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Husband's Binge Drinking

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greekyogurt · 02/04/2019 18:31

AIBU to want my DH to stop drinking to excess? He always has done, and I have tolerated it to a certain extent. When our DS was three months old he got so drunk at his relatives' house that he nearly trod on him. I was too cowardly to drive the three and a half hours home with a young baby in a small car in the middle of the night, and so I stayed up all night as he vomited and I watched over our baby.
He went to the AA several years ago, at my request, but came back saying that he shouldn't be there as he wasn't drinking a bottle of vodka before breakfast.
Anyway, he went out on Friday night, as he usually does, and drank to excess on an empty stomach, probably between 5-7 pints (not a missive amount by an alcoholic's standards). He then drove home, which I am struggling to forgive him for, woke me up, just being noisy as he was drunk, decided to sleep in our bed, although I have requested that he sleep on the sofa bed if he is very drunk. I then woke up to a sharp stab in the back (unintentional), just because he was so drunk and flailing around in the bed. I asked him, in no uncertain terms, to sleep on the sofa and although he did leave to sleep on the sofa, his parting shot was to tell me to 'Fuck off'- not the first time he has told me to do that. I have a strong inclination to do just that, but I have two teenage children to consider. There have been numerous incidences like this and I am so tired of it all. I feel as if I have to parent him and that we don't have a relationship. I can't bear to sleep with him and I think the last time we kissed on the lips was over five years ago. I don't want to split the family up, but he readily admits that when it comes to drinking, he doesn't have an 'off button'.
He is hard working, but has had numerous jobs and careers, so things have always been tricky financially, and I have always had to work several jobs, study, keep things together on the home front etc. He is also very popular and outgoing and means well. We get on fine when he isn't drinking.

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HopeClearwater · 02/04/2019 18:56

Well, do you want to stay with this alcoholic or don’t you?

Yousignup · 02/04/2019 19:03

Oh God OP, my STBEH is this. A lovely nice bloke when sober, but an embarassing, incontinent, unreasonable nasty spiteful drunk. Refuses to admit he's an alcoholic for the exact same reason, as he doesn't put vodka on his cornflakes.
I am afraid it doesn't get better.
I gave him countless chances, countless. Then one day he said something so ugly and abusive that I made him leave.
The children and I (he was their SF) are calm and happy now.
I just couldn't live like that. Do you really want to?

Palominoo · 02/04/2019 19:07

Hrs not much of a catch anymore is he?

A partner should bring joy and happiness into your life and he isn't.

He doesn't respect himself let alone you or your children.

He continues to behave like an irresponsible singleton.

He won't accept that his behaviour has an impact on his family.

He's an albatross around your neck. Set him adrift as you deserve much better.

Hollowvictory · 02/04/2019 19:09

Time to leave him. He doesn't make you happy. Set yourself free.

Parky04 · 02/04/2019 19:12

I would leave on the basis that he drink drives. Absolutely disgusting.

betheu · 02/04/2019 19:18

All of the other fuckery aside, I would also leave him purely for the fact that he is a drink driver.

You know the answer, OP.

JaneEyre07 · 02/04/2019 19:22

He's the one ruining your family, not you.

There is not one good reason to stay so don't even try to invent one.

And don't think your kids will thank you for doing so either. My friend stayed for 15 years in a relationship like yours, "for the kids". They won't have anything to do with her or their father and blame her just as much as him for their childhood.

exculpatrix · 02/04/2019 19:27

Take the Mary Kondo approach to this booze hound - does he spark joy? If not, thank him for his service and let him go.

HundredMilesAnHour · 02/04/2019 19:32

All of the other fuckery aside, I would also leave him purely for the fact that he is a drink driver.

This. Drink driving would be a deal breaker for me.

CrotchetyQuaver · 02/04/2019 19:39

YADNBU - he's in denial. I'd go and I suspect your DC will be relieved when you do. That's no way to live.

Bluetrews25 · 02/04/2019 19:46

You have lived through this for over 10 years?
Enough is enough, your DCs do not want to live like this, I know without having to ask them. They might wish you had left ages ago.
What's worse than living with an alcoholic that prioritises drink over everything else for 10 years?
Living with them for 10 years and one day.
Come on.You know what you need to do.
Or are you just going to wait until he dies very very messily right in front of your DCs?
Google oesophageal varices, alcoholic liver disease, korsakoff's dementia. That'll do for starters.
Sorry, I've watched this, too many times.
Be strong, OP. It's time. There are many agencies who can help you.

Aquamarine1029 · 02/04/2019 19:50

Your marriage has been over for years. Why are you torturing yourself by continuing to stay? You also need to think of the horrible example he is setting for your children. It's time to get out.

