Today marks thirty years since the Hillsborough disaster

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Just realised from social media that today marks the 30th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster in which 96 Liverpool fans were killed.

I was seven at the time and this is the first news story I can properly remember. Indeed I know of several people who were there.

How awful that people can go off to a football match, something that's meant to be fun and never come back. I can't get my head around it.

RIP to all who lost their lives.

Pengrin what the hell are you on about?

JFT96

If you want to think about how long the families have waited for justice, this happened before the Berlin Wall came down and Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister

What an eye opening perspective. I was 17 and went to a local night club that night (Fallows for any fellow scousers). Friends birthday and we didn't realise until the evening progressed how serious it had become. At the end of the night the DJ played You'll never walk alone, everybody cleared the dance floor and threw money onto it. It was all anyone could think to do that might help. I still weep now

Just reiterating Naught's post above, and reminding people please not to post anything that could in any way prejudice ongoing or future legal proceedings.

Thank you.

To clarify, when I'm referring to justice I mean the findings of the 2016 second coroners hearing.

I’ve already seen a Chelsea fan on Facebook this morning criticising the Liverpool’s fans conduct recently whilst the Chelsea fans were apparently paragons of virtue. As she’s suffering from cancer I didn’t tell her what a shitty post it was, I just hid it and felt doubly sorry for her.

I was going to post but I can't guarantee that anything I would post wouldn't be somehow prejudicial to the legal proceedings. So I'll just add my voice to express my horror that it has taken 30 years and counting to get anywhere with this. I remember my cousin's wife saying Liverpool is a little city, everyone knows someone who was affected.

I was 13, and remember it vividly. I know someone who survived. Such a sad and awful tragedy, a needless loss of life.
I can honestly say that this disaster shaped the way I look at all authority today. Growing up knowing the press and state were lying about the poor innocent people there and what happened, and watching them fight for so long for justice.This can only leave people with a deep mistrust of state and press. Fair play to the families.

I remember this so clearly. RIP everyone who died. My thoughts are with their friends and families today. Respect to anyone who has campaigned for justice for them all. So sad

Chelsea fans are known for being quite horribly racist MsAdorabelle. Probably the worst in the premier league for it in fact, So yes, like you say hardly paragons of virtue. Though all clubs have their unpleasant fans, just before anyone's jumps on me for saying that...

All clubs have their vile idiots who are genefally out of step with any one else. Football by its very nature very triblistic and can bring out the worst in people.

And some times being part of that tribe is the best and sonetimes it thd worst.

One thing though is when any one club goes through somethimg terriable, its one of the absolute best communities. This fight hasn't just been liverpool fans, its been every club in the country.

thats why my first post was what it was, like having i didnt want to say what i really feel, but knew there needed to be a reminder i appricate that feelings ca run high.

To day though is about the 96 and the others thay had to be there.

JFT96

www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/17575211.what-has-changed-cumbrian-health-chief-compares-hillsborough-disaster-to-grenfell/

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A former Cumbrian health chief who was in the crowd at Hillsborough has compared the way families have been treated since the disaster to the Grenfell Tower tragedy.

My daughter was at university in Liverpool then DD and I were, and still are LFC supporters, husband was a Forest fan. We went over to Liverpool on the day to deliver something (at this point, I have no idea what) to DD. We intended to get home for the kick off. We'd already said that, win loose or draw, neither of us would crow about it.
On our n our way back we got caught in exactly the same road works that the Liverpool fans got caught in (which kind ofcaused the delay and subsequently led to the crush at the LEpping Lane end

When we got home at about 3:05, husband saud, go in and pour drinks, I'll park the cqr,

I came in, put the television on, and to my shame, I walked out. Husband asked why I wasn't watching. I said (again, to my shsnr) that there was fighting
He started watching the TV coverage while I poured drinks.

I will never forget his face, or his words, when he came into the room I was in. "I don't think they are fighting, I think they are dying".

I'm sorry for thevtypos, it's hard to type when you are weeping
Jft96

JFT96

I can’t believe this was 30 years ago. I remember the news coverage vividly. Shocking, horrendous and almost past believing.
My thoughts and prayers are with all those affected. It must feel like forever but also no time at all.

I was eighteen at the time and my then boyfriend was there at Hillsborough, I remember watching it on the TV and thinking the same as the previous poster that they were fighting. I’m sure that’s what the commentators were saying. I was sat completely frozen watching events unfold. His Mum rang me and came around and we both watched it all evening. As there were no mobiles at the time we didn’t hear from him until about 7.00pm. I think it was the longest day of my life waiting to hear from him. In his defence, he said everyone was queuing for the phone box and him and his mates just went to the pub as they were so distraught. I can’t imagine what it was like for the families who’s loved ones didn’t come home.

JFT96

Such an awful tragedy, hopefully justice will be served soon. Heartbreaking reading this thread never mind what the families and friends must've going through xxx

It was my 10th birthday , I was listening to it on the radio with a friend

My dad was there in the forest side, it was something he would never really speak about

JFT96

I was 19 and i can remember my mum desperately trying to ring her relatives to make sure my uncles weren't there

Phones were all engaged for ages

I was not quite 9,bplaying with some kids up the road, dad was watching it live in TV at their house. Can remember stop and staring as it unfolded. Can vividly remember seeing things you can't ever unsee. RIP.

@Radleygirl l can see why that was your longest day ever 😔

I was 16 at the time and like several others watching the match with then boyfriend. He wasn't a particular football fan and not a fan of either club but Iirc it was a David and Goliath type match? Nottingham being David? Apologies if I'm wrong.

At first we thought it was a pitch invasion (not uncommon in the 80's) but as time went on and we could see what was happening especially kids being passed over the fence we realised it was not a hooliganism issue we suspected at the time a fire had broken out (again not unheard of there'd been the Bradford fire just a few years earlier).

I remember even in the first few days after strongly feeling that this was not rioting or similar we had witnessed the beginnings of (the tv studios I think once they realised people were dying madly scrambled to get the cameras away from the pitch and Iirc went to "pundits" and presenters spouting crap about stats!) and my boyfriend and other friends who'd seen the live coverage before it was cut agreed.

Several friends were from Liverpudlian or relatively nearby origins and were either Liverpool or Everton fans and the Everton fans were definitely just as vocal in their defence of the attack on the fans in the press. Telling those of us unfamiliar with the club that it was very much a family club and that what was being said didn't ring true.

It's absolutely appalling that 30 years on they still don't really have justice, hopefully that will be achieved soon.

JFT96

💔 after 30 years, still not the right words

I didn’t know anything about it at the time, I was 13 and playing at a mates house. My mum rang up to say that my older half-brother hadn’t been able to get tickets and wasn’t at Hillsborough. I didn’t know what she was on about until my friend switched the tele on.

He and my brother still go up every year now.

Graphista

It was first reported as a pitch invasion.

I was in the kitchen washing up or cleaning and it was reported as a pitch invasion, as you said not uncommon, I'm not a football fan so I just carried on.

I didn't turn the TV on until another report came through.

If anyone wants to read more Phil Scraton's 'Hillsborough the truth' is worth your time.

When the independent panel report was published I can remember reading some witness statements, not those of the people who survived the crush, I didn't think I could cope, but of the people who lived near the ground.

Lots of people opened their doors to allow fans to use their phones. In virtually every statement they said a Liverpool fan came back the following day with a bag of groceries. I remember how hard it was to shop on a Sunday back then.

I cried at that, people who have been through the worst experience of their lives took time out to return to Sheffield, which is not a short trip, to thank people for the use of a phone.

The panel's report is currently off line, due to the legal proceedings,but well worth a read.