Are Lewis and Peter Capaldi related? And also, what's with all the Italian surnames in Scotland?

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Two completely trivial questions. I just saw the video for Lewis Capaldi's song and Peter Capaldi is in it, so I wondered if they were family and that's why.

Also there are a lot of famous Scots with Italian surnames but completely Scottish backgrounds (as far as I can tell). Was there a huge influx a few generations back or just a few Italian families that were very artsy and so Italian surnames are disproportionally represented among famous Scots. I can think of a load off the top of my head, Nardini, Conti (x2), Iannucci, Nutini, and I'm not even that good with names or knowing about famous people.

On a brighter note, Barga sounds fantastic. I need to go there!

And back to the internment of young Italian men during the war .. DH's uncle Mando was locked up on the Isle of Wight for several years. On his release after Italy changed sides, he joined the British Army and fought until the end of the war. I find that remarkable.

John Galliano is in the wikipedia list, but he's Gibraltarian, not Italian.

Loads of Scots-Italians are from a small town called Barga in Tuscany

sweetkitty almost all of the Scots-Italians I went to school with (Catholic schools in Glasgow Southside) are from Barga. Cocozzas, Moscardinis, Di Mascios, Iafrates, Narduccis, Pias, Andrucettis. I remember being so jealous of their beautiful names.

Oh Valvona & Crolla and also the chippy in Stockbridge whose name I can't remember. Love love love Edinburgh!

Cocozzas, Moscardinis, Di Mascios, Iafrates, Narduccis, Pias, Andrucettis. I remember being so jealous of their beautiful names.

I wonder if British surnames sound gorgeous in any other language?

Jim Capaldi looks to be from Evesham so wasn't a Scottish-Italian.

My great grandparents came over from Italy during WW1. Their village was bombed and people migrated in their thousands. My great great grandfather is listed as a 'Master Confectioner' on his wedding certificate. They settled in the NE of England and set up ice cream parlours. So along with the Valentes, there are Capaldis, Pacittos and Minchellas in this area.

The Italian ice cream shop in my little south lanarkshire villiage was considered the most exciting thing we had in the 50's. As far as I know the family were very welcomed and are still here. My dad loved the juke box and says the Italian owner used to chase all the teens out with a broom at closing time in a sort of Scots Italian tirade. 'You had you icey cream, you geta oot '

Satterthwaite L’Aquila Bianca. Now a Dominos, tragically.

Has anyone been to Castlevecchi’s in Paisley? Used to love it as a wee girl on a Saturday my mum would take me as a treat and was always queued out the door

On the subjects of Poles , there is also a longstanding Polish population in Bedford because of the brickworks.

mockers, I assure you that Sharleen Spiteri is of Italian descent!

Wikipedia does mention Maltese , though , to be fair. Her dad was from Italy, though (presumably of Maltese extraction) : as she did used to go there on her holidays (and can speak it) : it might actually have been somewhere like Sicily.

We are all accustomed to hear about the immigrants who came over on the Windrush, but for some reason, the Italian and other European immigrants are not celebrated in the same way, and their contributions are not spoken about
My little corner of Herts is full of Italians who stayed after WW11 after they were interned here. A lot of them went into nursery businesses growing cucumber and tomatoes.
When i lived in Sydenham we had Rossi Ice cream palour, which was Francis Rossi from Status Quos family.
Also when i went to school in Ponders End Enfield , there were a lot of Italians, a few greeks but most of the greek cypriot families first settled more in North London, like Turnpike Line and Holloway (where i was born)

When I first moved from Glasgow to England, I couldn't get my head round the fact that chippies weren't Italian owned

Me either, but I grew up in Edinburgh. I was at school with DiRollos and Lucas, both families are really well known for their ice cream. We're now back in Glasgow and I know lots of people of Italian descent.

I couldn't get my head round chippies not being Italian either, they ALL were in Edinburgh where I grew up and in Glasgow too. DH's family live on Merseyside, lots of Chinese families run chip shops there. It's really weird, you can order your fish supper with your kung po chicken and special fried rice. And they don't sell chocolate, fizzy juice and headache tablets like every self-respecting Scottish chippy has.

And they don't sell chocolate, fizzy juice and headache tablets like every self-respecting Scottish chippy has

Castelvecchi is Paolo Nutini's family chippy.

Sharlene Spiteri - “my dad's Maltese/Italian and my mum's side is Irish/German”.

From an interview with The Guardian.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/feb/27/sharleen-spiteri-my-family-values

Now I'm longing for Edinburgh and Luca's ice cream (the best in the world).

I never knew Spiteri wasn't an Italian name but it does sound it. My mistake.

Yes, I know about the Maltese thing but I do actually know Sharleen!

Google is your friend.

Is really pisses me off when people ask a question that they are perfectly capable of but way too lazy to find the answer to.

Same here, @peachgreen! I can feel a wee trip to Musselburgh or Largs coming on.

AwkwardSquad it's Franco's I'm thinking of - opposite the Raeburn along from Scran and Scallie. Bloody gorgeous chish and fips 😄

@bruffin, here I am reading and musing over my own family and growing up in Glasgow in the 60s and 70s and then someone mentions Ponders End. It’s where Husband went to school - St Mary’s primary. After that he went to St Ig’s which was in Tottenham then - he’s an old boy so was in school in the 50s and 60s. He’s Irish descent but likewise knew Poles and Italians, or people whose ancestors were. Small world! In fact years ago we visited Enfield - I call it a pilgrimage - and there was a Polish mass going on in the church in Enfield when we were there.

Google is your friend.

But then there wouldn't be interesting threads like this.