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My 'Stepdaughter'* I'm half heartbroken, half trying to forget her (long!)

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CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 20:42

  • is only there because this is an unconventional situation and I am preparing for people to say 'she isn't your stepdaughter' because of that. I absolutely see her as a daughter however. We used to be very close. . She began calling me her stepmum, her choice on our first meeting and that's how she saw me.

Okay I began a relationship with (my now) ex about 5 years ago. We parted ways in September 18. Not long after we met I learned she had a daughter (I'll call her Sally, not her name!) whom she had not seen since daughter was about 5.

Sally turned up at ex's place of work when I was there and I took her home(full care order) to her children's home. She was a lovely, bright and friendly outgoing girl. Very intelligent and mature. Understood the situation, was working in a shop, beautifully turned out,and seemed okay.

I told her to call me if she needed anything.

In time, she spoke to her carers as did I and it was agreed that despite my relationship with Sally's Mum, Sally had no influential adults in her life and very little contact with family, so contact with me was beneficial to her. She's alreayd rang me every day, knowing she wasn't permitted contact with her Mum I knew I was 'the next best thing'. I was soon permitted to visit her each week.. From being 9 to 14, she had been in a foster home and she became very close to this family, referring to her foster mum and dad as her parents and their (very young) children as her siblings.. I have since got to know them both and I think they're wonderful people.

They're also now, as heartbroken as me.

They were forced to give Sally up as she became rebellious and dangerous and they were at risk of losing their own children. She was always been brought home by the police at all hours, her 'dad' had found her going into hotels with much older men, drugs, really bad stuff.

She went to the children's home and not long after is when I met her.

In time, she told me she wanted nothing more but to have a relationship with her mum and me and her both spoke to carers about it. it was finally permitted to have supervised contact with her and her mum, first session went well. Second session was due and provided this went well, Sally was permitted to see her Mum independently. Not long following this me and my ex moved into a three bedroomed property and it was well known that Sally would come and live with us as soon as she could. She used to speak about how excited she was.

Only, not long before this, she went 'off the rails'. She met an older guy. She became very angry and aggressive. She eventually did move in, making out it was under duress, mind- and she has since been so awful. I've done so much to help her I won't even go into it here but above and beyond, but she's been much beyond 'normal' teenage behavior. for example she took a thug she knows to her friends house and demanded he give her her belongings she'd stored there or he'd be beaten. This guy has been nothing but good to her.

She stayed with us and lived with us for a few weeks and brought all sorts of dodgy people to us. She has punched herself in the face and said she was telling the police it was me and/or my ex.

She ran away from our house and when found, had knives, every bit of medication we had in the bathroom, and duct tape.

She's threatened to ring my work and tell them I was abusing her. I since found that she told SS that her foster dad was sexually abusing her too. She's behaved awfully-this isn't the half of it.

Also, not long before she was due to come and live with us, her children's home told me she wasnt ever staying there and being the age she was, they were seen as 'bed hogging' and may have to discharge her. I went to pick her up to visit us one day, and she said could I give her a lift into town as 'homeless people get bullied on the bus', I said 'Sally we're in your house? You're not homeless? you have two homes if anything?!' Lately she's been telling a lot of people how horrid it is being on the streets and being homeless etc-she's never been homeless other than through her own choice. It breaks my heart.
I realise a product of the care system, maybe MH issues? Her father had psychosis and was violent-genetics?

Recently she came to my house-I had not long since finished night shift and I was in bed. This was about 9 am. I didn't answer the door because I was in bed and not expecting anyone and thought it was a canvasser-it wasnt. She'd turned up in the town we all used to live in wanting to go to my house, and my local MP was on the train station and had seen this gaunt, young looking girl and offered help and given a lift to my house. .Sally had told her her mum lived there (knowing fuill well she'd moved out and we'd split up) and after Ididn't answer the door, she went to my Mums around the corner and said she was looking for her Mum. My Mum is much 'harder' than me and said 'Sally, when you were here all you wanted to do was leave' and Sally denied it said she was being controlled. I used to think she was, but now I am not sure, I've seen how awful she can be.

I only learned about this visit afterwards-a social worker took her back to the town she has been living in. She was 18 at the time, 19 now.

My ex has told me to have nothing to do with her she's dangerous and horrible. Sally is implying she's on hard drugs and cant get off them-my ex says this isn't true she's just saying it for attention. Shes said she's living on the streets. It's so odd-a year or so ago she had a job, volunteered and had a pony on loan that I paid for , friends, was in contact with siblings, but she's just not bothered about anything now.

