 5:30. Once the DC’s have finished their dinner, he will clean them up, sometimes we’ll both wrangle them in to their pj’s, sometimes he’ll do the pair of them on his own. He’ll take them through and brush their teeth, sit with them for the 20 minutes ‘quiet’ time before bed, then take them through to their room. If the DC’s wake in the night, which is about a 50:50 chance that they will, he will get up and take them juice, but they settle pretty easily so if/when we do get up in the night, we’re back in bed within 5 minutes anyway.
While I am appreciative that he more or less ‘takes over’ with the DC’s once he’s in from work, I feel like I can’t pat him on the back or praise him for it because ultimately, the - less than an - hour he spends with them, pales in comparison to the often 11-12 hour day I would’ve just had with them, so I think it’s only fair he does his share of child duties and that that final hour shouldn’t be left to me.

Once the DC’s are in bed, it’s usually down to me to tidy away any remaining toys/books that have been left scattered around the lounge. I’d say I have about a 10% chance of him doing it without me asking him to, and even when he does, not everything gets put away anyway.
He does not wash up at all during the week once the DC’s are taken care of, if I’m lucky he might do it once at the weekend, but it’s during the week that’s starting to grind my gears. He’ll sit playing on his phone, playing the PS4, catching up on shows until we go to bed, obviously completely aware that if he doesn’t wash up before we retire for the evening, all the dishes from dinner and the DC’s lunch will be left for me to do in the morning.

I’m starting to get this growing bubble of resentment inside me about the washing up. It’s pissing me off that I cook every day, and it’s still my ‘job’ to clean up afterwards. I’ve spoken with him about this before, and said that I think it’s only fair that he should wash up occasionally during the week seeing as our home only looks as clean and tidy as it does, because of me, so him spending 10 minutes of an evening washing a few plates, the DC’s dinner trays etc would lighten my load for the following morning and is really the bare minimum expected of a functioning, respectful adult. That went well for about 3 weeks, before it tapered off and he stopped doing them again.

This isn’t one of those things where I can just leave it, and hope he’ll magically realise that the dishes haven’t been done so he’ll start taking it upon himself to do it, because if I don’t do the dishes when I get up, then the DC’s have nothing to eat off of, cutlery starts to run low, we’ll run out of coffee cups (thanks to the DC having broken most of our collection), so it’s either I do it, or we have nothing to eat or drink from that day.
So I just don’t know what else I can do or say to make him realise that cleaning up isn’t my ‘job’. It should be a shared responsibility.

I’m also ashamed to add that I do pick up his dirty clothes from the bedroom floor, clean the bath after he’s used it, sort out of his underwear and sock drawers etc. I start to feel like he’s a third child, but then a little person on my shoulder pops up and goes ‘but he does get the DC’s ready for bed, will get up with them in the night if needs be, does some laundry at the weekends, will take the DC’s out for an hour if I need a break’ and then I start to feel bad for thinking he should do some bloody washing up and wonder if I’m being petty and should actually be doing it all myself!?

Sorry that was far longer than I’d planned, but I guess the more I explain of my situation, the better catered the advice might be!

Thanks if you’ve read this far, and a further thanks for any tips you may have.

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Damntheman · 06/06/2019 08:37

The person who did not cook is the one who should do the washing up. And the washing up should be done that evening or it'll get crusty and hard to get clean! Simple.

If he doesn't want to do the washing up then he can start making the dinner isntead.

Magmatic80 · 06/06/2019 08:40

Yep, the one who didn’t cook does it. DP generally does it the following morning whilst pottering about before work.

bitchfromhell · 06/06/2019 08:43

Get a dishwasher. You can get freestanding ones to go in a corner if necessary. Life's too short to get het up about this kind of shit.

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IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 08:47

We have no space in our kitchen for a dishwasher..
I guess it's more the principle of things and the fact I'm left feeling like almost every household chore is entirely my responsibility and that he should be let off from doing any of it simply because he works. I'm perfectly okay with doing the majority, and do feel that's the way it should be seeing as I'm the one at home, but my time at home is no walk in the park with 2 DC's under three, so him washing up of an evening and packing away some toys without me needing to ask would be nice.

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fedup21 · 06/06/2019 08:50

I would have the discussion again and say everything you’ve just said.

I have done both cooking and washing up in the past but it just leads to resentment. When you’ve eaten, can you say you’ll take the kids up and start running the bath whilst he washes up-what would he do then?

