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Shamima Begum has her citizenship revoked

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KenAdams · 19/02/2019 18:48

How can this happen? I thought they aren't allowed to leave a person stateless? Not that I'm disagreeing, I'm just wondering how they managed it.

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SemperIdem · 19/02/2019 19:32

I can’t see how this will stand.

She surely cannot have the only one, of all the radicalised youths who went to Syria to hold dual nationality. It seems extremely unlikely. Yet 300 have returned and only 40 have faced charges.

I don’t want to suggest that the govn is trying to distract to general public from a rather more pressing issue with all this palaver surrounding Shamima Begum, but y’know...if the cap fits.

Budsbegginingspringinsight · 19/02/2019 19:32

I'm not convinced of her being radicalised... not when media full of images of henoius brutality everywhere.

Hardly the promised uplands.... the ground work was already laid probably from within the family.

Iloveacurry · 19/02/2019 19:33

Good.

Imissgmichael · 19/02/2019 19:33

Mistrigri loss of UK citizenship may be the least of her worries. Syria will eventually run war crime courts, or they may just hand her over to Iraq in the meantime.

I’ll save my sympathy for the victims of the vile cult she joined.

Courchevel · 19/02/2019 19:34

When the reporter talks about the terrorist attack on the Manchester arena she maintains the same smug look and says it's like the attacks in Syria.
I've just left the RAF- this sort of rhetoric makes me incredibly angry.
Professional men and women spend hours sometimes days pouring over just one target. Which would have been carefully selected and put through a military lawyer.
The UK does not bomb women and children in Syria.

Mistigri · 19/02/2019 19:34

leave them stranded in whichever country they choose to run off to.

She's an illegal immigrant in Syria. It'd be hilarious if other countries started removing citizenship from illegal immigrants in the U.K. and refusing to take them back.

Frouby · 19/02/2019 19:34

I know a few teenagers. They all (including a strapping lad of 15) cried at the Manchester bombings. And cried a few times at the news and at the memorial service/concert Manchester held.

Being 15 doesn't remove moral responsibility. How many people condemn utterly Jamie Bulgers murderers? Just about everyone I know.

Being 15 is old enough to understand hatred and murder and how killing innocent people is wrong. Making mistakes at 15 is shoplifting, unprotected sex, being silly at school. Those involved in murder deserve to suffer the consequences.

I would suspect that given the worldwide publicity of this case that due diligence has been done. And anything was signed off by TM who should certainly be well versed in international law.

starzig · 19/02/2019 19:35

Mistigri. By the very fact she went, she is guilty of treason. This is a mandatory life sentence.

EdWinchester · 19/02/2019 19:36

I have zero sympathy for this vile woman.

surferjet · 19/02/2019 19:36

She’s a traitor.
She left the UK to join the enemy.

Hope she gets all she deserves.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2019 19:36

Basically just a PR move by the government. It's win-win for them - either she doesn't appeal, so it stands; she does and loses, so it stands; or she does and wins, and the government get to blame the judges and use it as further "proof" that we should leave ECHR. No one's any safer or better off but hey, Javid gets a boost to his leadership chances with the Tory membership

^^ This

Fluffycloudland77 · 19/02/2019 19:36

Good. Some common sense at last.

Saylav · 19/02/2019 19:36

I would suspect that given the worldwide publicity of this case that due diligence has been done. And anything was signed off by TM who should certainly be well versed in international law.

This.

But I'll probably be branded a thicko and that it's all just for show.

sanityisamyth · 19/02/2019 19:37

Good.

MillytantForceit · 19/02/2019 19:37

Very Much a Sajid For PM move, almost as if he's expecting a vacancy soon.

Saucery · 19/02/2019 19:38

It will help create her as a martyr. She does not deserve that honour.

surferjet · 19/02/2019 19:38

I’d vote for him!

PanamaPattie · 19/02/2019 19:38

Que sera sera.

Jb291 · 19/02/2019 19:38

And I didn't think it would be long before some posters came along and started whinging about "racists and thickos". For the record I am neither of those things. I'm a degree educated law abiding British citizen who thinks that people like her made their bed and now must be forced to suffer the consequences of her actions. Exile and death in a godforsaken refugee camp in a third world country sounds about right. Let her die there and be forgotten, she deserves absolutely no sympathy and no forgiveness from any of us. Let this stand as a message to others like her that we won't hesitate to strip citizenship from them.
for once, our government has shown some backbone and done the right thing and refused to be walked all over by Islamic extremists. Decent British citizens do not want her or her terrorist associates here. She can die there and rot and nobody here should feel anything other than satisfaction that another vile terrorist has died and can't harm anyone ever again.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 19/02/2019 19:38

This government don’t have a very good track record on due diligence.

londonrach · 19/02/2019 19:38

Best news ive heard today. Seriously mn would you want this woman need your children. Shes very dangerous.

Courchevel · 19/02/2019 19:39

basically just a PR move by the government. It's win-win for them - either she doesn't appeal, so it stands; she does and loses, so it stands; or she does and wins, and the government get to blame the judges and use it as further "proof" that we should leave ECHR. No one's any safer or better off but hey, Javid gets a boost to his leadership chances with the Tory membership
But it sets a precedent... want to join forces with an enemy of our country? Fine, but we wont have you back any more. We've been too soft for too long (and have been taken advantage of)

WeAreGerbil · 19/02/2019 19:39

She could very well consider that the biggest threat to her was likely to be from ISIS locally and be trying not to say anything that's going to put her in immediate danger. It may not be that but I think it needs to be included as a possibility. And for those saying that 19 is an adult, according to neuroscience research our full reasoning capabilities in our pre frontal cortex don't come online until mid 20s.

pusspuss9 · 19/02/2019 19:39

@ mistigri So? Has she been prosecuted and convicted in a court of law

we all know there is very little chance of getting enough proof of what she did because we weren't there!! That is their get out of jail card and they'll all get off if we wait for enough for black and white proof, but you knew that didn't you!

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