Sally will also send mutual friends and family messages saying she needs money or she's now 'clean' (( I am clueless about whether there's been recent drugs in particular an addiction to them) and wants to be with her Mum. Her Mum has rejected her-I realise this could be a huge part of this. Some time ago, her social worker rang me and asked if Sally was pregnant as she'd heard rumours. I said I didn't know but if she was and the baby was removed please lord give me a thought , I'll have the baby before it's put into care to be passed from pillar to post and repeat the cycle-they said they definitely would. I just hope she isn't ever pregnant-then again as I type this I think maybe if she did fall pregnant it may be a turning point...

She messaged me recently asking to 'borrow' money and I said no, but once she has sorted herself out and wants to stop this behaviour, I will be there for her and she can get in touch.

A few years of this has been hellish-I want so badly to be there for her. I want her living with me, working or studying and safe. I want her to know I love her but at the same time some of the awful, awful things she's done and said and the fact she's a criminal and as my ex says, dangerous, my job involves working for vulnerable people-I am not sure what I want from this post. Anything, even someone replying and saying they sort of understand. I don't know.

I love her, but I am massively confused. I am almost scared of her. Pathetic I realise but the truth.

I want her back with me being happy. It seemed that, when I met her, everything would be okay and then this happens. I don't know what the best thing for me to do, be or say is. I realise she's been through hell but, I've got a fair bit of experience with teens in care due to work, and I haven't known anyone be like this. Thanks for reading.

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HollowTalk · 09/05/2019 20:45

I assume you're male?

In any case, as soon as I read She's threatened to ring my work and tell them I was abusing her then I thought you must have nothing more to do with her.

SoupDragon · 09/05/2019 20:48

I assume you're male?

The OP says she was called "stepmum"

HollowTalk · 09/05/2019 20:49

Oh sorry, and I read it twice, too!

CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 21:01

Hollow no, sorry I should have said I'm (a gay) female. Okay. I just feel I am a fully fledged, privilaged adult and she's a young vulnerable woman? I've never been in care or had that sort of life. I just don't know. Thank you for reading (twice) :)

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HollowTalk · 09/05/2019 21:04
Grin

I made the assumption based on her saying she'd accuse you of sexual assault. Sorry. I wouldn't let myself get into a position where she could make those threats, though. I think you've gone as far as you can with her and the help she needs can't and shouldn't come from the people she threatens.

Thehop · 09/05/2019 21:08

I think, for the sake of your job, you can’t really afford to get too involved. I’m sorry, you sound lovely. Some people just can’t want to be saved.

CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 21:10

To be honest, she said she'd accuse me of all sorts and usually just said it implying that I'd been violent I think. Not that that's any better! Okay. Is that what you'd do if this was your daughter? I maybe don't in the eyes of the law but in my head I have a duty of care. I havent' spoken to anybody about this-to my ex its black and white, but nobody else knows this situation in any depth

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HairyToity · 09/05/2019 21:14

She needs to make the decision to turn her life around first. Once she's made that decision, you have a chance of helping her. Some people get to that point, others don't.

HairyToity · 09/05/2019 21:17

Perhaps tell her that you have not given up on her, she might need to hear that not everyone in her life wants to walk away from her.

CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 21:18

Okay :( thank you. I just wish I knew why she was like this. Is it her background, (very spoilt financially but messy situation) MH, or just being an awful person?

TheHop yes, I know :( although my gut instinct says I'd lose everything I own to make her okay.

Hairy I so know that-I struggle 'cause It's her. Someone I was in a parental role for for a long enough time to become very attached. Beleive it or not I am usually very no-nonsense about this sort of stuff.

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CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 21:22

Okay thank you. The last message I sent to her (in reply to 'Can I borra £20' was something like 'I will not support these idiotic lifestyle choices you've made. You're a bright young woman. When you've decided to stop doing this and live in the real world and I can trust you again, you know where I am'. I guess that was okay? If she does message me again, I will say something like you said.

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HairyToity · 09/05/2019 21:32

Your message sounds perfect to me.

user1493413286 · 09/05/2019 21:37

I think the best thing you can do is keep saying to her that you’re there for her and you want to help her but you can’t give her money and she can’t stay at her home.
I couldn’t see in your why she was removed from her mum at a young age but I’m going to assume there was some kind of neglect or abuse which has caused a lot of trauma for her and this is why she is the way she is now. The impact of that can’t be underestimated and she is a product of that. Parents are supposed to love you unconditionally and she’s never had that.