Se7en11 · 02/04/2019 19:51

have you spoken to Al Anon? they are there to listen and to help those who, like you, are suffering whilst their loved ones are drinking. Reach out to them OP.

Gertie75 · 02/04/2019 20:57

Do yourself and your kids a favour and kick him out, he's an alcoholic.

You all deserve much more and you'll never get it from him.

JK2012 · 02/04/2019 21:08

Oh I really feel for you. It’s so hard when a man is amazing when sober but a complete t*t whilst drinking. I’ve been there in the past. My ex was a binge drinker who used to drink Thursday night, all day/evening Friday until they stopped serving him, to drink all day Saturday again To the evening when the pub refused to sell him anymore to go into work on a Sunday hungover. He always said he didn’t have a drink problem as he didn’t drink every day but you really don’t need to drink every day to have a problem. There are different types of alcoholism and binge drinking is a massive problem. He would also spend a couple hundred pound often more on drink every week. Whilst we were together I’d dread the weekends (his weekend started Thursday night) and I would always be on edge. He was never physically abusive but emotionally abusive plus I wasn’t allowed to go out with friends as he was awfully jealous - Probably knew deep down I deserved someone better. We had a child together, but I decided to do it on my own and it was so much better for myself and DS. He always put his friends before myself and DS. The thing is most of his friends were only interested when he was out drinking, would buy them drinks and give them cigarettes. The friends didn’t give a s*t when he was sober.

It’s hard to break away but if you’re truly unhappy you cannot stay with someone for the family. I completely get why you feel this way, but your happiness is so important. It’s better for children to have 2 happy single parents than be unhappy whilst together surely?

greekyogurt · 02/04/2019 21:14

Thanks for all the responses. I did speak to Al Anon today and am going to go to one of their meetings. I think the main problem is, that there are many times when he doesn't drink and he can sometimes just have a couple of beers and a few glasses of wine. I don't really know if he is a 'real' alcoholic- whatever that is. He doesn't lie around lazing in bed with a hangover, in fact when he has had a heavy night, I think he feels guilty as he always gets up the next day and is productive around the house. It was really horrible though, when my older DC had to parent him and tell him off for drink driving. All the rows that we have are about his drinking and we separated for a while when the DCs were younger. I will keep thinking about it. It hasn't been ten years, it has been twenty and I think there is more than a hint of co-dependency as I have been a regular drinker, but not binge drinker. The problem is I don't want to drink every night anymore, as I feel is is a waste of my life. It seems as if this was the only thing keeping us together. It is all very sad.

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Oblomov19 · 02/04/2019 21:31

DDriving is Shock
How often does he drink? He went out Friday, you said in your op. How often does he drink each week/ month?

Oblomov19 · 02/04/2019 21:34

You drank every night too? But now don't want to? Does he still drink every night? As you too once did, but no longer do?

TapasForTwo · 02/04/2019 21:41

"probably between 5-7 pints (not a missive amount by an alcoholic's standards). He then drove home,"

You lost me at this ^^
Next time he drives to the pub you ring the police. You owe it to society to get this arsehole off the road.

Drum2018 · 02/04/2019 22:29

Damn right you have to consider the teenagers - and get the hell away from him. He is not an example of fatherhood you need to have around your kids. I'm sure they have already lost all respect for him so there is absolutely no reason to stay for their sakes. He is an alcoholic - functioning maybe, but an alcoholic all the same. He is a disgusting individual to drink and drive. I would not want to be with someone who would purposely put other people's lives in danger just because he is desperate for a drink. Put yourself and your kids first.

TapasForTwo · 02/04/2019 22:33

SIL's husband is an alcoholic. Her children hate their father.

greekyogurt · 03/04/2019 09:06

Oblomov19, he drinks most nights and doesn't drink drive usually. I used to have a beer or glass of wine most nights, sometimes two. He drinks more, and then stays up drinking more, and more. I have tried over the years to help him stop drinking, he even did dry January about seven years ago, but he seems to have an unhealthy relationship with booze, and I felt that if I carried on drinking with him, even in small amounts, that it would start to affect me too. My DCs do like him; he is fun and very likeable, but I am worried about the behaviour he is modelling. Unfortunately, we live in a village where drinking to excess is not too unusual and there are one or two people, who would not think twice about getting behind the wheel, after a few drinks to drive through a deserted village at night. Not that I am condoning this behaviour, far from it.

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Lllot5 · 03/04/2019 12:35

Was going to comment but I have nothing to ad to JK2012 excellent post. It’s not going to improve.

Eatmycheese · 03/04/2019 12:44

Don’t waste any more of your life on this selfish person.
Show your children how a responsible parent who puts them and their future first behaves and leave him.

