Martin Freeman mansplaining on that Vodafone ad.

[ILoveMaxiBondi]

Does it make anyone else want to punch the TV? I know it’s deliberate that he’s being a cockhead mansplainer but it really gets my goat. He does it so well

There may be some women who engage in similar behaviour but they aren't mansplaining.

No, they are womansplaining on account of them not having a penis.

If they are engaging in similar behaviour they are doing exactly the same thing and it is ridiculous to try to claim otherwise.

The sexism resides in the man treating women like idiots on the basis of their being female.

You have no idea whether they are doing it based on the other person's sex. The sort of person who does it most likely does it to everyone on account of them being an arrogant twat.

Actually, it's interesting how it's ok to basically say "it's because they are a man" but not "it's because they are a woman".

Nobody said “it’s because they’re a man”, they don’t it because they’re a man. (Loads of men don’t do it) they do it because their “victim” is a woman.

red I saw a piece of advice on MN a while back for dealing with this. You say “can I just stop you there Jim” and then walk off.

You have no idea whether they are doing it based on the other person's sex. The sort of person who does it most likely does it to everyone on account of them being an arrogant twat.

Thing is thirty years ago, there wasn't a word. But I was young, blonde, female and also very intelligent and well-read. I toyed with the idea of having two t-shirts printed. One that said "my eyes are up there" and an arrow. The other would have my certified IQ. Because men, and it was always men, would talk to my breasts about how I didn't know anything.

I'm fairly sure my breasts didn't know anything, but I bloody did.

My least favourite MF ad is the one where he's on the train, sits next to someone and says 'I haven't watched that one yet', as they're watching a film on their phone.

He then glares because they presumably don't immediately switch it off.

The solution, you hobbity twat, would be to not look over their shoulder at their phone.

"Abusive"?! Good grief

It's a term that perfectly explains the experience of many many women.

I had a man explain to me how I had misunderstood a passage in a book. That I bloody wrote. That was fun

There's so many for women; bitchy, nagging, Wendy, hysterical... off the top of my head.

There's so many for women; bitchy, nagging, Wendy, hysterical... off the top of my head.

And posters get pulled up when they use them on here.

Or are you saying that it's ok to use those terms, because they describe behaviours predominantly committed by women?

MrsTerryPratchett

Thing is thirty years ago, there wasn't a word.

Patronising?
Condescending?
Talk down to?

How about the one where Freeman forgets a gift for his aunt and its up to his partner to hurriedly order some bullshit online thing while he ice skates?

Very envious of those denying the existence of mansplaining as they've obviously never encountered it!

*My least favourite MF ad is the one where he's on the train, sits next to someone and says 'I haven't watched that one yet', as they're watching a film on their phone.

He then glares because they presumably don't immediately switch it off.

The solution, you hobbity twat, would be to not look over their shoulder at their phone.*
You have missed out the fact that they are all watching the film without headphones, he's glaring because of the noise. Not the fact they are watching a film.
He goes from seat to seat trying to find quiet

Did the Bat Signal go off @DecomposingComposers?

Boney "Patronising?
Condescending?
Talk down to?"

None of those reference the intrinsic part that the man is unnecessarily explaining something to a woman, because she's a woman, aka 'less competent than him'.

@MrsTerryPratchett

No not at all. It just interests me how we can criticise using misogynistic words whilst at the same time extolling the virtue of using a term like mansplaining.

I'm just interested in the thought processes.

Surely if you want sexist language to stop you want it to stop?

You can't be sexist against men in a patriarchal society. Men can be - and are - harmed by the patriarchy but calling men out for mansplaining is not propping up the patriarchy.

Odd because I've never seen you telling men off, just women. Maybe you're over on the many many (sometimes violently) misogynistic websites, where women are subject to horrific online abuse telling them off.

Pew research found that young women were disproportionately experiencing severe harassment online including sexual threats and stalking. But yeah, calling men mansplainers is exactly the same in every way. Men and women's experiences are entirely equal.

However I decided to stop engaging with you because I find it tiresome.

Saw this earlier and thought it perfect for this thread!

picklemepopcorn

The dictionary says

"the explanation of something by a man, typically to a woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing."

nothing about 'less competent than him'

But then I suppose a made up word should have a false made up meaning

MrsTerryPratchett
How do I know who is a man or who is a woman on here? I call out what I think is shitty behaviour.

Do I go on other websites? No, I have no idea what other sites even exist. I come here for the variety of topics and have no interest in going on lots of other sites.

If I see misogynistic behaviour on here I would call that out too - as in the thread about acrylic nails and calling women shallow, plastic clones etc for having them.

peachgreen

I don't really agree. Sex is a protected characteristic under the EA, not just being a woman, so clearly you can have sexism against men.

I do a particular sport where on one occasion my coach did not show up on time. The only man in the group (of only 3 months more experience than myself) took it upon himself to coach the lesson. I tried to master a tricky manoeuvre and he came over to give me his expertise, telling me to do something that directly contradicted what I had been taught by the coach the previous week. Another man (husband of a team mate, watching from sidelines) then proceeded to join him in telling me that I was doing it all wrong! This 2nd man was just a spectator and had never even attempted this sport before! My coach then arrived and said I was doing it right and they were wrong. I could not believe the arrogance of these men with so little experience to just take it upon themselves to lead a group of women, uninvited, some more experienced than themselves!

Boney
Condescending:: treatingg someone as if you are more importantt* or more intelligentt* than them
patronise to speakk* to or behavee* towards someone as if they are stupidd* or not importantt*
*
Or less competent, perhaps?*

picklemepopcorn

You are not only agreeing with me
and making my point for me and
You are repeating my points back to me.

You are actually mansplaining?