It sounds like you’re one of the few adults who still wants to help her and at some point she may want to change her behaviour and genuinely need help and someone having faith in her and loving her unconditionally may be the difference between making it and not. Having said that you do need to protect yourself by not having her stay at your home but that doesn’t stop you being there for her. It may take years but it’s hard to see how she can change if no one wants to help her.

AhhhHereItGoes · 09/05/2019 21:49

Why did her Mum lose custody?

Only asking as it may be relevant to how she sees both her parents.

I do feel incredibly sorry for this girl as nobody would choose to be how she is being. At the same time though - you need to protect yourself.

Your message was great. Keep in phone contact but don't lend money nor allow her to physically be in your home.

JuniFora · 09/05/2019 21:58

You sound very kind but I'm confused as to how you don't understand why she is like this. Her mother hadn't seen her since she was five and made no effort to contact her until you came into her life five years ago! Father with mental illness and a mother who obviously provided a home so terrible she had to be removed from it as a very young child and then didn't care to maintain any involvement...

This young woman was never loved. She was neglected in her early years and abandoned. She desires to be loved by a mother who never cared for her. She has never had secure long lasting attachments ... That's what's wrong with her.

We are all products of our environment, when a child is not loved and nurtured from the moment it's born, the brain doesn't develop normally. Our brain is wired to absorb everything up until the age of six, that forms our subconscious beliefs about ourselves and our place in the world for the rest of our lives. It's the foundation a person's life is built on. Like a computer programme.

She needs intensive therapy to overcome that and rewire her belief system. She needs to believe that she is loveable and loved.

CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 21:59

user I'd tell you but I don't know. My ex says it was in and out of hostels,abusive husband, no family support.Sallys much older 29 years old) supports this-says they shouldn't have been removed her mum was doing her best.

And yes you're right about the rest of it

aahhereitgoes oh god believe me I feel sorry for her, so strongly. Good advice, thank you

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CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 22:13

Sorry that should have read much older BROTHER!

Juni that's my gut instinct-my only argument against this is, I've known kids who've had a much lesser privileged past who yes have been messed up, but not as vicious and nasty. Of course everyone's different. I just , I dont know. She landed on her feet in a way and then is like this. I miss her so much. Up until recently I was waking up in the night worrying. I've tried to stop this-what good was it doing...

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Drogosnextwife · 09/05/2019 22:13

Many reasons that people behave like this op, mental health, traumatic childhood, attention seeking.
It's difficult to tell without knowing more about her start in life.
I would be inclined to believe that she is taking drugs, why does her mum think she is lying about it?
It doesn't really sound like she wants to be helped though, but if she is an addict then the addiction runs your life, you can want to change but it won't let you.
I know several addicts and they all say they want to change and they will "get better" for a while, people help them, they start to get back on track, then one day they go AWOL.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 09/05/2019 22:15

JuniFora
Totally unhelpful comment. I see no point in repeating the ops post, albeit with your oh so insightful comments.

CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 22:19

Her mum thinks she is because she has said she knows the signs and there are none, and she has lied about similar things before. She's very bright and 'quick'. I have known addicts too, and yes I don't see any signs with her-of course it doesnt' mean she isn't , but also I understand why her mother would say she isn't.

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Elisheva · 09/05/2019 22:27

Have a look at attachment disorders. Even if that is not the cause of her behaviour it might give you some suggestions as to how to proceed with her.

CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 22:30

juni also, I didn't mention and should have, that her Mum spent hours and thousands trying to find out where she was and trying to get a more lenient court order, to no avail She didn't just forget about her. Sally does know this. She'd even offered to try to go to court to report a historical case of unfair removal of her. It's a mess I understand but the not making effort to be in contact isn't true-she totally was not allowed to.

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CrumbsCrumbsEverywhere · 09/05/2019 22:32

I've read up on attachment disorder. (Mainly because of Sally but had touched on it with work)...But I will again. Thank you.

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JuniFora · 09/05/2019 22:37

Crumbs; that's terrible, so tragic for them both Sad

Enterthewolves · 09/05/2019 22:44

It sounds like she may have Complex PTSD (often linked to early years trauma/poor attachment) and often diagnosed as personality disorder. You may want to have a look at the descriptors. You sound lovely but she sounds like very hard work due to her needs and maintaining boundaries in the way you are is wise.

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