Lubyloo · 06/06/2019 08:56

I'm a SAHM. I do all the housework, laundry, ironing, cooking, washing up, lawn mowing and gardening. We eat dinner and dh puts DS to bed whilst I clear up the dinner things. We are both generally ready to sit down and relax at the same time. I see it that DH has worked all day and we both stop at the same time which feels perfectly fair to me.

IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 09:01

He actually enjoys doing the bedtime routine with DC's, as it's the only hour he gets with them Monday to Friday so he looks forward to being with them which is lovely and I wouldn't want to take that away from him.
I completely get that after a day at work, no one wants to stand around doing washing up, but it would take him no more than 10-15 minutes to do. I don't particularly enjoy or want to bleach the bathroom or scrub pee accidents out of our carpets, but I do it because it has to be done.

When we both worked, pre kids, we split laundry 50/50, if I cooked, he cleaned and vice versa. We'd both help each other change the beds, but now that I'm a SAHM, it's like literally everything is left up to me and I have this constant internal battle where one half of me thinks it should be all up to me, and the other (more rational) half reminds me that this is his home too, it's his mess as well, it's not just up to me to take care of it all whilst juggling raising our children.

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Cedar03 · 06/06/2019 09:04

When our DD was small we would take it in turns to do bedtime and the one who wasn't doing that would wash up and tidy up any toys that were left (although we generally tried to get her to tidy up first). That way we would both get to sit down and relax at the same time.

Washing up is a chore but so is the bath and bed routine. Why not just swap around a bit more often.

I have to say, though, I never wash anything that isn't in the washing basket and I would never pick up after my DH - even in the days when I was at home all day.

NorthernSpirit · 06/06/2019 09:08

If you cook, he does the washing up.

And stop picking up his dirty clothes off the bedroom floor and sorting his sock draw out. Your his partner not his mother and he isn’t a teenage boy. Actually even a teenage child should be doing these things for themselves!

Did his mother run around after him? This resentment will build. Stop now.

BuckingFrolics · 06/06/2019 09:14

My DM feels relaxed when everything is done, so her house is damn clean and tidy. I visit, have tea, leave my mug in the sink. Because to me, who lives comfortably in mess, her place is so clean that one mug won't hurt/doesn't represent a mess. To me, mess or domestic chores only become visible at a point which DM would call chaos and filth.

Does that make sense? I have to tell myself to wash my mug, (and hers) dry and put away, so that she can feel relaxed.

So I'm wondering (as your DH sounds fine) whether he sees a pretty spotless house and things the washing up is "only a small mess" that doesn't matter as the whole house is clean. He's not blind to it, but it doesn't represent mess worth doing yet. In which case he needs telling that it is mess to you.

Only you will know if that's the case for him.

Manclife1 · 06/06/2019 09:21

Here’s the question. Is he sat on his arse doing nothing while you wash the pots? If so you’re not being unreasonable. If however if he’s actively dealing with the kids then yes YABU. Is you’ve said, dealing with the kids for 13 hours is hard work for you, so why is it not for him.

Also, if he leaves at 0630 I’m guessing he’s up at 0600 if not early. I’m also guessing that you’re only up at that time when the kids are up. Does he mind if you keep
getting longer in bed than him? While he’s providing for the family?

IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 09:22

Interesting point you've made there Bucking, DH is the messy type, however, he was better before we had kids..
Nowadays, He can get up at the weekend, leave the bedroom curtains drawn all day, not make the bed, leave his pj's and last nights underwear strewn across the floor and it doesn't cross his mind to go in there and sort it out, so of course... I do it.
With the bathroom, I refuse to believe he doesn't see the blobs of toothpaste splattered all around the sink and on the floor, or the beard hairs dotted around, or the dirty mirror, but it doesn't cross his mind to quickly run a wipe around the basin after he's used it because I guess to him, it doesn't look immensely filthy so he just leaves it. And then all of these small tasks that would initially have taken him a matter of minutes to sort out, end up building up and they take me ages to go around doing the following day.

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BonAccordSpur · 06/06/2019 09:24

Couldnt be bothered to read-the title made me laugh tho-you sound like a fussy nightmare...relaz urself a bit. Either he buy a dishwasher,theyre like£2-300 or hire a cleaner..if you cant afford it (im sure you're the type who'd get more of a kick out of)rotas&highlighter pens&dictating lol..it sounds like a nightmare u totting it all up&keeping score..

Quartz2208 · 06/06/2019 09:28

He should

IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 09:28

We're up at exactly the same time every morning, in fact, I'm sometimes up earlier than him as every so often our youngest dc will throw in a 5am wake up! He gets out of bed at the last possible second, throws his clothes on and leaves.