To be honest, when he came home after 7 pints and had driven I would have called the police there and then. You cannot turn a blind eye to this he could kill someone and it might not be just himself.

His drinking is not your fault, not your responsibility but overlooking the drink driving and trying to tell yourself his remorseful next day contrition doesn’t make him an alcoholic is dragging you into enabling this awful mess.

I think you know what you need to do.
You deserve to be happy

greekyogurt · 03/04/2019 13:24

I have had extra time today to think about this problem and have sent my husband this email. Thank you for all your posts; it has been really helpful to air this. Here is the email I have just sent him.

I have been doing a lot of thinking about us, our relationship with alcohol, and your abuse of alcohol, so rather than trying to talk to you-again- I have decided to write you this email.

I think that we have developed a co-dependent relationship based on alcohol. I don’t want to drink and I don’t think that my use of alcohol in the past has been healthy, as although I don’t binge drink, I do use a glass, or a couple of glasses a few times a week to unwind and de-stress. This is not healthy, and I often feel ashamed when I know that I have had a couple of large glasses of wine and the evening is blurry. I also don’t think that it is good example for our boys, so I am going to carry on not drinking alcohol for 100 days and then see how I feel. I want to feel life and not block it out, I don’t want to wake up feeling groggy. I want to wake up, bounce out of bed and go to a yoga class or go for a run. I want to feel more in control of my very stressful job. I want to be healthy, not living a sub-par life, where I dull my senses because I am so unhappy.

I have really struggled this week to understand why you went out on Friday, binge drank and then drove home. I can’t forgive the driving home and I am very concerned about your abuse of alcohol and the strain it places on our relationship, as well as the fact that alcohol is a luxury item and as we have so much debt, should we really be drinking anyway?

I posted an accurate description of your actions on a website (anonymously). Unsurprisingly, the response was not positive towards you, even thought I tempered the description of your actions with your many positive qualities. I have also spoken to a friend, as I am worried about our relationship and how it is affecting not only us, but our two vulnerable and impressionable teenage boys.

Alcohol has always been the main source of arguments in our marriage and I am tired of it; I feel as if I have to parent you when you go out. I don’t like going out with you for the simple reason that I don’t like watching you get drunk and turn into what I can only describe as an absolute prat. I also think you are becoming more verbally abusive towards me, which is not a good sign. I can understand why you don’t like me very much, as our sex-life is non-existent and we don’t have a warm and loving relationship. We do, however, get on fine and manage finances, parenting and house stuff pretty well, so we might have a marriage to save. The only question we have to ask ourselves is do we want to be married? We will always need to parent and then grandparent, so we do need to be sensible about this.

I have been researching how to get a divorce as well, and it doesn’t have to be expensive and we can be the ones who move out and then then back into the family home on a rota system, rather than the kids moving, as is the traditional way. That way we can stabilize our finances and try to keep things stable for our boys.

We have a lot of bad history with drinking incidences and financial instability and I think there is a lot that needs to be aired, looked at objectively and then hopefully put away for good. I suggest that we start Relate counselling. We have to pay for the first session £67.00, and then we might be able to get a bursary. Unlike the last and only time we went, it would be great if you did not treat it like a job interview and were totally honest.

I think as alcohol seems to be the main problem with our marriage, it might be an idea if you would consider giving it up for 100 days. I am going to start attending a support group for people who have a person in their life with an alcohol problem, and I hope this will give me some perspective. I am not sure if I am being unreasonable, but when I said that you had gone to AA, but come back saying that you shouldn’t be there as you weren’t putting vodka on your cornflakes, she said that this was a common response in a functioning alcoholic or alcohol abuser. You have always said that you don’t seem to have an ‘off button’ and I have accepted this as okay, but it’s not okay. Not having an ‘off button’ is a sign of an alcoholic. You have also cited your grandmother as the reason that you drink, as she was an alcoholic and so it must have been passed down to you. You may have a genetic predilection for alcohol, but you haven’t tried to do anything about it, unless I have ‘nagged’ you to.

I am tired and sad, that it has come to this, and I would like to avoid any drama: there has been enough shouting and railing and upheaval in our marriage to last a life-time. I hope you don’t feel as if I have painted you as the villain in this piece. As you are very fond of saying it is 50-50 in a marriage and I am sure that you are partially acting this way because I can’t seem to give you what you need. I have often wondered, if you would not be better off with someone else, someone more ‘fun’.

I think we both need to think very carefully as to why we are together and whether those reasons are able to sustain a long, healthy and happy marriage. We have been together now for twenty three years and married for nearly twenty, but there seems little point in just carrying on it is not working for either of us. Why don’t we try the 100 days sober and then, if possible, the year sober and that might give us the answer?

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