With the bedtime routine, while he's brushing the DC's teeth etc, I'm busy picking up the dropped food in the lounge, taking theirs and ours plates out, putting cushions back on the sofa, getting DC's milk ready, arranging the blankets on the floor that youngest dc likes to lie on before bed. We both do the bedtime routine, I'm not sat around with my feet up while he does everything. When he takes youngest dc to bed, I'm sat with elder dc (who's 2), giving him a cuddle, watching the last of in the night garden with him, then DH walks him through to his bedroom.

Bon, massively judgey comment there. I've already stated we have no room for a dishwasher and can't afford a cleaner. I wouldn't get a kick out of doing rotas, what's more, DH is a 35 year old man, he shouldn't need a rota to know it isn't down to his wife to clean up all of their DC's and his mess every single day.

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Manclife1 · 06/06/2019 09:38

Right, so whilst your washing up he’s doing something (child care). In which case you are being very unreasonable. He can’t do 2 jobs at once. And stop making out like your list of jobs is huge by listing everything in tiny detail. Putting cushions on the sofa and putting a blanket on the floor is hardly a bloody chore!

IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 09:41

I'm not saying that what I do whilst he's brushing our DC's teeth is a chore, I'm saying that by the time we've got them in to their pj's, and he's taken them in to the bathroom the wash their faces and clean the teeth, I'm doing bits and pieces that whole time. Literally the second I've finished getting milk, picking up food, arranging the lounge etc, he's bringing the DC's back in to the lounge and we all settle down together.

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Manclife1 · 06/06/2019 09:43

So like I asked originally. Are you saying he’s doing nothing to contribute to the family while you are washing the pots everynight?

IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 09:43

I also don't really see how him putting pj's on a toddler, brushing some teeth then sitting on a sofa cuddling dc for 15-20 minutes before they go to bed means he doesn't have to wash up his plate...?
By that logic, I spend 11-12 hours doing childcare every day, does that mean I shouldn't have to do laundry, any washing up, no hoovering etc because I'm looking after our DC's?

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IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 09:46

I will do the washing up once the DC's are in bed and settled, after I've tidied the lounge properly and packed all the toys away, he will either turn the PlayStation on, or put one of his shows on.

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AnchorDownDeepBreath · 06/06/2019 09:46

We don't do the "whoever cooks doesn't wash up" thing, because it doesn't quite sit right with me. I feel like it risks a stubborn stand off if it's someone else's turn but you need something in the washing pile...

We tend to cook together in the evenings. One of us might be 'leading' it more because the other one is tidying or showering or something, but generally we're together. In the week, most of the time I do the washing up in the morning because I start work half an hour later and I can do it while I'm making ginger tea. At the weekend, we just do it when it needs to be done.

He does do other things more than me - I hate making the bed, he tends to do that, he hoovers more than me, he cleans the toilet more. I tidy a bit more. It probably evens out and we're happy.

Knittedfairies · 06/06/2019 09:51

I'm not quite sure how we've fallen into this, but if I cook my husband washes up. If he cooks, he washes up...

CassianAndor · 06/06/2019 09:54

he should wash up if you've cooked.

it sounds like you;re doing far too much, by which I mean hoovering every day? Really? If you do that I'll bet you're doing a lot of other unnecessary stuff. But once he's home the 'home' is 50/50.

IAmTheVeryHungryCaterpillar · 06/06/2019 10:01

Hoovering needs to be done every day. The kitchen is small and even preparing one meal out there makes the floor looks messy - not helped by the way DH will brush his food crumbs from the counters on to the floor after he's made his lunch in the mornings. The lounge floor becomes chaos by midday after the DC's have had breakfast, snacks and lunch, if I didn't hoover every day, youngest dc would go around grazing the floor for old crumbs which is just gross. Maybe you don't have a two and a half year old and a one year old, but I can assure you that they need hoovering up after pretty damn often.

The only 'unnecessary' thing I do, is that I tidy/keep on top of putting DC's toys away throughout the day. By 10am, you can't even see our lounge floor through the mass of books, stuffed toys, wooden blocks, massive dump trucks etc, so I make a point of trying to pack things away everywhere few hours otherwise you can't walk across the room without risking your life - not quite, but you get what I mean. Other than that, I just do everything that's required to not make a home look like a shit tip.

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onetwofive · 06/06/2019 10:05

As a pp said the crucial point is if he's sitting on his area while you're cleaning up that's not fair. IMO You've both had hard days (I've got 2 small DCs and house is a tip however much I try!) so you should both pitch in equally when they're asleep, barring exceptional circumstances like horrifically bad day for one of you.

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